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kkoz91 - December 13, 2007 03:31 PM (GMT)
Al Gore's oratory electrifies Bali summit

Thursday, 13 December , 2007, 20:05

Bali: In a speech likely to go down in history as an oratorical milestone in the fight against global warming, Al Gore, former US vice-president and co-winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize, electrified the December 3-14 UN conference on climate change on its penultimate evening on Thursday.
Clearly speaking from his heart, Gore exhorted the nearly 11,000 delegates from 187 countries gathered here for the summit to bypass the US government delegation that is threatening to derail the entire Bali roadmap to start global negotiations that will help fight global warming.

Pointing out that climate change was already here, that it was no longer a matter that would affect future generations but was affecting the present one, Gore quoted the famous lines from the Nazi era: "First they came for the Jews and I did not do anything; then they came for the gypsies and I did not do anything; then they came for the neighbours and I did not do anything; when they came for me there was nobody to do anything for me."

Gore said a population growth that had seen world population move from 2 billion to 6.5 billion in a little over a hundred years and would soon become nine billion and a technology so powerful that it overwhelmed everything were the reasons for the state of the earth.



"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times," Gore quoted from the opening lines of Charles Dickens' A Tale of Two Cities. "Now it is a tale of two planets," he said. “Earth and Venus.”

"They are identical in every other way. But on the earth, over millions of years plant life has pulled the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and has kept it underground in the form of coal and oil. That is what makes life on earth possible. Now we are evaporating our coal mines. It's the CO2," Gore said in a line reminiscent of the famous Bill Clinton election slogan - "It's the economy, stupid."

In repeated and strong criticism of the Bush administration of the US, Gore said: "The Earth's fever is rising and it won't heal itself. What do you do when your child has fever and the doctor says he needs treatment? Perhaps you go for a second opinion, then a third and a fourth. When the fourth opinion says the problem is very serious, do we still withhold treatment?"

He was referring to the fourth assessment report of the Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change (IPCC), the global coalition of scientists that have now proved beyond doubt the seriousness of the climate change challenge.

Gore told the assembled delegates: "My country is not the only one that can move forward. You can do one of two things. You can feel anger and frustration and direct it at the US. Or you can move forward and keep a large blank space in your mandate, saying our mandate is incomplete but we're moving forward in the hope that it will be filled in by the time we have a treaty in Copenhagen at the end of 2009."

Gore illustrated his point through a quote from a famous ice-hockey player, who had said: "I pass the puck not where they are but where they are going to be."

Drawing repeated applause from his audience, Gore assured the delegates that the US would move forward once the next government was in power, and offered the many steps taken by the Congress, state governments and local governments as well as the stated positions of all major Democratic and two Republican presidential candidates as reason for his confidence.

In this situation, Gore said: "If you show anger, the entire world could lose momentum."

Speaking of major issues at stake in the fight against climate change - the adaptation fund and technology transfer to help developing countries, ways to combat deforestation, he told the delegates: "We can get this done."

Gore wanted a stronger target for reduction in emission of greenhouse gases that warm the atmosphere, and wanted the new treaty on it to come into force from 2010, not 2012 as the delegates have been planning.

"We can't afford to talk for the next five years," he said, "when the scientists are telling us we have to take action within the next 10 years."

to According to Gore, people everywhere were already up in arms against climate change. He described it as the "first global people power movement." Quoting Martin Luther King Junior's famous statement that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere, Gore said: "Global warming anywhere is a threat to the world everywhere. We must leave Bali with a strong mandate. It's not a political issue, It's not a diplomatic issue. It's a moral issue."

Gore told the delegates: "Our capacity to strip away disguises is necessary now. We are one people on one planet, we've one future and one destiny. What we need now is capacity building in developed countries for political leadership."

Gore referred to the Satyagraha movement of Mahatma Gandhi, calling it a "truth force", to say: "Truth has a power to set us free, to unite us."

He also referred to an African proverb to say: "If you want to go far, you go together. For that, we need a mandate here."

Warning delegates about the price of failure at the conference, Gore said: "Our children will ask us - what were you thinking? Didn't you hear the IPCC? Didn't you see the glaciers and the north polar ice cap melt? Didn't you see the many more droughts and storms and floods? Didn't you see the sea level rise? Didn't you care? Or they can ask us - how did you find the moral courage to successfully confront the biggest challenge that faces the earth?”

"Relatively few people have a chance to change the shape of the world. We have that chance now. We ought to feel joy that we're alive at such a moment in history. We have all we need except political will. And that's a renewable resource."

Gore received a standing applause at the end of his speech, just as he had done when he had walked in and then when he embraced IPCC chairman Rajendra K Pachauri, whose organisation shared the Nobel Prize with him this year, on stage.

But the ministers who were discussing the Bali roadmap were still in negotiating rooms and probably did not hear him at all.


I am just so IMPRESSED and PROUD of this man. Thank goodness we have him in the world as a reminder of what real America once was and can be again someday....SOONER rather than LATER, I hope!

UPDATE- This ABC News article lists more of what he says....and has a great photo of what a serious GORE looks like. :) As WE Al Gore supporters say, it's definetly time for a COOL change. Let's keep hoping for that brokered convention Earthmother has mentioned in past posts!!!!

Al Gore in Bali

ap215 - December 13, 2007 03:55 PM (GMT)
Yay. :clap:

hedaash - December 15, 2007 02:42 AM (GMT)
Mr. Gore has insulted the United States of America. He is a liar; a coward; and a traitor. As a serving officer for 24 years, lived and worked after in the Arabian peninsula, and homesteaded in Europe, I call out Mr. Gore as just another self-righteous politician, the likes that has led America down this path of disgrace, weakness, and destruction.

I call on you Mr. Gore to apologize or I will call on every retired or serving officer to take your integrity and your title to the American people as an example of how we arrived at this perilous point in history.

When you insult my country sir, I you have insulted every dead, and living officer; and therefore I call you liar; I call you coward; and I call you traitor.

Make your point with science (and in that as a trained science officer, I challenge you on these points too); but no real American officer would use his country as an excuse for a classic example of incompetence, exploitation, and conduct unbecoming of a US federal officer, especially on Bill Clinton's and your part. If you had the insight when you had the platform and power, then why did you and your cronies do nothing but chase the public opinion polls.

Never cross my path as I am fed up with you do-nothings who have usurped this country's good name (for which you have done nothing to create or sustain) for personal gain. You have enraged this officer, and my comrades; and if you want to meet real Americans then prepare yourself for some old fashioned American confrontation from every direction.

Again, you made a fatal mistake speaking as such in front of the largest Islamic nation on the planet; and therefore I consider you a seditionist, and enemy of us and the American people and her good name. You pale in the shadow of Mr. Regan, Teddy Roosevelt, and George Washington...but are in good company with Grant, Jackson, and another loser and disgraceful political thief, Mr. Carter.

If you would have done that in my presence, I would have shown the people of Bali what a real American was in my reaction to shutting your big potty mouth.

Never call yourself an American leader, nor should fools who consider you as such. A leader never makes excuses especially using his organization or nation...he either shoulders the issues with fact, or on keeps his silence. Expect the people of Bali to see a slew of letters calling you out as you really are - a disgrace, a fair-weather patriot, and a failure as a man and an American leader.

I served America ... but never used her to serve my own personal interests. Thank god that you were not elected and ever will be elected President of our great nation. One fool was enough...two is worse, but the greatest fool of all has disgraced this nation in front of the world.

JamesAquila - December 15, 2007 03:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (hedaash @ Dec 14 2007, 09:42 PM)
Mr. Gore has insulted the United States of America. He is a liar; a coward; and a traitor. As a serving officer for 24 years, lived and worked after in the Arabian peninsula, and homesteaded in Europe, I call out Mr. Gore as just another self-righteous politician, the likes that has led America down this path of disgrace, weakness, and destruction.

I call on you Mr. Gore to apologize or I will call on every retired or serving officer to take your integrity and your title to the American people as an example of how we arrived at this perilous point in history.

When you insult my country sir, I you have insulted every dead, and living officer; and therefore I call you liar; I call you coward; and I call you traitor.

Make your point with science (and in that as a trained science officer, I challenge you on these points too); but no real American officer would use his country as an excuse for a classic example of incompetence, exploitation, and conduct unbecoming of a US federal officer, especially on Bill Clinton's and your part. If you had the insight when you had the platform and power, then why did you and your cronies do nothing but chase the public opinion polls.

Never cross my path as I am fed up with you do-nothings who have usurped this country's good name (for which you have done nothing to create or sustain) for personal gain. You have enraged this officer, and my comrades; and if you want to meet real Americans then prepare yourself for some old fashioned American confrontation from every direction.

Again, you made a fatal mistake speaking as such in front of the largest Islamic nation on the planet; and therefore I consider you a seditionist, and enemy of us and the American people and her good name. You pale in the shadow of Mr. Regan, Teddy Roosevelt, and George Washington...but are in good company with Grant, Jackson, and another loser and disgraceful political thief, Mr. Carter.

If you would have done that in my presence, I would have shown the people of Bali what a real American was in my reaction to shutting your big potty mouth.

Never call yourself an American leader, nor should fools who consider you as such. A leader never makes excuses especially using his organization or nation...he either shoulders the issues with fact, or on keeps his silence. Expect the people of Bali to see a slew of letters calling you out as you really are - a disgrace, a fair-weather patriot, and a failure as a man and an American leader.

I served America ... but never used her to serve my own personal interests. Thank god that you were not elected and ever will be elected President of our great nation. One fool was enough...two is worse, but the greatest fool of all has disgraced this nation in front of the world.

Some people just can't handle the truth. And his rant just proves how intellectually bankrupt the right has become. Instead of trying to refute what Gore said on a factual basis, he resorts to tired old macho jingoistic slogans.

ALGOREismylife - December 15, 2007 04:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (hedaash @ Dec 14 2007, 08:42 PM)
Mr. Gore has insulted the United States of America.  He is a liar; a coward; and a traitor. As a serving officer for 24 years, lived and worked after in the Arabian peninsula, and homesteaded in Europe, I call out Mr. Gore as just another self-righteous politician, the likes that has led America down this path of disgrace, weakness, and destruction.

No, Mr., you are the liar and coward and sound like a typical brain-washed republican fool. You spew out trash and lies with such anger. What's you're problem??? Jealous, that you're not half the man AL GORE is????

If you want to spew this garbage, take it to a pro-Bush site where you will no doubt find some stupid enough to listen.

scalbers - December 15, 2007 03:02 PM (GMT)
I think it's fine to bring in people from all persuasions into this forum as that's how minds might be changed with reasoned and polite discussions. We have the science now in more certain terms (compared with the 1990s) so a larger fraction of the people might come around to the point that this is the time to act. It's true that Clinton/Gore might have used the bully-pulpit (even with the less conclusive science) a little more in the 1990s, though I recall their answer at the time as to why more action wasn't being taken is "what we need is a climate change in Washington [meaning generally in the Congress and such]".

All we need now is discussion so more people can understand how the science works - for example how or why this is largely irreversible if we don't act. We also need more leadership, and I think Al Gore is now doing a great job at that. If he wants to criticize the intentions and actions of the American delegation, then he is a true patriot exercising free speech (isn't that one of the cornerstones of our great country, even something we have fought for to create and preserve)? If he wants to do this on a world stage, then that is fine too. Since internal pressure isn't yet persuasive to our government, a little dose of external shame might be constructive.

scalbers - December 15, 2007 06:16 PM (GMT)
Looks like the video is available here!

http://www.un.org/webcast/unfccc/2007/index.asp?go=071213

Perhaps his speech helped put the energy in the conference to hammer out the level of agreement they reached. Hopefully he'll keep riding herd on the ensuing negotiations. He did say he wished he could snap his fingers to change the US position - and concluded mentioning political will is a renewable resource.




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