If nobody saw it, please record the repeat in the morning hours.....Tucker on MSNBC came out of nowhere tonight to say that Bloomberg was in discussions (in Bali?) offering to bankroll a billion dollars for Gore to run as an Independent. He indicated there was a good possibility this would happen. His two guests, Clinton spokeswoman Hillary Rosen and x-CNN twit Bob Franken were in denial it would take place.
The strange thing is I can't come up on searches that refer to this story anywhere.
Anybody else no about this?

Are you serious? If you find any links/info. on this, please let us know. It would be comforting to know that my speculations have some validity... that they are not totally delusional... :P

I never believed Gore would take a VP position, but I did speculate on an Independent run. Of course, IF Bloomberg did say this, it doesn't mean Gore would do it, but hey, you never know. :coolwink:

A dream come true if it happens

I haven't watched it yet but here's the video of the debate on a Gore/Bloomberg ticket.


Gore/Bloomberg on Tucker

If it was on Tucker Carlson, we need to be very skeptical.

I agree with EM, I wouldn't trust Tucker the 'F' Carlson to tell me the time of day. <_<

Well, I just watched the video (had to download the latest version of Flash Player first :rolleyes: ).

Bob Franken made some nasty remarks ('It would be like the bland leading the bland."-- Please). Then he also said that he's convinced that Gore is communicating with the Draft Gore campaign and is essentially running a campaign through us. Such b.s. He needs to do his homework.

:laugh: Now THAT's delusional! Don't we wish! ;)

Well, if that's the kind of stuff they were spouting off, they were probably just trying to ruffle our feathers. Yes, we should be very skeptical...but darn, I wanted to have something to hope for.

If I had the time right now, I'd do this.

Don't look to the MSM here- search outside of the U.S. for any stories that might support this.

Is Bloomberg even in Bali and if he is, why?

Otherwise, this looks to me like the set up to start slandering Gore again, on the climate issue, because of the current U.S. blockage to climate agendas. Along with that, change the topic even if the topic you change to may be entirely false. Get people to pay attention to anything but what is really happening.

Yes, Bloomberg IS in Bali.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg speaks about global warming at a news conference Thursday Dec. 13, 2007, in Nusa Dua, Bali, Indonesia. The U.N. climate chief warned Thursday that a deadlock between the United States and the European Union over pollution cuts threatened to derail talks aimed at launching negotiations for a new global warming pact.



This is the text with the photo of him, but I can't get the photo to post, sorry. Don't know why I can't figure out how to do that?!? :angry:

Bloomberg has been an environmentalist as long as Gore and Bobby Kennedy Jr. have been

If ever Gore had a soulmate, Bloomberg is it.

Let's cross our fingers and hope there is real conversation going on behind the scenes and remember-
they would NOT have to announce anything until spring 2008, even early summer
and then it would be a 3-5 month campaign once the other teams are known

There are forces out there already waiting to insure all 50 states will be able to be on the Nov.08 ballots

People ask why would Bloomberg finance someone else?
Why?
Because he cares.
It's not necessarily about him (although he could be on the ticket too).

One thing about Bloomberg: He was the mayor of NYC during the Republican National Convention in 2004. He ordered the arrest and detention of thousands of innocent people. Some of the people weren't even trying to (heaven forbid) express their right to freedom of speech, some were just going about their daily business and they were caught up in his police net. They were held for days and some without needed medications. This man has no business even to be in the same room with Al Gore.

As for Bali. Bali should never have been chosen as a location. Horrible human rights record. That isn't a snark either. I guess no place is perfect especially not the US.

That was coordinated by the feds and the state (He did not personally order anything, the police did)
. It wasn't like the locals had a choice

And the local police in NYC with their union do whatever they want anyhow and they have their blue wall of silence so they rape/kill/mame innocent people every single day of the year (and I am from NYC).

The difference between Rudy and Bloomberg though is that when the police
shoot and arrest innocent people, Bloomberg rails against the dirty crooked Hillary like cops.
Rudy was happy he killed blacks. 41 shots.
Bloomberg loves all people and is not a racist like Rudy. Rudy is at their bedside and goes into the black areas.

The police are out of control just like the Blackwater death squad mercanaries
in this day of Bush.

So this really had nothing to do with Bloomberg at all.

And he is a liberal democrat who just used a different party to run. He is no fan of Iraq or the Bush family.

It's like blaming John Kerry for the arrest and caging of the Democratic convention, or blaming the democrats for the beatings in 1968 in Chicago.

Look, we are never going to find a candidate without blemishes and faults, and I am more than willing, if Gore decided to run with Bloomberg, to put aside the RNC-detainment-arrest-civil-liberties issue. If Gore would find him fit to run, then I would too.

Would a Gore/Bloomberg ticket do more harm or good in terms of pulling support from R or D camps?

AL GORE was one and should still be one, unless you think integrity, honesty, intelligence, caring and hard work are faults.

IF THE VOTE IS HONEST (ha ha ha ha)

then a Gore/Bloomberg will come in first, with Hillary in 3rd.

And it could be Gore/someone else as VP with Bloomberg as an advisor or in the cabinet or something.

The important thing is for Al to run anyway possible in 2008 not 2012. NOW.

I hate to say it, but no way in hell will the vote be honest in 2008 unless AL GORE jumps into the race. The election will once again be rigged and stolen by the racist and bigoted republiKKKlans. But we know they couldn't steal it again from AL because it would be to obvious and he would probably win big, so it would matter even if they tried.

But first, AL has to run. <_<

Please stop trying to whitewash Bloomberg's role in what happened during the 2004 convention.

The NYC police force is under his command. He had to agree to all the so-called 'security procedures' in 2004.

And if the police are out of control as you put it, it is still his responsibility because he's the Mayor. And if can't control the police then he is inept.

Bloomberg bowed at the feet of Bush in 2004 because it was politically expedient for him at the time. The only reason he is an independent because it is politically expedient for him.

The man has no principles and no loyalty other than his own ambition.

One of the reasons for the buzz about Bloomberg is because he is a billionare. Plenty of money to spend. However, Gore is not going to run Independent with him. It was discussed in one of the magazine interviews he did this past fall. (Maybe Vanity Fair or Rolling Stone?) The magazine said he and Bloomberg talked about running Independent (offhand and not seriously) but Gore would have none of it because he is a dyed in the wool Democrat. He would never run on any other ticket.

As for what happened in 04, I hope the mayor and the police of NYC will never let something like that happen again. There are lawsuits still in progress. How this ever could happen in America is beyond me and when I hear the name Bloomberg it reminds me of it whether he deserves it 100 percent or not.

The feds were in charge of security and there was no way to go against it

Why didn't John Kerry or Howard Dean complain about the same thing in Boston during the Dem convention?
(For that matter none of the Dems complained who spoke at the convention, did they, and that included Al.)

We live in a fascist police state now, so what do you expect?

Anyone protesting would just be tasered like the kid who was when Kerry spoke, and Kerrry did nothing.

So you're saying that either Bloomberg has no backbone or was inept.

And the same things did not happen at the convention in Boston. Stop rewriting history.

Please don't confuse Clay with facts. :laugh:

Protesters in Boston were caged like animals and not really allowed to protest at all

Some say Boston was alot worse.

What gets the protesters everytime is the people from the other side who infilitrate the groups and start trouble, making everything worse
Those instigators (shades of the Brooks brothers rioters during the recount) are there just to incite and start police action.

The feds/cops would beat up the mayor if they had a chance
(being most of them are on steriods and power crazy anyhow).

No one in Boston was detained for up to 4 days without charges or the right to make a phone call or consult with an attorney. That happened in New York with Bloomberg's OK.

Who? Other than you!

Just like a certain GOP shill who comes to this board to start trouble.

Bloomberg was a Bush lagdog when gave him political advantage. Now he's an independent because it gives him political advantage. Everything the cops did in 2004 was done with Bloomberg's approval. Stop trying to deny the truth.

I have also said let's toss everyone out, as everyone has something in their past

and let's start again with brand new people everywhere
So you and I could run, how about that-better yet, I will name you my VP so you can be the one to get nasty on everyone else like Terry McAuliffe and Howard Wolfson and Carville and Rove and Atwater and Roger Stone.

Of course, it wouldn't do much for ths board

I wonder James, why are you bringing Bloomberg down, if he is the 1 person who maybe could convince Al to run and help finance?

Seems Al as President is what we are here for. Do you really care how he gets
to be President? I don't. Because if Al is president, I for one would trust he do the right thing. If Al thinks Bloomberg is AOK, then he is AOK with me.

Unless, James, you don't trust Al.

Al thought Bill Clinton was AOK.

Al thought Joe Lieberman was AOK.

Al thought Howard Dean was AOK.

I may like Gore but I don't have to like or support everyone that he thinks is AOK. And Bloomberg is not trustworthy. He was a Bush suck-up when it benefited him politically.

Howard Dean is AOK

Joe LIeberman is not. And he was Al's VP (and major mistake).

And Russ Feingold gave the AOK to John Roberts

Politics sucks. Sometimes you do things you don't want.

It's when you do too many of them that then the person sucks.

(I did not like that Al was so rightwing in the 1980s, but I forgive him for that...as people live and learn...it's the ones who don't learn like Bush that keep their viewpoint even when they know they are wrong(politicians).