A few individuals have asked me via E-mail as to why I have posted various topics here...Allow me to explain the reason... ;)

Two weeks ago I applied to a TV station here in Tulsa...My interview lasted 2 and half hours and they wanted me to stay and watch how the 5PM News was executed, but I had to go pick up my two-year-old cousin from daycare. I let them know this isn't a regular occurance but because my cousin's truck was disabled that I was doing a favor. They didn't seem to mind at all...I haven't heard from them since... :huh:

I was wondering why? Before I left, the chief engineer said he was going to check my references...He never did...But I believe he did call my previous employers...I believe ONE of them is passing a 'bad' rap on me...And it is a major MEGA-Corporation...All a previous employer is supposed to be ALLOWED to do is tell a potential employer how much work you missed and why...Well after the incident where I was viciously stalked, The COMPANY put me on three weeks unpaid medical leave and sent me to a mental health clinic...Reason goes to show..."Yes, he missed 3 weeks because we sent him to a mental health clinic"...They do not have to say WHY!...That alone will keep you out of most jobs... :angry:

I was the victim of this stalker...Now THIS Company is 'victimizing' me again after the fact by keeping me out of work...I am fighting for my life here...I have had four professional interviews in 2007...ALL of them seemed willing to hire me off the top...then disappeared! Am I Paranoid? You are d@mned right I am! What should I be? :?:

So I decided to FIGHT back! And I will EXPOSE this manager and this 'stalker' for WHO they really are! All THEY had to do was let me work and life would have gone on...But THIS COMPANY chooses otherwise...They are leaving me NO choice, but to take the actions I am taking... :mad:

Over the BU$H years, there are MANY who want Papabear to go down because I expose their 'dirty' tricks...and there is ONE individual in San Antonio that DOESN'T want HIS dirty tricks exposed to the light...Well I am going to go down swinging this time my friends, and I am going to keep trying to tread water, because I am certain after November of THIS year...WE WILL BE FREE! I GUAR-ON-TEE IT! ;)

don't worry papa, we are all behind you. I am not so powerful myself, but maybe the powerful who visit here can help you! It's time you were helped by your collegues instead of hurt by your enemies. you need somebody powerful to call KJRH and endorse you. I may be conservative, but I do care. nobody on my side who asked for help would be abandoned or turned down for help.

It doesn't surprise me that a conservative is helping you stay afloat right now. liberals talk up a good game but when it comes to helping they fall flat on their faces.

EXCUSE ME.............When I've needed a bit of help in my life as we all do at times, CONSERVATIVES gave me nothing but GRIEF. They talked down to me, even this Conservative republican pastor of a local church. He said horrible things to me, it's been almost ten years and it's still hurts. He was a cold-hearted uncaring, arrogant Bush loving bastard. And he's not the only one. Members of that lousy church have treated me the same way and guess what?????????????????? They are all conservatives. :angry: :angry: :angry:

So don't be so quick to put down liberals, they are the ones where I have gotten a bit of help and they've done it with alot less than these greedy nose in the air hypocrite bible-thumping conservatives. :angry: :angry: :angry:

Liberal, Conservative,...

What do these labels even mean now in 2008? Maybe it is time to rethink the meaning of those words. To me I believe in progress, liberty, and justice for all; so I think of myself as a proud, patriotic liberal.

As far as friends go, I won't put down friends who think of themselves as conservative and I won't put down friends who think of themselves as liberal. When it comes to politicians and public figures, that's still another story.

I'm still angry at Bush, Cheney, Rove, Hannity, Limbaugh and that whole gang of neo-cons whose policies have so played upon people's fears and anger and resulted in untold division and destruction and debt. Even so, I am thinking I need to not let that anger keep me from imagining a way the country can experience some healing and a positive future. That is part of the appeal of Obama and Huckabee too. Young people probably are tired of baby boomers continuing to re-fight the cultural wars of 1968. :blink: :Y:

AGMIL, I don't think true is actually trying to be offensive. In private conversations with him, I told him if it wasn't for a conservative with finances then I would be living in 'cardboard city'...What Huckabee said was right...the Days Of Horizontal Politics are coming to and end thanx to the Right Wing Attack Machine and Karl Rove...That is what caused the Division...RU$H, Hannity, Beck and their Left as the 'scapegoats' and Right as the 'leaders' of socalled family values...Huckabee said we need Vertical Politics...Leaders that lift everybody UP instead of splitting them into two separate warring camps...We didn't do it AGMIL...but true told me neither did they really...It was the NEOCONS that infiltrated the GOP...It was the Noise Machine and the Media that did that to us! :!:


Many were misguided, but what true is saying...is that with ALL of my personal problems it is kind of 'ironic' that I am being helped by a conservative right now. I told him that it's simple...most of my Liberal friends do not know where I even am right now much less be able to help... :Y:

You are partially correct papabear. But I do mean what I say when I voice an opinion that Liberals are 'bad' when it comes to supporting each other on a daily basis.

I use you as an example. If you had these problems on a conservative board then you would have people rushing to aid you. One thing about my side is we tend to stick together. When one gets affected then we are all affected.

Somebody should give Bob Iger a phone call and tell him that you are being used and abused by people in HIS association, that is keeping you out of work and then let it roll downhill to Disney World. Believe me, all it takes is ONE phone call from somebody with power and all your problems will be over.

Or a lot of E-mails to people who are causing this problem. Meg Crofton runs Walt Disney World. Maybe somebody should tell her that you are being victimized after the fact.

And it's NOT ironic that a conservative would help you right now. A lot of us are trying just as hard to heal the division caused by George Bush and Karl Rove. Think about that!

true, I wouldn't KNOW what to tell anyone that actually WANTED to help me as of right now! I am totally trapped by this series of events...I just want them to STOP doing what they ARE doing when it comes to employers calling them pertaining to me...But they won't so I guess I am going to have to run litigation up the flagpole here...But I 'QUIT' there and I was not fired...they put me on re-hire status, so why keep me out of a job? Nothing makes sense save for the fact that a few individuals there want some controlling aspect over my life and they are NOT going to get it! :mad:

By the way, I am NOT the one insinuating it is a specific Company, because I don't KNOW that! :read:

I DO have suspicions... <_<

It's more than suspicions, papabear. It's the truth. When an employer is all about hiring you and then you don't hear anything for three weeks then there is something wrong. You tell me you have lost chances at 4 technical jobs in the last 9 months. That smells fishy to me.

As I said, somebody needs to make a phone call or E-mail the proper channels and get this situation cleaned up. There is no reason why ANY company should be putting you out of a job.

But when a conservative like me tries to befriend you then I get a litany of complaints from 'socalled' Liberals who cannot seem to help you at all with anything for that matter.

But pardon me for pointing that one out! ;)

Have any of your Liberal friends helped you out yet? I don't think so.

papa, you told me that you have been foundering for almost 8 years. I think that some of your friends here should help stop that foundering. I am going to continue to help you, but I think you should be getting more help from Democrats as well. If somebody is keeping you out of work then you need to get help zeroing in on who that somebody is and eliminating them from the equation.

You are not the only one I have seen taking hits here. A few others have been victimized too!

All I am saying is Liberals need a better support network than they have. If one conservative I know has a problem then 5 more are assigned to help out.

I don't know what part of the country you live in, but the conservatives I've met wouldn't give you a cup of water if were dying of thirst and a hot day. And it doesn't surprise me that a conservative will help another conservative. :bad:

I won't go into what happened, but recently something bad did, a few Liberal, Bush hating friends helped me. A bible-thumping conservative said to me, "there's nothing I can do about it." In other words, he was saying to me, I don't give a f..... about your situatin. :angry:

I will put an end to this, true, the problem is I have not yet acted ON my problems, much less ask anyone else for help. Conservatives claim we are the "Nanny Staters" while they all coddle themselves. We Democrats help those who initiate action themselves by asking or doing. Also,I don't expect people on my side to butt into my business without my asking them for help. We Democrats reserve a right to 'privacy'. :Y:

Unless I initiate actions to help myself then how can I tell others what to do without a 'plan'? That's like stumbling into a strange room in the 'dark' and hoping you don't trip over the furniture. :!:

So what I am saying is this in a religious accord..."The Lord helps those who help themselves"...So if you don't have a positive outlook on the future and life on this planet then you truly are in trouble... :o

Besides I DO have a plan I am working on myself...and my ingenuity should prove me made of better metal than even I believe myself... ;)

WE SHALL SEE!

Glad to hear you have a job, as you addressed in your recent E-mail. Now you are at square one to getting back into the game.

My previous posts are relating to the fact that Liberal Democrats pride themselves on helping people and putting people first, and the government should be responsible for that aspect. I disagree. The government already does a 'lousy' job at just about everything! National Healthcare in the government's hands? There's a nightmare for you! They can't balance a budget now!

Until Liberal Democrats PROVE to me that today's government is actually efficient enough to care for my health then I don't go for it! My examples are Social Security and Medicare. What a mess!

Also papa, you said you would not get help without a plan. THAT proves to me that Liberals and Conservatives are exactly the same in that respect. In America it is instilled in ALL citizens whether on the Right or the Left that YOU must initiate actions to get results in anything you do!

That isn't the same as the Soviet Union was years ago. In the USSR they picked your job for you, educated you their way(true indocrination), provided you your living space along with food & healthcare. But NONE of it was your choice! It was the government bureaucracy's choice whether you liked it or not! Is that what you want?

Papa, fixing your life is the same as fixing this nation's woes along with everybody else's problems. It's like a jigsaw puzzle, even if we all have a piece of that puzzle that can help you, you still have to show us what the original picture looked like or we are lost. That's Liberal or Conservative because your ideology doesn't make you clairvoyant enough to put pieces where you think that they belong. Also you may be completely wrong as to where pieces may go because you are 'human' first!

So you may also want to go against who is bringing you down, and that in itself is always an option. But concentrate on lifting yourself up first, because the higher you go makes it that much harder for your opposition to reach you!

Lifting yourself up? would that be like "go back to school, improve your job skills, make yourself more marketable, etc?"

CRAP, CRAP, CRAP!

I did that! I did that to the top ten percent of ALL graduate students in this nation!

I can't even get an interview!

I am trying my best. Oh I got Two interviews so far and both of them were about to hire me when----well the last letter from Workforce Development---(the people in TN charged as an agency with helping people obtain work), Well the letter said---"Due to budget rescission (look it up, I thought they mispelled recession?)---Anyway due to budget, we will not be hiring.

I would like to blame my age, I would like to blame my appearance (need dental work, and need a job for money to get that), I would love to blame all of my faults,etc. BUT IF THEY WILL NOT EVEN BRING YOU IN FOR AN INTERVIEW????

Then it can't even be me in any manner can it???

NO Sir! I have ranted, railed to the father of my precious Grandson to get a college degree which he will now have in two semesters, ranting telling him how it will change his life forever for the better, etc----the entire crap line!

What kind of role model, what kind of example do ya think I am when he and folks that know me also know I am a top student, graduate, smart person even if it does sound conceited!

We are slowly sinking into the lower underclass again due to me not bringing in money!

I must beg a truck to let me drive it by summer, I must. When I do that, there is no way to obtain a degree job then! What does that say to my son, to my grandson about how a college degree will pay off for a lower class person?

I will tell you what the head of the Sociology Dept tried to tell me! Marry rich! It is the only way. He explained in a nice way trying to get me to get real about my grandsons chances---well he said ALL of his friends out of 100 became PhD's! They all came from the correct familys, etc. BUT that one became a Multi-Millionaire, even more blessed than he and his friends who make $150,000 a year. His friend happened to learn to speak Japanese. He happened to hook up with Nissan when it came to TN and he happend to have the daughter of Nissan fall in love with him and he married and became a millionaire!

Moral of the story I failed to see, either marry up, way up; or at best all you will do is replace a blue collar wage with a white collar wage of the same amount!

I should tell my grandson to use his youth,, his sexy, his body while he has it to obtain whatever a rich person will give him for it in exchange for station in life! That is the true American way!

YOU MUST KNOW SOMEONE! Now that comes easy when you grow up in a family from the correct side of the tracks, etc. They have uncles, Aunts, neighbors who connect them and their children automatically to the better parts of life!

You don't get a degree job by being the top ten in class, you get it through the fraternity Brothers, the neighbors who know your dad or uncle, but you do not earn it by effort!

It scares me for my grandson! I bought the line of crap that education would make a difference. All it did was educated me how far down the ladder of life I and my children were born, ask Warren Buffet! when he gave 30 billion to Gates for charity he lamented that for 25 years he tried to negate poverty and he never found a way to overcome the family a child was born into!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PISSED :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

wHY SHOULDN'T i BE?

Oh yeah, I have an addition to the wisdom, "Know Someone"

It is know someone with good timing! It does no good to know Al Gore when he is Prof Gore and the world calls him a a loser. It does no good to be in the book that flopped just before the book that won an Oscar. It does no good to have Al Gore on your resume in a state that despises Liberals now at this point in this timing. He just came out for Gay marriage. No Surprise! His staff ARE THE FINEST GAY PEOPLE I HAVE EVER KNOWN AND IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO MARRY, ETC! But very few in this state, even Democrats will agree with he and I on this issue?

You see it is just OK to be Gay too, if you are born from the correct famliy!

Last, some say---well why doesn't Gore get you a job????

Because he is no fraking employment agency!

I asked him to call and lobby for me once to the first job! He WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO DO SO FOR ME! GRACIOUS yA HEAR!!!! Nothing but a true friend!

I did not get the job! I realized they just wanted to see if they could get a call from a celebrity??!!!

I WILL NEVER ASK HIM AGAIN! I WILL NEVER CAUSE THAT KIND OF EMABARRASSMENT AGAIN TO SOMEONE THAT GRACIOUS!

KNow someone and make it with good timing, but don't give me that pull yourself up by your bootstraps conservative crap line.

Someone has to hand you the strap first to pull yourself up by!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wtf:

Gore knows this! Old school Democrats used to be about this very issue!

Now they are just another bunch of rich elites!

Rod,

I was afraid that would happen if you dropped your last job. I KNOW it probably 'stunk', but I still didn't want you to drop it! :!:

Anyway, I am taking a job that I probably won't like mainly because a Mega-Corporation that says they are family oriented are inadvertantly 'bad rapping' me!

But Al Gore can't help us by himself alone...we all need to help...if you think that you are being held back from employment then let me know in private...Rod...I MUST help provide you that bootstrap you need to get lifted up...me and anyone else that can help around here...we may all be busy, but NONE of us are soooo busy that we cannot help a collegue in need! It's not just knowing someone important like Al Gore...it's also ALL of us working together in order to make sure things are right for every member!...We NEED to stick together, especially THIS year! That is what true was kvetching about before...when he gets into trouble then his Republican peers gear up into action and help him! They may be nasty...they may like WAR...but they are GOOD at helping each other...THAT is what true 'fascism' is all about I guess...THEY would NEVER help a Democrat, but by God let one of their own 'founder' and they rush to aid them!

But THAT is the problem as well...The conservatives made this BIG RIFT over the last 8 years...or should I say the NEO-conservatives did it using propaganda and a bunch of BIG MOUTH PROFITEERS on the RADIO! When we are UNITED and we HELP each other regardless of 'ideology' then THAT is what makes us GREAT! I learned THAT from a conservative businessman here in Tulsa who is helping me regardless of my political affiliations or ideology! He....like me...is tired of the Liberal-Conservative split caused by idiots like Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Savage...ALL of them!...THEY say they WANT to win this WAR on Terrorism and then turn around and alienate HALF of the people in this nation because they MAY be Liberal thinkers..."A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND!"...but while this Right Wing Echo Chamber continues to SPLIT this nation by ideology and party then WE WILL DO NOTHING BUT LOSE! :bad:

Blue, let me say this...I was 'bombed' out of four technical jobs this year, and I suspect it's because I am a Democrat that speaks out against BU$H and dissents against HIS policies! But HE is on his WAY OUT! And soon he won't have the power left to ruin our lives...but WE NEED A DEMOCRAT IN BECAUSE JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED! If BU$H and Cheney along with that Rogue's Gallery THEY call an Administration THINKS they are just going to GET AWAY with what they DID to us for the last 8 YEARS then they are sorely mistaken...as I said before, if we CANNOT IMPEACH THEM NOW...then we WILL get them AFTER they LEAVE office! A crime is a crime, and it doesn't go away just because YOU leave political office! I guarantee you that EVERYTHING that THEY did will be coming BACK to bite them on the BUTT!

I'll end like I started...blue, if there is anything I can do then let me know...I may not have money, but I DO have 'blood, sweat, and tears' and I can provide moral support! ;)

Also, do not worry because AL KNOWS you are there! He may not be an employment agency, but HE knows what to do...You'll see! As I sit here and speak, the Al Gore Army is busy working to help us! Al is out there and is already working for you as well! ;)

We WILL get through this...the mechanisms are already in place and running efficiently! CONFIDENCE IS HIGH! I REPEAT! CONFIDENCE IS INDEED HIGH! ;)

Also, don't get too mad at trueconservative...he's out there spying for us...he comes here because he KNOWS that BU$H & the Neocons have usurped the GOP...and he told me that many just like him want THEIR OLD PARTY BACK! A party that works WITH DEMOCRATS instead of AGAINST US!

Well Papa, Moral support is A number one with me. I don't expect anyone here can actually help me get a job. I have been "helped" by some good people, but to no avail.

I hope I made it clear that Prof Gore has been OUTSTANDING TO US as a family! :good: It is NOT his problem or thingy to do anymore and after I realized the celebrity angle of his helping, I won't do that again!


I understand what you and others are thinking and saying about quitting a job you had BUT----I could not ---for example this was the final straw---I could not call a woman dying of lung cancer, coughing every third word and tell her that she would not get her disability check because she had no health insurance being a waitress for 30 years and the rules say that you MUST be having two types of cancer treatment before you get a check? That was her money she paid in, not a freebie handout, money taken out of all our checks etc!!! :wtf:

There other examples before that like a man that loses an arm and a leg can not get a check IF a prosthesis exists that costs $40,000, even thought he never made more than $15,000 in his entire life? :wtf: Again his money paid in not a freebie!

The folks that did and could work there, well there were about 200 of them and they were lifeless? Not an A hole in the bunch, really. Just bland folks, Made Geeks look like the life of the party. No political caring at all, no personality, just boring bland types of people like true robots or something, it was strange.

I am not trying to get a Quote---Masters degree" job either, but I am trying to get a job that does require an undergraduate degree? I have to or the whole thing was a lie. I have to get a college degree job for my grandsons sake to prove education matters. It doesn't have to pay more than---oh shoot $18,000 and year but I can't even find anything to apply for?

Just let me lament, whine, vent, cause if Demcrats like there are here won't understand then my famliy is finished in America.

I have everything money Can't by and very little that it will!

I just don't get it and I am not dumb?

Again let me make it clear, I can't begin to tell you the incredible nice things that Prof Gore and his staff have done for us but they are not an employment agency and actually they only have a small office in Nashville manned by young folks. His work is the world and not in TN! He would scream for joy louder than anyone if and when I score a job!

Thanks Papa :Y: ;)

Thank you all, I have no friends per say in my town! Most of the older ones died do to popular culture or Vietnam. I am blessed, to have many Ph'Ds take me on as ---well they attempt to mentor me and some are my references. That is another thingy, I have outstanding Ph'D's who will reference for me and a I can't even find a job that will call them?

But they are not hang out friends! This is my hang out. My friends are the true thought from the minds of you that I know closely. Even those who disagree, perhaps, maybe trueconservative and others. They mainly have intelligence!

And then How can I forget Wayne, Al001, and so many that go out of their way for me!

You are my friends and I am down and I just don't get it?

So again thanks! :clap:

Don't worry, blue, you have a LOT of friends here and on-line...(and Al might be busy, but he's not tooo busy to keep track of friends)...but Al needs help, and we need to form a tighter network among ourselves for moral support and to take actions...blue if you think anyone is not giving you a fair shake then let me know...I am in the process of having others call ex-employers of mine just to make sure they aren't saying things they should not by law...Also blue, remember, many of us speak out against BU$H and the neocons, and they are very active on trying to make things hard on people who criticize the BU$H Regime...The Illegal War...and the GOP(GUARDIANS OF PANDEMONIUM) :angry:

You also have the other Al Gore websites, and do NOT forget algore.com (Al's personal site)...like I did! Just reading Al's Journal every new entry is 'food for the soul'... ;)

true and I are trying to concoct a network of Super Friends! LOL! And trying to keep track of everybody!



Speaking of Super Friends...has anyone seen Rev Wally lately? I am kind of worried about him! :?:

Rev Wally likes to touch those third rail issues, and I worry about that... :o

BlueRaider, your right, so much of job hunting is Who you Know and not what you know.

My career requires me to have a degree but that degree doesn't show my GPA or what my work ethic is like. I hated getting that damned piece of paper. I remember sitting in class saying to myself "My clients don't CARE what the formula is to calculate risk in an investment or what the formula is for an annuity" but I couldn't work in this industry without that piece of paper.

My wife is a marketing director for a Fortune 500 company. She worked her way up within the company to this position in just 6 years. Now that she wants to move to a new company, noone will even return her calls once they find out she doesn't have a Marketing degree. CRAP!

Job hunting is brutal...liberal or conservative.

Personally, I don't care whether or not someone has a degree. I want to know if a person has common sense and how hungry/driven they are. Degrees don't show any of that.

PapaBear has common sense and everyone knows bears are ALWAYS hungry! :D

Oh I agree about the "just need the paper" thingy.

It doesn't matter that I aced the curriculum. A person form the correct family with a 2.4 GPA gets the job over the 3.9 GPA.

However that person from that correct family has to have the paper or degree or they can't be allowed to have the job regardless of who they know.

As for your wife, that just sucks too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wtf:

I wish I could give her my degree?

It is so frustrating to know, to know dang for certain that I can beat the pants off of anyone who has a job I desire but I can't even get a chance!

Oh I can take it. I am a Ex Grunt, I can live under a bridge just fine!

It is my family, well my wife is stuck with me poor thing---(I hope she marries for money when I die!).

But I am not showing my son or grandson that education actually makes a difference and if it doesn't, then what for them?????

Blue you can't sleep under a bridge. Us old grunts are taught to sleep in the bush and the mud. Besides...Bill O'Rats butt has said "there were no Vets sleeping under bridges. And if there were they deserved it because they were either drug addicts or had mental problems." Now there is a fool who's brain has been fried by something, (arrogance or stupidity who knows...Bill O'Rats butt knows.)

Wish I could help you buddy, if you can think of a way just let me know. I never used my paper either. In fact when Home building collapsed here in the 80's and I went with the Hotel management company my boss didn't have paper. I do wish you the best.

And Papa, Wally is alive and well. He invented a device for re-stringing crossbows and a large, up and coming manufacturer of crossbows has shown interest in it.

Later guys, if you need me yell...the A has never left I just read more now.

:kyle:

Blueraider, you know I just got my master's, all As. No raise. No promotion. My boss didn't even say congratulations. She's even ignoring the fact that I put a copy of my diploma in her mailbox.

Yeh, I'm looking too. If you'll just get in touch and let me know what you're looking for, I'll fire you some openings if I run across any that might match up at my, ahem..., place of employment. Send me a resume. :Y:

Hey TNblue I have not ever forgotten ya!

I use the Vandy site every once in a while you gave me. Problem is they want oh 50 analysts which I am best at BUT they must have a degree in the medical field, like biology or DNA or whatever. Makes no matter that I betcha I understand and know more about the stuff they need read and summarized than an undergrad does, I don't have that particular degree????

A Vandy job is another one of those -----what I call Lottery win Jobs!

Oh I qualified for State Farm in the Boro, but they are not hiring. They said---we will call you, etc!

I am going to TSU next week. They say they are decent at helping. I hope they have experience at helping----well the underclass obtain jobs?

Then I am going to Goodwill in Nashville, they are supposed to help folks get work too, right?

Ya know, IF I was coming out of prison, there would be 10 agencies helping me obtain work? Right?

I just don't get it!

I am also going to hit all of these 2 week loan shark companies in the Boro to see if they can use a manager that can add, etc?

I mean I would think they would need folks to check in the paperwork on the night shift at area hospitals, but ya see, you have to know someone to get that job too! I swear ya do!

I just don't get it?

I have outstanding, crackerjack references! But I can't get anyone to look at them, but oh yeah Workforce Development did and those references lobbied heavy for me to get the job and I was going to and then Budget cut, no Deal!

I am going to email the Director of that agency that called me to advise me how to get a job with them as a Grants Analyst and ask----well can ya at least give me a direction to go for to obtain a job anywhere, I mean that is what your agency is in business to do with Tennesseans less educated than I am, right????

Then somehow or another, despite my best behavior, my best diplomacy, I will turn how to be called a smart A-- for daring to ask them at all???? :wtf:

Your right Al001---I can make a much better hooch out of a shrub or wooded area than any bridge and besides---all of the good bridges are taken!

I am not going homeless, I am just dragging my hero wife down and not being much a a role model or success example for my grandson at all!

Blue...ain't no way you are living under a bridge! And it's NOT only WHO you know...it's SHEER NUMBERS of who you know, provided your potential employer actually CALLS or CONTACTS them! I have PLENTY of references, but when a potential employer takes the WORD of ONE ex-employer over everyone else just because THAT ex-employer is a GLOBAL CORPORATION then it's time to fight back with litigation...THAT is MY dilemma! :!:

Rod, if you need references then you can get a TON of them here...and as I said, Al might be busy, but he isn't too busy to help! Trust me! ;)

Besides you ALREADY know that! ;)

And your friends at the Al Gore Army also know that! ;)

You offered me help before Rod, and I haven't forgotten that! We shall come up with a plan for success! ;)

They may take ONE of us down, but THEY CAN'T STOP ALL OF US! :clap:

You shall find no stumbling blocks here! :good:

I have to go right now to work a job I know is going to 'stink', but I needed that 'bad' job to start rebuilding my work record! I must put myself into a position where I can win! and blue, we shall work to put YOU into a successful position! :good:

When we get finished, you'll be carrying your hero wife on YOUR SHOULDERS! :lol:

NEVER SAY DIE!...AND NEVER GIVE UP!...WHEN YOU DO THEY WIN! :mad:

Now that's what I like to see! People helping people! Blueraider, you don't have a thing to worry about! That is what I have been getting at all along! You are all sticking together quite well I see!

I don't mind eating my own words, as a matter of fact, salting the syllables makes them easier to swallow!

Now we need to concentrate on papas problems too! It seems as he can only get 'bad' jobs right now, and 'good' jobs are being put out of his reach.

ok, papa, give us your plan. two college degrees warrant a much better job than $8.50 an hour!

Seems like people are actively busy trying to trash things up today!

Impermzertoge is a spambot and needs to be eliminated!

Anyway, papa, when they try to shut you up just scream LOUDER!

Anyway, as I said, your "Superfriends" are doing a SPLENDID JOB!

Let us know what you need!

;)

trueconservative
Posted: Jan 31 2008, 03:10 PM
Let us know what you need!
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Here true is the key. We need to know what is needed to help Papa, Blue and any others brought down by the policies of this administration.

In my 59 years I have found Democrats have always shown a great willingness to help when they are aware of what help is needed and if it was in their ability. And this help for those in need was offered not only to Democrats but to Republicans and those of no party affiliation as well. While I can’t speak for all Democrats I can in all honesty say that for myself and those I know our compassion for our fellow man is not limited by party preferences.

Well true, I have finished phase ONE of my plan. I have a BAD job! It takes a bad job to get a GOOD job! (stupid as that sounds) :dripple:

Phase TWO involves a redo of my resume' putting my current 'stinking' job at the top. Then I look for better. ;)

Phase THREE which corresponds with TWO is to find out WHO is bad rapping me, get proof of it and press litigation against them...I may need help on this...I need somebody to 'fake' being an employer and ask The COMPANY what kind of worker I am in an E-mail...if they say anything back against me then I need the E-mail to send to a lawyer in Florida who will press litigation... ;)

Most employers back off of retaliating against you once they hear from a lawyer...Then I will have him subpeona all records from The Company, Orlando Behavioral Health and The Compliance Board pertaining to my "stalking" situation...Then I can find out the TRUTH of what has been said about me...If individuals LIED then I can press litigation against them as well as the Company...I feel that the COMPANY will settle out of court...my records will be sealed...and they will QUIT keeping me out of jobs...too bad I HAVE to do it THIS way!...but they leave me NO CHOICE! :mad:

Also, blue if you need any personal references then let me know! I may need some as well! I have professional references, but I need more personal ones...the more the better! Rod, get as MANY pro and personal references as possible and INSIST that employers CONTACT THEM! I am SURE to help! AND I AM SURE THE AL GORE SUPERFRIENDS WILL ALSO DO LIKEWISE! ;)

I mentioned in another reply to another post. Rev. Wally is alive and well. He has invented a crossbow re-stringer that has gotten the attention of a rising manufacturer of crossbows.

For REAL?!? :rolleyes: That's too funny. Good for Rev. Wally. :good:

I hope he makes gazillions $$$$$$

Because the collective of these minds is better than the Kree intelligence (boy there is an obscure reference?)---anyway I am going to post my efforts in order to get feedback, etc and direction to get a stinking job and take some stress off of my wife and me!

I have the gas money to hit Nashville this week and I am going to my college that I just graduated with a Master's from, TSU, because I have heard they are decent at that purpose. My undergrad college, MTSU where Prof Gore taught SUCKS at this job help thingy totally!

Thanks TNblue but there is nothing at Vandy for me to apply for because my undergrad degree is not correct for any of their 50 analyst openings. Of course I could blow away any person they would hire but so what?

Thanks to all for help on references, but I have outstanding references, it is about getting someone to actually interview me and call them.

Tonight I am going to compose a email/letter to the director of Workforce Development who indeed intended to hire me before the budget rescission thingy. It is their agencies mission to assist Tennesseans to obtain work and also older "displaced or career changing ones."

I just wish a direction , a game plan etc that applies to this geographic region.

After the gas money is gone for Nashville, I intend to apply to the 2 week rip off check cashing places that TN allows to prey on their underpaid underclass workers here in the Boro.

At least I could attempt to help those folks by doing whatever, but I bet they won't wish to hire me either even though they have signs saying hiring?

I am cleared and on the list supposedly for State Farm in the Boro already but they are not hiring either.

Ya see, I have fantastic, outstanding references! I am also NOT just trying to settle for a "degree job!" Fast food will NOT hire me! My son tried to get me a part-time job at Subway and the owner said NO!

Other places give you the you will leave as soon as ya can answer, DUH!

FRUSTRATING :wtf:

eVERY bUBBA AROUND HERE SAYS, anyone can work if they will take a lessor job, etc? Well I am 55 and have a bad back. Oh now listen is is not so bad as to stop me from an eight hour day at a desk job, or a driving job, like I used to.

Oh yeah, After all of that I will try to get a driving job later this month, but-----

I JUST DON'T GET IT???? :wtf:

This is a state where only 19 percent have any degree at all. 55 percent can not read above 9th grade level! What in the hell am I missing here about getting a job at any pay that needs a 11 th grade level mind??????

This why I keep ranting that it is who ya know but with good timing as well!

I can't go negative cause that will NOT succeed, but we are bleeding slowly to death! People overcome! I just don't get it?

Thanks for the ear! :clap: :P

Ya know that scene in Die Hard---where Willis is lamenting something like---"come out to the West coast, have a few drinks, a few laugh etc."

Put me in that scene saying, "Improve your job skills, go back to school, get a degree and they will want you then, etc." :laugh: :tongue:

Ok, blue...let me tell you about my 'stinking' job...I am an inventory auditor...they will hire just about anybody, because nobody keeps the job very long...there's to much standing on ladders, bending over, sitting on the floor...kind of like the job I had at Disney only there heavy lifting was also required...not the kind of job that you would want blue, but I am 48 without a bad back...so I can do it until I get a media communications job again! :dripple:

If you are thinking about driving jobs...have you ever considered 'bonded' courier? As long as your background is clean...(and I am sure it is)...you can deliver small but important packages in a briefcase that is handcuffed to your wrist..it is rather dangerous though...and I think you have to carry a weapon...but it's just a suggestion... :lol:

Anyway, the very second you get your 'bad' job, immediately start looking for your 'good' job...believe it or not employers will look at your resume' and know immediately that you are employable...and many will say "why is he working this job with the education he has now"?...if they ask you that in an interview then you just tell them..."to eat, pay bills, rent etc." but do it in a 'nice' way...(believe me I bit my tongue when I said 'nice' way...because I am thinking "WHY ELSE YOU IDIOT?"...but you cannot say that to potential employers) :dripple:

You're also fighting against the age 'ceiling' looking for work after 40...believe me I know this...Age discrimmination is against the law, but employers still do it...they just use another excuse instead...so you need to overwhelm them with your education, credentials, and references...don't stay unemployed for too long...or you bring up questions in employers minds as to why...compare yourself to bread...when you are fresh on the shelf...(aka employed)...then everybody wants you...when you sit out of work for an extended time...like bread sits on the shelf...you go 'stale' to any employer...from the simplest jobs to the highest positions this rule always holds true... ;)

Another part of the problem is The BU$H economy produces plenty of 'bad' jobs, but when it comes producing any worthwhile employment the GOP has fallen short for the last 8 years...THEY think a 'nation' of burger flippers and illegal 'produce' pickers can DRIVE the US economy...THAT is a lie of course...in the 90's Bill Clinton along with immense help from Al Gore produced 23 MILLION GOOD JOBS!...By that I mean technical positions and employment that needed higher education...BU$H created 21 MILLION ROTTEN JOBS that didn't NEED a higher education because Republicans look at college educated individuals as 'elitists', and why do we NEED a job that makes over $5.15 an hour? When you put an Administration in that doesn't value higher education...preferring a nation of morons that are easily pulled around by the nose...that result is what we have now...A BANANA REPUBLIC! :mad:

Al001, you have hit it right on the head...like I just said...BU$H and the GOP do not value higher education at all...THEY keep saying we should be a nation of entreprenuers, but let big business moguls THWART anybody even trying to start a business of their own...they say we should leave no child behind while they rob those children of a future by borrowing from China to BUY Saudi 'oil'...and the SOB's(Sons of a Bush) want us to trust them... :mad:

Democrats help ANYBODY regardless of race, creed, national origin, or party affiliation...REPUBLICAN FACISTS ONLY HELP CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS! :!:

IF I did not have a bad back and that came from truck driving by the way----IF I did not then I would do the same ole same ole of pallet jack, warehouse crap, etc?

BUT I do and what is really bothering me is I can't balme it on age yet cause they are not even calling me in.

Now I can blame it on the fact that I have no experience on the paper they look at?

But what is scaring me, what gets me very angry is supposedly education will lift you up or at least make you employable especially in a documented stupid ignorant nobody got an education geographic location----RIGHT?

IF It doesn't then what stupid crap I am filling my grandson with when he should turn gay and use sex to get ahead in life or whatever, but it always comes back to sex doesn't it????

Or is it more accurate to keep coming back to Warren Buffet who said it is family you are born into!

If I had it to do all over again I would become a Weatherman ala Patsy Hearst :tongue:

The only control on my behavior, the only thing that keeps me from striking out besides attempting to come up with a strike that doesn't kill others is NOT to embarass that grandson!

I will lay down and die quietly to not embarass him but I tell ya----IF anything ugly ever happens to that child, I will be be by the numbers NOT responsible for my actions! :good: :good: I better have a glimmer of hope for his life to have a chance to get better or someone is going----or perhaps some corporation is going to lose some major profits!!!! :wtf:

Still seems like if I were coming out of prison they would fall all over themselves to hire me :wtf:

Blue, if your back is 'bad' from driving then I don't know if it's a good idea to pursue it again...but you HAVE to do something! Anything that will get you back on track again...when your train has too many cars derailed then it can't go forward, but as long as the engine (your motivation) stays on the track then your determination will pull you through!

And true, you are a Libertarian, so you are used to being smashed down by Republicans and Democrats...but what Ron Paul said during the Republican debates holds true as you..."we can't afford to be the policemen of the entire world at the cost of this nation"...if individuals like BU$H, McCaine, and Giulianni can't see that then they are blind! :!:

Also what you are experiencing is the "stupifying" of our nation. From my youth all the way through Reagan & Clinton a college education was supposed to 'improve' your life. Under Dubya, anyone who has a college education is considered an 'elitist'...BU$H, Cheney and the Neocons want to keep people 'stupid' and afraid of the rest of the world so that they will keep pulling the lever for WAR candidates from under their beds. BU$H favors TPT(Trailer Park Trash)...keep 'em dumb...in the DARK...and cover the mushrooms with GUANO! That's the neocon policy...and they wonder why jobs are being shipped out of here...and why college educated Americans are moving to other countries where they can make more MONEY! Also Dubya and his Rogue's Gallery NEVER raised the minimum wage the entire time THEY were in office! Just recently and if NOT for the Democratic Congress the wage went from $5.15 to $5.85...but BU$H would not have done it if NOT forced! :mad:

Then there's the price of energy fuels...without adjusting wages accordingly all BU$H and the GOP(Guardians Of Pork) did is FORCE low wage workers to do without...and middle income workers to either lose their homes or NOT go to work! Something had to give somewhere! :bad:

Do not worry blue, all we have to do is stick it out until the Democrat gets back in the White House and I don't care if it is Clinton or Obama! As a matter of fact I would LIKE to see BOTH of them in the Oval Office along with a Cabinet including John Edwards as ATTY General and Al Gore as Senior White House Adviser! I want ALL the Democrats that caused the BOOM of the 90's BACK IN OFFICE! ;)

DEMOCRATS CARE ABOUT PEOPLE!

REPUBLICANS CARE ABOUT CORPORATIONS!

NEOCONS CARE ABOUT WAR!

Also blue, I don't know what you resume' looks like, but maybe it needs revising? :?:

Even if it seems inconsiquential you need to include your prior work experience along with your education even if they don't match out. Employers...even college educated ones...like to see your practical work experience along with your education. :good:

I may be wrong, but we have to pinpoint where the problem may be! Then we can solve it! :good:

My problem is different...I GET the interviews and the employers act like they are really interested in me at first...then they disappear after the fact...to me that is my past employer...The Company doing a 'bad' rap on me...because they NEVER call my references!...in 2004 when I got 2 TV jobs they called my references...THAT tells me that an ex-employer is going beyond what they should be saying...And if I CATCH them in the ACT then I am going to sue them! ;)

In the meantime, I am reduxing my resume' to put my "bad" job at the top...THAT should show that I am at least employable! Wish me luck my Superfriends! And YOUR MORAL SUPPORT IS INVALUABLE! ;)

Ok to update:

EVERYONE, LISTEN!!!!!!!!!! You are so powerful!

TNblue has worked her fingers to the bone getting me into the Vanderbilt system for a job! :clap:

Al007, well he deserves a Silver Star for the tin mans heart! :good:

Papa, you have good ideas! My resume has been tweaked by some heavy hitters!

I just don't have any real experience save for the 6 months intern albeit at a very high level of analyst. I also have part-time consulting from Tufts University and an outstanding reference there as well, but together it does not add up to the one year of Professional that they usually wish.

Thats ok, I just wish an entry level anything and then they can't stop me. Just the old foot in the door!

Ya just gotta know the power of this net!

Ya see, I used to jump Prof Gore about the evil of the net since it destroyed my grandsons parents marriage in just 4 weeks after getting a computer. All of the bad stuff that we all know!

But Prof Gore would always counter with the freedom! That there was more chance for good than bad! Wouldn't it be something for me to go up to him and tell him I was dying until his own folks at a website got together and brainstormed and saved me. :read: :good:

Oh yeah, he knows Chris Jackson, the fine young man that started this place!

And should I succeed, I can get his ear! I just had a great communication from a high staff member yesterday, purely social, but sincere!

He has not been in public in this area since going Rock Star, so I have had no chance to see him BUT----IF this comes together because of the collective efforts, I will get his attention and wouldn't that be great to tell him what the Gore Army can do!!! :good: :clap: :coolwink:

He is a cool person and wishes for us all to succeed! He is a sincere person and I just pray that this comes together in the way it may be evolving so I can brag to him about it all and eat humble pie.

