http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/7123.html

By: David Paul Kuhn
Dec 1, 2007 12:56 AM EST

Below is not the article posted on Politico but only some excerpts. For the full article go to the above link

Clinton seizes opportunity after crisis:

That was the headline from Politico.Com concerning the recent hostage crisis at her Headquarters. The article went on to say "The scene was one of a woman in charge."

“It looked and sounded presidential,” said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics. “This was an instance of the White House experience of this campaign. They knew how to handle this."

Hillary feels she preformed with the grace she would exercise as President and it showed her ability to hold the office. This seems to be because she talked to Governor and spoke to the hostages when it was over. In my opinion it was not true that this elevation her Presidential abilities, unless it was her planning on how gain the most political ground from the situation which she jumped on as soon as the ordeal was over.

Many may disagree with my conclusions. First let me say I do not believe it was orchestrated by Hillary or her staff to enhance her standings. The reason I believe this under cut her qualification to be President is simple. First I know it has long been the policy to not negotiate with terrorist and hostage takers. She was not asked to do this. She could justify this as President but she is not. She maybe the top candidate and some say a shoe-in (which I am reluctant to believe with so much time left) but she is not yet our parked in the Oval Office.

My concern is that the hostage taker requested to speak with Hillary and was willing to use CNN as the go between. Had she done so she would have had a unique opportunity to work with Hostage negotiators the keep the man calm and buy as much time as needed to peacefully resolve a tense situation, But even with one of her own staff being held in her office she refused to talk with him.

Instead of using all her ability to insure the safe release of one who have given so freely and without selfish hopes of personal gains by supporting Hillary. I feel that Hillary failed this hostage when instead to doing her best and all that was requested, she used the time to plot ways to best use this hardship to bolster her position as a candidate, which she appears to have jumped on as soon as it was over.

If Hillary does become the Democratic Candidate I’ll be joining Earthmother and tkdveg in the four day bender.

Umm, I believe that's a 4 YEAR bender. Count me in, unless I opt for leaving the country. Right now it's a toss up. Maybe I'll just do both. :blink:

Your right TNblue, it was four years. I guess the disillusionment has warped my sense of timing. Four days would only result in a very extending length of further suffering.

The thought of another country does sound appealing.
:Y:

It's more like get ready for McCaine to INVADE Iran...(if BU$H doesn't do it first to get us stuck in another one, like his father DID with Somalia)...What will we do? Not vote for Clinton if she wins the nomination so we can have a 'war' that goes on forever & ever & ever & ever & ever.....? :?:

Because I guarantee you...if the GOP manages to WIN next year the we ARE going to keep TROOPS in Iraq until the 12fth Of Never to 'protect' Halliburton while it tries to suck 'black gold' out of Iraq with a 'golden straw'... :mad:

One thing I CAN say for the GOP is this...as MUCH as they DO fight in the primaries...they can ALL 'suck it up' when it comes to putting THEIR man into office...no matter HOW much damage he MAY do... :wtf:

I say "More Troops" McCaine will be MORE dangerous than Hillary Rodham Clinton could EVER be...by the way, McCaine is ALREADY taking 'implied' credit for the SURGE in Iraq...(because HE said, "more boots were needed on the ground" some time back)...and after Petreaus, all we HEAR is 'happy news' magically coming out of Baghdad all of a sudden... :dripple:

Yeah, but have you heard Hillary say the boys are coming home to America?
I haven't.
Haven't heard her say they are going to roll back the patriot act either

Remind me where the toilet is, I gotta vomit :spikey:

And I haven't heard her say she will investigate anything, nor go for crimes against Bush/Cheney

She will sweep the crap under the rug like happened in 1993

CLAY FACT CHECK:

In fact none of the major Democratic candidates would pledge to bring the troops back from Iraq by the end of their first term.

Both John Edwards and Hillary Clinton voted for the Patriot Act and both Clinton and Obama voted for its re-authorzation. A review of all 3 candidate websites show that repeal of the Patriot Act is not part of any of their platforms. At most, Edwards site does mention fixing the Patriot Act but gives no specifics.

Again nor have any of the other major Democratic candidates pledged to do this either.

As has been shown in previous posts the Iran-Contra scandal had been fully investigated by the Senate and a Special Prosecutor long before Bill Clinton took office in 1993.
Clay just repeating the same lies over and over again is not going to make them true.

That James is reason enough not to blindly vote for Hillary or Edwards whatsoever.

Because of what they won't do, with no hope of them doing the right thing IMHO

Used to be, people had to earn one's vote, not voting with your fingers closing your nose shut to prevent the stink from seeping in

America- we can do better than Hillary.
You James are free to vote for her should she be the candidate.
Not me.

Translation:

Blather, blather, blather, I can't refute the facts so I'll change the subject, blather, blather, blather, I hate Hillary, blather, blather, blather.

Let me change the subject again, blather, blather,blather, I LIKE HILLARY, blather, blather...And WHY wasn't I on the Birthday list for 12/29? today?...That's OK because I am just another year off from dying anyway... :good:

Don't mind me James, but if all we are going to do in the thread is find a way to bash on Hillary Clinton then I might as well do the same...only in reverse... :dripple:

Besides, Hillary wasn't grasping for straws right off of the bat...it seems like she eventually DID address the subject...but ONLY because everybody else had already weighed in on the topic...and what she said was true :!:

The person who sits behind that Oval Office desk on 1/20/2009 IS going to inherit a LOT of problems because Dubya ISN'T going to SOLVE them! Just like many blame Somalia on Bill Clinton when he ACTUALLY INHERITED the disaster from George H. W. Bush and Colin Powell who high-tailed it to the nearest EXIT! :mad:

What we are forgetting about with the Clinton years is this...our economy GREW by leaps and bounds...our International Standing was GOOD among world nations diplomatically...and fuel prices were kept low...we fought in conflicts in Bosnia/Serbia with FULL support of NATO...and we NEVER even experienced major loss of troops...Who wouldn't want back the BOOMING 90's? :?:

The BU$H years have been "H3ll" and everybody knows it...EVERYBODY SACRIFICED save for the BU$H Administration...By the waaaay...It was CONDOLEEZA RICE who talked Benazir Bhutto into going back to Pakistan in October of this year for the main reason of getting the PPP, Bhutto's Party to work WITH Musharraf's together to help follow and eliminate 'terrorists' crossing the Afghan border into Waziristan in Paki Territory...She sent Bhutto to the slaughter knowing it wouldn't take much to get Benazir to go back into dangerous territory...After all Musharraf was just pumped $Billions$ of bucks for anti-terror activity...who knew he would use the money to arm up against India in Kashmir & the Hindu Kush? And there are actual people that wanted Rice to run for President! :mad:

America- we can do better than Hillary

Hope to God we get someone else as the candidate

Obama is 1 million times better than Hillary.

We don't want a royal family 40 years of the same two families(actually one family-an extended one

Just think- one of Jeb's sons may marry Chelsea, then it really can be
Chelsea-Clinton-Bush

Wouldn't that be puke invoking?

Happy New Year's James.
What would life be like if you didn't idolize me so much that you feel the need
to respond to everyone of my posts


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I'll idolize and respond - if we get Obama it would be all in the family with cousin Cheney? ;)

Idolize??? Now you are really getting delusional.

My just Keith Oberman to your Bill O'Reilly act. Setting the record straight from your BS, blather and lies. :laugh:

Happy New Year! :tongue:

Clay, I think you're making James mad...Can I be Chris Matthews? :?:

Or I can be Dennis Miller or Glenn Beck...but I'll have to learn how to 'suck canal water up my'....well you can guess the rest! :laugh:

Or, I'll tell ya what Griswald...after some GOP idiot wins in 2008 because we were bickering...I can take you out back...kick you in the ****...and we can call it EVEN! OK? :?: