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Title: Daylight savings time, a lie
Description: Daylight savings time does not help


fabiana777 - November 24, 2007 08:25 PM (GMT)
Hello, I live in California and for many years we have been practicing this stupid tradition to change the time. I don't believe that it saves energy. I think it does the total opposite. Does anybody have any views on this?

Reverend Wally - November 24, 2007 09:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (fabiana777 @ Nov 24 2007, 03:25 PM)
Hello, I live in California and for many years we have been practicing this stupid tradition to change the time. I don't believe that it saves energy. I think it does the total opposite. Does anybody have any views on this?

It's all about making the elite rich, richer, and working people to death.

scalbers - November 24, 2007 09:30 PM (GMT)
I think it might depend on how long it is done for. For example the recent extension later in the fall causes later sunrises on late October and besides being harder to get up in the morning, you need more lights and such in the AM. So I think it would work better if it was eliminated for the last two weeks or so in October.

I think this was experimented with year round in the 70s at one point and that was really overkill with very late sunrises all winter.

TNblue - November 24, 2007 09:46 PM (GMT)
All I know is that when we "fall back" I get a sudden onset of SAD (seasonal affective disorder), curl up in a blanket, and GAIN WEIGHT! Full spectrum light. That's the cure.

I thought we did it so the kiddies waiting for the school buses could be seen better and not get run over in the dark.


scalbers - November 24, 2007 10:48 PM (GMT)
Right - though it had the opposite effect with dark school bus waiting in the winter mornings...

fabiana777 - November 24, 2007 10:53 PM (GMT)
Thank you for your responses. Hahaha, so it makes us gain weight? Now I see where the extra weight came from!! Anyway, I get up at 5 in the morning, and I have to turn the lights on until I leave at 6:30 am. Then at 4:30 pm we have to turn the lights on again. This is peak hour when everybody is doing housework. I don't see the "savings" they claim with it. If we didn't have to turn the lights on for another hour (say 5:30pm), doing the housework would not represent so much overload for the energy suppliers.
Am I the only one who sees this as working against Gore's plan?????

ALGOREismylife - November 25, 2007 12:20 AM (GMT)
I think extending daylight savings time into November and having it start earlier is a waste of time, it is where I live. It rains all the time in November, so it's worthless. It still gets dark early. I wish they would just leave it alone.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...1027?hub=Canada


Daylight savings time holds for another week

CTV.ca News Staff

Updated: Sat. Oct. 27 2007 3:08 PM ET

Those anticipating an extra hour of shuteye on Saturday night will have to hold out until next week.

The move back from daylight savings time to standard time takes effect at 2 a.m. on the first Sunday in November, rather than the last Sunday in October.

In 2005, U.S. legislators extended DST to 34 weeks in an effort to lower household energy consumption. Daylight savings time also started three weeks earlier this year. Advocates claim the changes will save up to 100,000 barrels of oil in the U.S. for every day of extra daylight.

Most Canadian provinces fell in line with the U.S. this year in an effort to harmonize, but the shift may have extended some some unforeseen consequences.

When the new daylight savings schedule began in March technology experts warned of a mini-Y2K glitch in personal computers, Blackberries, cellphones and MP3 players.

Health Canada also issued a warning that "springing ahead" could short personal medical devices, such as pacemakers and implanted defibrillators, and hospital information systems.

No major problems were reported.

Earlier this week, German researchers, reporting in the journal Current Biology, say the one-hour time adjustment of switching to daylight saving time can cause a significant disruption that has unintended effects on our bodies.

Just like other animals, the human internal clock -- called our circadian rhythm -- uses daylight to stay in synch with our environment as the seasons change, say the researchers.

Scientists concluded that when people are allowed to wake whenever they choose on their days off, their sleep timing follows the seasonal progression of dawn under standard time, but not under daylight saving time.

Researchers say this forced change on our circadian rhythms could have long-term effects on our health, but it is not yet clear what those effects might be.

The practice of adopting DST dates back to the First World War. DST was first implemented in Germany with the United Kingdom and other Allied countries following suit.

It was believed that DST would help to align traditional hours of work with daylight hours and would reduce the need for artificial lighting in place of employment.

The practice remains unpopular with farmers and other groups whose activities are set by the sun rather than by the clock.


fabiana777 - November 25, 2007 02:58 AM (GMT)
Algoreismylife, I had not considered the fact that it is unnatural for the human being to have this artificial change. You have opened my eyes on that!!!! Wow!!!! I think they should leave it alone. With all the biological changes we are experiencing (like the bee situation, for instance, etc.) I think that since we don't know the long term effect of these decisions, we should leave things alone. This unnatural change is definitely not good.




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