Imagine the device, the technology that destroyed my grandsons parents marriage; may also provide me a college type job that propels that same grandson to a higher place in life. One evil of the social power of the net verses the good of the correct usage of the social power of the net!

Now Prof Gore knows this can happen but he would love to hear it happened to us!

Oh yeah, side note? My grandson is a strong vocal defender of Prof Gore and climate change in class. When his name and picture came up in their Tennessee history lessons He told the teacher he was in a book from Prof Gore. That led to me giving her a copy to read and she incorporated his story into a history lesson to the class under the subject of Social Studies and Tennessee history! She read a few select quotes from the book to the entire class! We asked the grandson how they re-acted and he said; “I had to run away and hide, Oompa, they swarmed me like I was Bon Jovi!” We told him that now you have had a taste of the down side of fame.

Why did we have to lose this man as president? I guess to save the entire planet from ruin! :!:

Oh yeah Wayne, your creations entertain us all at a very much bargain price!

I love when a plan comes together is what Hannibal used to say, but I think it is better when friends of Al Gore get into action and suport!

Best of luck to you Blueraider. I'm pulling for you :coolwink:



We're all in this together!

Good work Super Friends! TNBlue,Al001,Wayne...we are all doing as best as we can blue! You shall not stand alone! ;)

But our job is far from over! We have an election to WIN as well! I am hoping for a dead heat between Senators Clinton & Obama today! A brokered election will FORCE them to work TOGETHER or ELSE! ;)

As for me, I am working the 'bad' job and planning for the 'good' job! Remember, BU$H is going out the DOOR, so we must THINK positively! :good:

trueconservative has been truly amazed by us! You see true, DEMOCRATS HELP PEOPLE! WE SHALL OBSERVE, ADAPT, & OVERCOME as my friend Semper Fi use to say...maybe we shall see him too some day soon! :lol:

The potentates are having trouble controlling the HERD! The Elephants are stampedeing for the door because of the sound of MILLIONS of DETERMINED DONKEYS KICKING! :good:

My friends, I am moving up to DIRECT TV! A better job than INVENTORY AUDITOR!...MY PLAN IS WORKING! ;)

SuperFriends...My BATTLE has JUST begun!...I will NOT REST UNTIL I WIN! :lol:

AND WE SHOULD NOT REST UNTIL BU$H IS GONE! GONE! GONE! :coolwink:

Our job is to STOP THIS INSANE WAR! IT MUST END! :!:

Also in a Herculean Effort today Warren Buffet is propping up the BOND INSURERS! He is DOING IT to STOP THE MARKET FREEFALL! ALL BY HIMSELF! THE CEO OF BERKSHIRE-HATHAWAY who gave BILLIONS to AIDS RESEARCH with BILL GATES is NOW ATTEMPTING TO STOP THE PLUMMET OF US MARKETS! :o

Who's causing the DAMAGE? Vultures like Hedge Fund Managers...Jim Chanos and William Ackman feed off of the DEAD Carcasses of Corporations like ENRON! :mad:

T Boone Pickens is busy securing 'water rights' for all of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex!...Maybe this RICH OKIE will let YOU TEXANS get a cool drink of YOUR OWN WATER! :tongue:

Ann Richards let you guys have it all for free...so what did you do?...You fell for the LIES of a FAT DOUGHBOY in San Antonio!...Maybe this will teach you GOOD 'OL BOYS WHO TO TRUST! :wtf:

I also am doing this as a distraction to the porno & spam being dropped here in Off Topic!...Somebody needs to tell earthmother that this place needs a good scrubbing! :good:

I was never trying to be a pest, papa. Just trying to get across to Liberals that YOU are all going to NEED to stick together this year or we will have John McCaine BOMBING IRAN while he INVADES PAKISTAN!

Like most of you, I do NOT want to see over 467 BILLION DOLLARS spent on another 'worthless wargame' like Bush did in Iraq!

Liberals Need To Be TELLING THIS MESSAGE!

VOTE DEMOCRAT IF YOU WANT REAL CHANGE!

VOTE REPUBLICAN IF YOU WANT MORE WAR! HIGHER GAS PRICES!

AND THE SAME Ol' SAME Ol' BUSH POLITICS!

Well I went to my first every Tuesday meeting at the Nashville Career Advancement Center!

I hope, I think, maybe perhaps IF I go there every Tuesday for the next 12 weeks, I might get a job :?: It is my best hope right now?

25 people were there from ages 40 to 55 (Me). One was 30 something, a male who moved here from Michigan who worked in Casino's. Almost even in males/females.

ALL OF THEM had 20 or more years experience in great fields like computers, Admin Asst, etc. They had all lost job to downsizing or out sourcing, offshoring, etc.

I had assumed that if I had 1 year of their kind of experience that I could get a job :wtf:

Many stated, I just need a job, not THE job!

Human Resource directors from various places come and pep talk or tell you how to network, etc. Comcast is up next. Main point of the hour was to ask your friends to introduce you to their bosses to network for a job etc.

However, the "Career Counsler" called up Second Harvest where I had applied for a job keeping inventory-shipping-receiving clerk supervsior and got them to take my resume from him??--- and that person was sitting in my chair looking for work 9 months ago?

I am going to ask them IF Goodwill has a training program to train assistant retail store managers since retail is Americas job of choice and I will work in the worst part of Nashville to become a certified store manager! (Is that shooting too high?) In the quick conversation it was mentioned when I said I love Second Harvest and their mission that they knew folks at Goodwill? I fear they also have to keep you coming around a few weeks in order to justify their $60,000 a year salary as well :?:

They do have contacts, in fact the Comcast person coming had their job 6 years ago.

Hopefully sooner or later maybe if I stay in their face, someone will pass a job by them that they know well enough and I can get one?

But 25 folks with 20-22 years EXP is disheartening!

Just a job away, Gimmie Shelter baby.

Hey Oleblueraider!

Check your messages. Hopefully we might be able to accomplish something. It can't hurt to try. :good: