So far, Gore has not endorsed a candidate in the Democratic presidential race. Now that Obama has won Iowa, will Gore lend his support to him, perhaps in exchange for some kind of role (official or not) in his administration?

I still say he should not only endorse Obama now (perhaps tomorrow morning, and get the full extent this weekend into NH?)
but an

Obama/Gore ticket would be the ultimate

And imagine Obama / Al running against McCain/Joe Lieberman ticket.
And Al defeating Joe in the debates
Wouldn't that be something.

No Clay, He DID that in 2004 with Dr. Dean, and he won't do it again...he's letting the Election Process run its natural course this time whether you and I like it or NOT! :!:

By the way, James sends his luv...NOT! :wub:

The LPOTUS isn't running!

Come on! Get mad! :laugh:

By the way I am liking Obama more every day, but I STILL like Clinton too! :coolwink:

Everybody KNOWS...I LOVE THEM ALL!...GET OUT BU$H! :clap:

OH COME ON CLAY! QUIT BEING SUCH A BABY! :tongue:

Obama/Gore is an unbeatable ticket. But since Gore has already served as VP, and he has said he is not interested, it is very, very, very unlikely. It's possible, I suppose, that Gore could be coaxed into some role in an Obama administration, if not VP then something else, maybe. I like Gore as Secretary of State, and then Gore as POTUS from 2016-2024...

AL GORE has already said "NO" to serving in any administration just less than a month ago. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22191363/

Gore rules out serving in next administration

Nobel winner says he’d return to politics only as a presidential candidate
Reuters

updated 7:43 p.m. PT, Mon., Dec. 10, 2007

OSLO, Norway - Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore said Monday he was not interested in serving in a new administration after elections next year, and the only way he would return to politics would be a new run for the White House.

But Gore, who received the Nobel Peace Prize in the Norwegian capital on Monday for his work to raise awareness about climate change, repeated in a live televised interview on CNN that he has no plan to jump into the 2008 election.

"I have no plans to run," he said in the interview at Oslo's City Hall. Gore, a Democrat, lost the 2000 election to George W. Bush.

"I haven't ruled out the idea of getting back into the political process at some point in the future — (I) don't expect to," Gore said. "But if I did get back, it would be as a candidate for president, not in any other position."

Gore shared the 2007 Peace Prize with the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), a body of some 2,500 climate scientists from around the globe.


When the prize was announced in mid-October, it briefly sparked speculation that it could trigger a Gore candidacy, though he has repeatedly said he has no plan to run.

Ian...I see Mr. Gore in Karl Rove's OLD job as SENIOR WHITE HOUSE ADVISOR!...What do you think? :?:

AGMIL...we CAN dream, can't we? :?:

Mr. Gore has a BETTER Network than Karl Baby ever HAD! And everyone KNOWS the position is the POWER BEHIND THE OVAL OFFICE DESK CHAIR! :laugh:

Three things to remember:

1) Gore has stated that he will not serve in any one else's Administration. So forget about Gore being anyone's VP, Cabinet Secretary of Whatever, or anything else. It's the Presidency or nothing.

2) Gore has not endorsed anyone at this point. And he hasn't ruled out running for President yet either. If he doesn't endorse anyone, it means that he doesn't think any of the Democrats are qualified to be President.

3) Gore's new book comes out this summer. Is it coincidence or the beginning of the perfect storm? (aka brokered convention)

Barack Obama knocked out the competition last night

What brokered convention?

The race is over.

I think he won so big he will even stop a Bloomberg run now.

This was a major knock out of both Hillary and Edwards.
Last night repudiated both Bush and Hillary.
Edwards will linger (but remember in 2004, Edwards lingered way too long and it cost Kerry alot of money).
Edwards will not win anywheree(just like 2004,save for his home state and 1 other).
This year Obama should crush everyone in SC, and now Obama looks to do on Super Tuesday something extraordinary.
And Obama now is going to crush Hillary in the deep south.

Voters might have not thought he could win and they were supporting Hillary very coldly, I think we saw history last night.

That speech was one of the best I ever heard (comparable to Gore's later speeches, comparable to Dr.King and Bobby and JFK).
We witnessed history.

Just 40 years ago, blacks did not even have voting rights.
And now a black may be president.
What a night.
I really think you gotta put the brokered convention thoughts away, because it
was a stunning victory, a mandate against Hillary. And Bill.

In politics, things change quickly when someone has momentum. A few weeks ago, Obama was 20 points down, and he won by 25 percent over the others.
(8 points over the others is 25 higher than the others).
If Edwards disappears like Dodd and Biden, Obama would wrack up 65 percent of the vote.
It was amazing.
In a state Kerry lost too.
The independents flocked

Did you see the vote totals? 212000 people. In 2004, only 120000 voted.
That alone is incredible for the Demcrats come November.
This is going to be (if the vote is not stolen) a 1984 type sweep by Obama.

And I told you guys way back in 2003, that Al needed to get in the race before
Obama did.
Because if Obama took off, there was no way Al could intercede then.
That happened last night.

Barring any unforseen event, if I had Al Gore's ear, I would tell him to reconsider
and join the ticket, and be a part of history.
IMHO of course.
Thankfully we still live in a country that at the moment allows people free speech.

Oh God!


JAMES! DO SOMETHING!

Nothing I can do but hope all that hot air doesn't accelerate global warming. ;)

Obama's win in Iowa is a lot less impressive if you know the facts.

Yes, there was a big turnout. Very large portions of the Obama crowd at the caucuses were young people in the 19-29 range. That would seem to be a good sign for the future of the party and for his chances. The downside is many, many of them were rude and obnoxious, treating everyone else like the enemy, refusing to help out lesser candidates to become "viable" when they had votes to spare (it is a long-standing tradition to do so).

A significant number of republicans re-registered at the door and voted Obama. Some were heard joking in a bar in Des Moines afterwards how easy it had been to just walk in and affect the outcome. These are anecdotes, and don't mean he didn't win anyway. But one analysis I saw had him beating Clinton by only 1% if only Democrats were included. That means a statistical 3-way tie - just like the polls said. Republicans won't be voting in the Democratic primaries yet to come, and they won't be voting Obama.

So don't be counting your chickens. Sure, he did well, in a state bordering his home state, with a lot of volunteers from Illinois working for him (I met one from Chicago in Dubuque where I was working for another candidate)

The impression of many - and this is not "sour grapes" - is that while Obama delivers an uplifting message of "hope" and "bringing people together" his campaign runs like a Republican scorched-earth policy one - the sort of crap that dissuaded AG from participating.

I really fear that the nation will be sucked in by the message but there won't be any "there" there. And I hope fervently that AG does not endorse this guy. If it plays out that he really is the character he plays when making speeches, well, good for him and good for all of us. But he's got to convince me himself. I don't like the idea of other people of influence making it happen. That suggests they know him better than the voters, and some voters overlook doubts and follow their lead. I did that when Colin Powell "endorsed" the administration's case for war. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice - uh - you can't fool me again.

The democrataic leaders have been and still are trying to talk Gore into running. It will happen, I think. Obama has stopped Hillary. She was not a favorite from the beginning, and the GOP love her because they know that they can beat her or Obama. So, they will take either one. Gore would not jump in as long as Hillary was in there, but losing in Iowa will make a difference in her showing at other places. Gore will not be VP again.

dbciii,

Many republicans did cross over and vote for Obama. I see that as a good thing. It shows that he is not a polarizing as Hillary Clinton.

It's a bit late to be still hoping Gore can jump in. The energy is all behind Obama right now. Bill Bradley has just endorsed him, and I imagine Gore will soon, too. I'd love to see Gore get back into politics by taking a place in an Obama administration (and, yes, Paraclete, he'd be a good replacement for Rove!). But maybe, if Gore isn't going to be POTUS, he should be U.N. Secretary General. I can't think of a better person to follow Ban-Moon. The world is Gore's stage now.

I used to be for Gore-Obama, now I like Obama-Edwards or Obama-Richardson.

I would put him in the US Supreme Court if Obama is President- Gore's family lives a very long time, he could rule for 30 years there

(if not, I would put Obama in the US SUpreme Court where he could rule for 40 years)

You don't got to be a lawyer either. Never was required.

I've heard enough mention of this elsewhere, that I'm wondering
why some in the republican party, might consider it a benefit for
Obama to win Iowa.

Hi E! It's more from the Rove Playbook! He's trying to mix it up again!...His Operatives are doing the SAME thing in The Granite State with Clinton! YES KARL IS ALIVE AND WELL AND LIVING IN ARGENTINA!...(Oops sorry, that was what they used to say about HITLER)...I MEAN IN SAN ANTONIO! ;)

They are just trying to cause FRICTION between the Clinton and Obama camps to DIVIDE the voters...like they do every time! They are hoping that if Obama wins then Clintonites will stay home...and if Clinton wins then Obamarians will do the same so they can get their warmongering McCaine-Giulianni Regime in POWER!! :P

That's why they are busting down Romney...If they are successful then they will go after Huckabee next...Karl Baby sent THREATS to Evangelical Churches in Iowa endorsing Mike Huckabee! :bad:

Ian...WHAT A GREAT IDEA! UN SECRETARY AL GORE! :clap:

Clay...I May hate myself...BUT US SUPREME COURT JUSTICE AL GORE IS A STROKE OF GENIUS!...That's the SMARTEST THING YOU EVER SAID! :good:

:!: omg: Gore is NOT going to run for Vice President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No how, no way, and he has stated as much in 100% clear language.

omg.

Guys, I thought we were supposed to be a "reality based" community here?!

I think most of us no longer are thinking in a reality based board anymore
As the odds for Gore getting the nominee are just a wee bit smaller than the odds Bush won legally in 2000 in Florida
:D :D :D

Why should Gore endorse Obama? We do not have a clear winner, and probably will not have one? If we had the right person running, we would have a leader right now. Gore is the one leader that can bring this country together with the world. At the convention, the country will come together and nominate the right person. I want to see this process work for our great country.

So did I!

Clay, it has been obvious to all that you've given up on reality a long time ago! :clap:

As I mentioned in another thread, what's the point of Al Gore writing a new book (scheduled to be unveiled this summer, possibly around convention time) about how to fix America and the world if he intends to entrust Obama with that responsibility?

Gore is clearly not in the Obama camp, otherwise the new book would have to be canceled since no one would buy it.

I don't see Al Gore endorsing any current candidate, not unless and until they have already won the nomination.

Democrats will need someone to help unite Obama supporters, Hillary supporters, Edwards supporters and others. If Al Gore picks a side now, he won't be in as good a position to do that later; either by supporting one of the above, or stepping up to be the nominee himself in the unlikely but still posible event of a brokered convention. :coolwink:

This thread was before last night's theft.

So, obviously it don't apply today, that is like the email that makes the round of
what happens on boards

and ends with, and 3 days later someone not around quotes the now dated first post, and the whole thing starts up again

(On some board or other, someone I know likes to bring back a thread from 3 years ago, and in doing so everyone argues, til someone else says, wait a minute, this thread is 3 years old)....

Although Gore should still back Obama if he cared to defeat Hillary, it would help Obama get past Hillary anyhow

But it is within the realm of being better odds than being hit by lightning 3 times that perhaps a brokered could work out, so why endorse (though still think there is no downside, and would lead to a public togetherness if it happens with Obama as VP anyhow

So, yes, no, maybe...I take all 3 positions :clap: :clap: :clap: :laugh:

and Gore did it in 2004, still the best move of 2004.

Gore will not endorse Obama. It would surprise me if he did, but it's not going to happen.

Why? Because Gore is a superdelegate. A brokered convention is still a possibility, so there's no point for Gore to show his hand early, particularly since the Clintons are fighting with Howard Dean over control of the DNC. Gore has kept his cards close to the vest and rightfully so.

Not to mention that Gore endorsed Dean in 2004, which makes me wonder if Dean is obligated to return the favor at some point. Now it's clear why the Clintons want to get rid of Dean.

The best way to keep the Clinton machine on the defensive is to keep Hillary guessing!

Most super delegates choices are indeed told a long time before the election

BTW- does anyone see how Hillary is SWIFTBOATING Obama?
Are we really going to let another candidate do what Karl did for years?
Karl most likely is on the phone with Hillary.
Don't let her do this.

Sorry but I think you're making a leap in logic here. The Clinton want to get rid of Dean as you put because he's not their guy. Gore has nothing to do with it.

Here's an interesting endorsement John Kerry has endorsed Obama.

Can we all stop popping red pills for a moment here? This thread has opted for a life of its very own to the point of cacophony and pandemonium... :dripple:

No matter WHO wins, the Democrats KNOW that we cannot afford fractures in the UNITY again... I said it in 2004 and nobody listened then...and nobody is going to listen now...I KNOW that! It's a given! :!:

Nobody is "swiftboating" anyone on our side...Senator Clinton isn't 'stupid' enough to do so...she KNOWS she is going to NEED everyone in the end, INCLUDING Barack Obama... :good:

If there IS 'swiftboating' going on, then believe THIS...It is coming in from the GOP...NOT US! :mad:

It's not that THEY favor ANYONE on OUR side...THEY just want the MUD to fly so THEY can say we are full of 'hate'....'hate'....'hate'...Mary Matalin is already pulling this BS on Beck's joke of a radio show this AM... :o

John Kerry endorses Barack Obama



CHARLESTON, S.C. – Senator John Kerry is set to endorse the presidential candidacy of Senator Barack Obama at a rally here today, the first of several high-profile Democrats expected to announce their support for Mr. Obama in his fight to win the party’s nomination.

Mr. Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat who was the party’s presidential nominee in 2004, will argue that Mr. Obama represents the best prospect for uniting a divided country, aides to both men said, as well as transforming America’s image around the world.

The endorsement is weeks in the making.

In the final days before the Iowa caucuses, Mr. Kerry was on the verge of endorsing Mr. Obama, several senior Democratic officials said, but a final decision wasn’t made because it wasn’t clear how it would affect the campaign. So Mr. Kerry decided to hold off on the endorsement until after the New Hampshire primary.

The endorsement ceremony today, on the campus of the College of Charleston, brings the relationship of the men full circle.

It was back in 2004 when Mr. Kerry selected Mr. Obama – then a state senator, vying for a U.S. Senate seat – to deliver the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in Boston. The speech elevated the stature of Mr. Obama almost overnight, launched the reprinting of his book, “Dreams From My Father,” and set his political career in overdrive.

Mr. Obama’s second-place finish in New Hampshire on Tuesday may have slowed some of his potential endorsements, aides said, but several Democrats are expected to announce their support soon.

While Mr. Obama has trailed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in endorsements by their Senate colleagues – a touchy area given Senate politics and personal relationships – a half dozen or so Democrats were seen as likely candidates to lend public support to the Obama campaign in the coming days.

“There have been some conversations, I can say that,” said Senator Ben Nelson, the moderate Nebraska Democrat. Mr. Nelson, who invited Mr. Obama to campaign for him in 2006, said he has not yet pulled the trigger on an endorsement but that he was more inclined to consider one now since two Senate Democrats - Joseph Biden of Delaware and Christopher Dodd of Connecticut - had dropped out.

“When there were four of your colleagues, it certainly made it virtually impossible to do so,” he said earlier this week. “You get to two and it is just a little bit easier.”

Tom Daschle, the former Senate majority leader and an early backer of Mr. Obama, said that the Illinois senator is in position to quickly pull the party together behind his candidacy should his
streak continue.

“Of all the candidates running, the easiest to rally around is Barack Obama,” Mr. Daschle said in an interview. “Because of his newness on the scene, he has not created the political opposition and enemies that come with extensive service in politics. He is a clean slate.”



The announcement will be made in South Carolina this afternoon.


New Hampshire voters said they believed Obama was more “electable” than Clinton, but she won anyway.


Republican presidential hopefuls, for the most part, are campaigning around South Carolina as they prepare to debate there later tonight.


Richardson to End Presidential Bid

Sources say Bill Richardson’s White House bid is over.

I still feel that Al Gore is correct in NOT endorsing anyone until after the natural progression of the primary cycle ends technically at Super Tuesday! ;)

Barack Obama KNOWS we NEED an ARMY of dedicated VOTERS to BEAT MCCAINE!...Senator Clinton KNOWS she must NOT be accused of 'swiftboating' ANYONE!... ;)

If KENYA can form a UNITY GOVERNMENT among VIOLENCE then why can't WE form a UNITY COALITION DURING PEACEFUL ELECTIONS? :?:

CLINTON-OBAMA or OBAMA-CLINTON...It's STILL a WIN-WIN situation in MY BOOK! :lol:

Brilliant move by John Kerry

I am just sorry Gore did not beat him to the punch as Gore was the 1st in 2004 to back Dean

Kerry's move is very, very important (even if those may not like him), but he sends major signals in experience, in who he is not backing, and in the fact that he kept the mailing lists, email lists, and campaign structure to help nationwide

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
I applaud the fact that he did it first

If we are going to all be in unity, it must be with Obama and not Hillary at the top of the ticket
(yada yada yada Gore is not the one going to get it, though we wish he were yada yada yada)

Now, when will Gore endorse Obama and when will Ted Kennedy endorse Obama as both should to drive that proverbial stake through the heart of the status quo
and go with the issues important and near and dear to Al Gore

Hillary can win, however, why not go for something better than her at the top

OBAMA/ someone else that is a liberal or progressive (and if it ain't Gore, then Kerry would be fine too!)

There have been rumors circulating of an Obama endorsement by Gore and Kerry. Kerry's endorsement today suggests that a number of the bigwigs in the party may move to endorse Obama, who is the future of the Democratic Party. The Clintons are the past. I think Gore will endorse Obama at an opportune moment, say a week before Super Tuesday. But I could be wrong. We'll see.

If it's Obama vs. Clinton, don't you think Gore will feel a moral obligation to pick the person he thinks is better for the country, and the world?

Funny the GOP feels the same way. They are all for unity as long as they are in charge. To say that you only support unity if your guy wins is just being a hypocrite.

James is correct, Clay...You cannot espouse a UNITY Ticket as long as your MAN...(Or YOUR WOMAN)...is at the top! We are set to make HISTORY here! The FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN & CAUCASIAN WOMAN TOGETHER IN THE WHITE HOUSE! :clap: :clap: :clap:

And I APPLAUD Al Gore for NOT throwing support before he knows what WE THE PEOPLE want THIS TIME! ;)

I have a DREAM...I have had this dream for a while... A DREAM OF BARACK OBAMA!.....HILLARY CLINTON!....JOHN EDWARDS!...AND ALL OF US WITH AL GORE WALKING TOGETHER LOCK ARMED UP PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE ON 1-20-2009...AND TELLING BU$H & THE WAR MONGERS TO...

GET OUT!!!!

But we MUST do it....

TOGETHER!

:dance:
:dance:
:dance:

I would rather someone else be VP than Hillary, however, IF Obama is the top of the ticket, I would be voting for him, not the VP
(unlike 1992 when I voted for the VP and not the top of the ticket, same as 1996) :clap: :lol: :D

Would rather Gore be the VP if he don't run or Kerry (Sorry but I still would like to avenge one of the thefts in some symbolic way)

And Hillary is still, well, Hillary.

It's a nice dream you had though...(if only I believed the Clinton's were on our side it would be magical).

:clap: :clap: :clap:

No offence Ian but you also thought that Gore would run for VP again.

You're a smart guy Ian but you have to stop projecting your own opinions and feelings on to Gore.

We are talking about the GREATEST POLITICAL MOBILIZATION OF ALL TIME! :lol:

Clay, just because Hillary Clinton and her husband orchestrated the BIGGEST ECONOMIC BOOM IN HISTORY with AL GORE & TIPPER doesn't mean you HAVE to vote for HER! :!:

But with Barack Obama in the MIX now...I SEE NOTHING BUT BLUE SKIES! AS LONG AS WE ACT...TOGETHER! :lol:

Clay, believe it or NOT...HILLARY & BILL CLINTON ARE ON OUR SIDE! ;)

THEY ARE DEMOCRATS!

Save your bile for John McCaine and the GOP plans for 100 YEARS OF WAR IN IRAQ! Because if THEY get in again THIS time then it will be OVER for this nation as a WORLD LEADER! :mad: