Rep. Wexler and 2 other members of the Judiciary Committee have called for hearings on Cheney's impeachment!!
:dripple: Finally!! :dripple:

He's collecting signatures to help prove to his colleagues that we mean business.
Here's the link:

http://wexlerwantshearings.com/

Sent mine yesterday

;)

Jump on-board! Cheney has to go FIRST! THEN we can focus on the Shrub...I say if 'impeachment' fails then we should still call for 'prosecution' after this Rogue's Gallery leaves office...BU$H was one of the WORST presidents I have ever seen...(including Nixon)...and I HOPE to NEVER see another like him take office!...THIS has been the MOST CORRUPT Administration I have ever seen in the WHITE HOUSE and I HOPE to NEVER see ANOTHER like IT! :mad:

I hope it happens.Should have 6 years ago.

However, we need Bush to be repudiated, not just to blame Cheney.

Because Bush not being repudiated will lead to Jeb, perhaps sooner than any of us think is possible.
And Jeb will be seen as more competent, and finish the job.

Allowing Cheney to be blamed in the end is meaningless, as he is just a player for the Bush's.

But John Conyers could start this tomorrow with just a gavel thrown down if he saw fit...why he doesn't (do the job he was born for) I don't know.

http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com

A CASE FOR HEARINGS
By Representatives and Members of the Judiciary Committee:Robert Wexler (D-FL), Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), and Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)

On November 7, the House of Representatives voted to send a resolution of impeachment of Vice President Cheney to the Judiciary Committee. As Members of the House Judiciary Committee, we strongly believe these important hearings should begin.

The issues at hand are too serious to ignore, including credible allegations of abuse of power that if proven may well constitute high crimes and misdemeanors under our constitution. The charges against Vice President Cheney relate to his deceptive actions leading up to the Iraq war, the revelation of the identity of a covert agent for political retaliation, and the illegal wiretapping of American citizens.

Now that former White House press secretary Scott McClellan has indicated that the Vice President and his staff purposefully gave him false information about the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson as a covert agent to report to the American people, it is even more important for Congress to investigate what may have been an intentional obstruction of justice. Congress should call Mr. McClellan to testify about what he described as being asked to “unknowingly [pass] along false information.” In addition, recent revelations have shown that the Administration including Vice President Cheney may have again manipulated and exaggerated evidence about weapons of mass destruction -- this time about Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

Some of us were in Congress during the impeachment hearings of President Clinton. We spent a year and a half listening to testimony about President Clinton’s personal relations. This must not be the model for impeachment inquires. A Democratic Congress can show that it takes its constitutional authority seriously and hold a sober investigation, which will stand in stark contrast to the kangaroo court convened by Republicans for President Clinton. In fact, the worst legacy of the Clinton impeachment – where the GOP pursued trumped up and insignificant allegations - would be that it discourages future Congresses from examining credible and significant allegations of a constitutional nature when they arise.

The charges against Vice President Cheney are not personal. They go to the core of the actions of this Administration, and deserve consideration in a way the Clinton scandal never did. The American people understand this, and a majority support hearings according to a November 13 poll by the American Research Group. In fact, 70% of voters say that Vice President Cheney has abused his powers and 43% say that he should be removed from office right now. The American people understand the magnitude of what has been done and what is at stake if we fail to act. It is time for Congress to catch up.

Some people argue that the Judiciary Committee can not proceed with impeachment hearings because it would distract Congress from passing important legislative initiatives. We disagree. First, hearings need not tie up Congress for a year and shut down the nation. Second, hearings will not prevent Congress from completing its other business. These hearings involve the possible impeachment of the Vice President – not our commander in chief – and the resulting impact on the nation’s business and attention would be significantly less than the Clinton Presidential impeachment hearings. Also, despite the fact that President Bush has thwarted moderate Democratic policies that are supported by a vast majority of Americans -- including children’s health care, stem cell research, and bringing our troops home from Iraq -- the Democratic Congress has already managed to deliver a minimum wage hike, an energy bill to address the climate crisis and bring us closer to energy independence, assistance for college tuition, and other legislative successes. We can continue to deliver on more of our agenda in the coming year while simultaneously fulfilling our constitutional duty by investigating and publicly revealing whether or not Vice President Cheney has committed high crimes and misdemeanors.

Holding hearings would put the evidence on the table, and the evidence – not politics – should determine the outcome. Even if the hearings do not lead to removal from office, putting these grievous abuses on the record is important for the sake of history. For an Administration that has consistently skirted the constitution and asserted that it is above the law, it is imperative for Congress to make clear that we do not accept this dangerous precedent. Our Founding Fathers provided Congress the power of impeachment for just this reason, and we must now at least consider using it.

For more info on this campaign go to www.WexlerWantsHearings.com

thnx TK

Update:

Wexler only wanted 50,000 signatures, but we gave him 100,000!! :clap:
And in only 3 days!!!

So he set another goal - 250,000!!!! Let's make it happen!! It's spreading far and wide, so keep up the good work!



Also, 5 more members have signed on to this op-ed, which, by the way, the NY Times, Washington Post, etc., refused to publish!! :banned:
And it hasn't made it to TV either!! The nerve of the MSM! :chicken:

Word of mouth (and keyboard) is the only way this is getting out, so pass it on! :rules:

I disagree. We need to impeach Bush too, immediately. Read Naomi Wolf's The End of America. Bush is taking the US toward a closed state controlled by terror. Here's a video summary of Wolf's book in less than 6 minutes.
Naomi Wolf's The End of America Summary :mad:

Concentrate on Bush.
Cheney is only a player for them

Bush must be impeached now, and totally repudiated

Impeachment today. Ouster tommorw. War crime trial then conviction and penalty of treason against America to follow.

NOW.

If everyone that cares about our nation would flat out boycott all MSM, TV, radio, news papers, and magazines ... TOTALLY, then from what appears to be the percentages involved would leave them after a huge drop in ratings, with only devout kool-aid drinkers.

People would have to be firm in this.

It would have to be a total and long lasting boycott, until at such time that the MSM outlets come to their senses and do what WE THE PEOPLE demand of them.

Pass this idea on to everyone you know, whether they will listen or not.

I know this next part is a hard pill to swallow, but a boycott of idiotic kool-aid drinking friends and even family members would be advisable too. Maybe it would shock them awake.

WE HAVE ALL GOT TO DO SOMETHING ... and QUICKLY or WE will not have our liberties, our freedoms, or our nation very soon.

:angry:

Lawyers Stepping Up
Katrina vanden Heuvel



We are lawyers in the United States of America. As such, we have all taken an oath obligating us to defend the Constitution and the rule of law…. We believe the Bush administration has committed numerous offenses against the Constitution and may have violated federal laws…. Moreover, the administration has blatantly defied congressional subpoenas, obstructing constitutional oversight …. Thus, we call on House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers and Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy to launch hearings into the possibility that crimes have been committed by this administration in violation of the Constitution…. We call for the investigations to go where they must, including into the offices of the President and the Vice President. -- American Lawyers Defending the Constitution

Over one thousand lawyers – including former Governor Mario Cuomo and former Reagan administration official Bruce Fein – have signed onto the above statement demanding wide-ranging investigative hearings into unconstitutional and potentially criminal activity by the Bush administration.

In a conference call with reporters yesterday, Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights and winner of the 2007 Puffin/Nation Prize for Creative Citizenship, said: "The majority of lawyers in this country understand that the Bush administration has really gone off the page of constitutional rights and off the page of fundamental rights, and is willing to push the Congress to restore those rights." Ratner said he was "dismayed" that a Democratic majority has failed "to push on key illegalities… the torture program, and now the destruction of the tapes involving the torture program; the warrantless wiretapping, the denial of habeas corpus, the secret sites/rendition program, special trials, and of course what we now know is the firing of US Attorneys scandal…. The minimal that absolutely is needed to get us back on the page of law is to have serious investigative hearings that go up the chain of command and figure out who is responsible for what."

Ratner noted that even with regard to the US attorney's investigations, where Congressional committees held Harriet Miers, Josh Bolten, and Karl Rove in contempt, leadership has failed to enforce these actions by bringing the resolutions to a vote. "Just announcing that investigations will be held and subpoenas will be issued is terribly insufficient unless Congress is willing to enforce the subpoenas by issuing contempt citations," Ratner said. "Congress has a constitutional duty to oversee the activities of the executive branch and our entire system of government is threatened when Congress simply folds before an obstinate executive. Issuing contempt citations against Bolten, Miers, and Rove should be Congress's first order of business in 2008."

Marjorie Cohn, president of the National Lawyers Guild, discussed the administration's torture program violating three US-ratified treaties and the US torture statute; the illegal War in Iraq violating the US-ratified UN Charter as a war of aggression; and Attorney General Michael Mukasey's conflict of interest in overseeing investigations into the torture program and the destruction of the CIA interrogations tapes.

Also speaking with reporters was Jesselyn Raddack, a former Justice Department ethics lawyer who served as an advisor during the interrogation of John Walker Lindh (the "American Taliban"). Raddack said, "My e-mails documented my advice against interrogating Lindh without a lawyer, and concluded that the FBI committed an ethics violation when it did so anyway. Both the CIA videotapes and my e-mails were destroyed, in part, because officials were concerned that they documented controversial interrogation methods that could put agency officials in legal jeopardy…. " Raddack pointed to the Department of Justice's investigations of Enron and Arthur Anderson for obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence, and the need for the same aggressive oversight and legal proceedings in these scandals.

This is a vital effort by those charged with defending our constitution, as Ratner said, "This lawyers' letter and the growing number of signatures we'll have on it, and prominent people – it's a way of saying to Congress, ‘You need some backbone. You need to have a serious investigation, wherever it might go, on these issues that really have taken the United States out of the mainstream of human rights.' It's absolutely critical… We've opened up the door to illegality…. Unless we have accountability on those illegalities, we're going to be facing a very bleak future in which fundamental rights will not really be obeyed."

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?pid=262693

I agree with you 100 percent Wally.

Especially the boycotting of friends and family who don't agree.

Time for action was a while ago, time is running out.
And if nothing is started/done, nothing will ever change. Ever.

From an email from Congressman Robert Wexler

Humanist...being realistic...(and I would loooove to impeach BU$H)...it is highly unlikely there will be time to do it while he is still in office...and why should he escape prosecution just because he leaves office? I SAY he should be 'prosecuted' along with the whole lot of them even if we have to do it 'after the fact'...and we MIGHT have to do it THAT way... :Y:

The House of Cards is collapsing - slowly but surely (I know, don't call you shirley!)

The Justice Department is launching a criminal investigation into the destruction of CIA interrogation tapes. 'Bout time!!
Hopefully it's not just for show!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22474868/

Link to George McGovern's call for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney as published in the Washington Post on Jan. 6, 2008:

Why I Believe Bush Must Go. Nixon Was Bad. These Guys Are Worse.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...onsbox1&sub=new

ACLU Chapter in PA Proposes Impeachment Proceedings:



http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_br...ter_propose.htm

Let's get this over 1,000,000!!!

Let's get this over!!!!


https://secure2.convio.net/pepib/site/Advoc...erAction&id=111

Wexler Calls For Cheney's Impeachment
By John Bresnahan
Jan 15, 2008

(The Politico) Rep. Robert Wexler (D-Fla.) is urging the House Judiciary Committee to begin impeachment hearings against Vice President Dick Cheney, despite opposition from House Democratic leaders.

Wexler, who first gained national attention for defending former President Bill Clinton during his impeachment in 1998, said Cheney has to be ousted in order to restore the balance of power between the executive and legislative branches, which in his view, has been eroded by an ever-expanding claim of authority under Cheney and President Bush.

"There's a litany of issues that need to be heard," Wexler said. "This administration has abused the power of executive privilege. This administration has completely avoided testifying before Congress on any one of a host of six, seven, eight issues.

“Whether we are talking about the manipulation of intelligence on Iraq,” he went on, “whether we are talking about the outing of a covert CIA agent, whether we're talking about the illegal use of torture, whether we're talking about the potentially unlawful firing of U.S. prosecutors - on all of these issues, the administration has thus far successfully used the power of executive privilege."

But impeachment hearings would be different, Wexler said, since the White House could not raise a privilege claim in order to avoid answering questions from lawmakers.

"In an impeachment hearing, the administration does not have the power of executive privilege," Wexler said, noting that the secret tapes that helped bring down President Richard Nixon did not surface until the House Judiciary Committee began impeachment hearings.

The House voted on Nov. 6 on a resolution by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) to bring articles of impeachment against Cheney for pushing for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, repeatedly suggesting that there ties between al Qaeda and the late Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and advocating military action to overthrow Iran.

When Republicans, in a bid to embarrass House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic leaders, voted for the measure, the House was thrown into a brief deadlock. The measure was eventually approved and sent to the Judiciary Committee, where Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) has declined to take action, despite pressure from Wexler and liberal activists outside Congress.

Copyright 2008 POLITICO

Here is the video of Rep. Wexler on the floor of the House yesterday:

http://www.wexlerforcongress.com/news.asp?ItemID=229


My favorite part is the end when the gallery is instructed to
REFRAIN FROM APPLAUSE!!!! I love it!!! :laugh:
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I commend you all on your actions, but I don't think you will get them until you have both a Democratic Congress AND President!

I agree with papa, this may have to be done after the fact. The Bush Administrations' 'cocoon' has surrounded most executive agencies to 'squelch' action against them. Plus George Bush put a 'military' officer in charge of the CIA so he can strongarm the agency. Hayden & Hadley MUST GO!

Rove is still calling the shots for the GOP. KNOW THAT!

I want HIM and the rest of the neo-conservative movement out of control of my party!

A message to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. This is something you cannot brush under the rug. If you become President then this MUST be dealt with! Justice must be served!

We also need a tough AG to investigate all their crimes.

And then can we get rid of????............................

James is correct. You need an AG that won't be intimidated, and a Democratic President that won't brush it under the rug, and hope it will go away. Because it will not happen. Too many people got hurt during the last 8 years, and too many families lost love ones because of the Bush Administration. Justice must be served!

Here's the latest:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01...eachment-drive/

They must be held accountable!! :mad:

:bad: No such luck - it would appear that the AG is in the Bush/Cheney pocket, too!! :mad:

Conyers questions Mukasey about Waterboarding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGpWtTJmfvY&NR=1

Wexler questions Mukasey about Impeachment and Contempt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7M9sjRLCtQ


Here is the list of Representatives (including 3 other Judiciary Committee members) who have signed on with Wexler in calling for impeachment hearings, and still no hearings:

http://www.wexlerforcongress.com/news.asp?ItemID=230

Gee Beav, I wonder what the hold up could be? :?:

Brattleboro, Vermont - Impeach or Arrest

They voted for more than just a presidential candidate in Tuesday's primary in Vermont. If they are not impeached first, Bush and Cheney are to be arrested and indicted if they enter the town of Brattleboro, VT!! :clap: :clap:

http://www.impeachbush.org/site/News2/1443...ws_iv_ctrl=1041