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Title: Clinton Campaign Says They Have Info
Description: Scandalous for Obama? Mudslides downward


The Paraclete - November 19, 2007 07:17 PM (GMT)
Whether used or NOT the Clinton Campaign has put a shred of 'doubt' into peoples minds about Obama by even SAYING they had scandalous info him...THAT means 'mud' exists to throw...And the Clinton Campaign is saying that if Obama wins then every Democrat KNOWS that Limbaugh, Hannity, & Beck along with others like Coulter would NOT HESITATE to THROW THAT MUD! :!:

But what about Hillary? Well EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT HER MUD...so it's 'old' news...Whitewater...Lewinsky...it's ALL 'old' hat... :dripple:

The Dems are preparing for neocon "swiftboating" along with the prevailing 'smear' campaign that will be all over Conservative TALK Radio...pulling their non-informed listeners along by the short hairs of their noses because after all THEY can't THINK for themselves...(the second part of this was sarcasm--don't take people for 'fools')...
;)

We NEED to remember this...we cannot drop to THEIR level...the ONLY thing Clinton is doing 'right' as of now is attacking her attackers immediately...Kerry was too slow to do that in 2004, that's true, but...we MUST NOT be perceived as the 'mudslingers' as well...Reducing the Democratic side to THEIR level will just cause more 'distrust' of our side as well... :bad:

Our REAL problem is nailing down the neocon pick on the GOP side...showing the US Public that the GOP (Guardians Of Propaganda) will undoubtly put in somebody who will PERPETUATE the WAR in IRAQ...and NOT bring it to an end...Our side NEEDS to run on the PEACE & PROSPERITY ticket...The American people WANT the BOOM back! THEY WANT THE PRE-BU$H USA AGAIN! THE USA THAT BILL CLINTON & AL GORE GAVE THEM IN THE 90'S ;)

But we DO NOT want another 'dishonest'...'disingenuine'...KARL ROVE campaigner to become President...Senator Clinton needs to remember THAT! :good:

By the way...letting you ALL know I will be in Seattle until Dec. 3 to give SUPPORT to our sons and daughters in the NAVY!...Have a Happy Holiday...and I shall return... :good:

ReElectAlGore2008 - November 19, 2007 08:06 PM (GMT)
actually, it is Obama that said he won't fall for the crap

Hillary is the one, once again, flinging crap
Hillary is one of the dirtiest of the dirt, and so are all her people
Wolfson,McAuliffe,the two that helped soil Dan Rather, the guy(sandy Berger) who stuffed documnents in his underwear), all of them are dirt

America, can't we do better than any Clintonite anywhere in any campaign?

JamesAquila - November 19, 2007 08:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Paraclete @ Nov 19 2007, 02:17 PM)
Whether used or NOT the Clinton Campaign has put a shred of 'doubt' into peoples minds about Obama by even SAYING they had scandalous info him...THAT means 'mud' exists to throw...And the Clinton Campaign is saying that if Obama wins then every Democrat KNOWS that Limbaugh, Hannity, & Beck along with others like Coulter would NOT HESITATE to THROW THAT MUD! :!:

But what about Hillary? Well EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT HER MUD...so it's 'old' news...Whitewater...Lewinsky...it's ALL 'old' hat... :dripple:

The Dems are preparing for neocon "swiftboating" along with the prevailing 'smear' campaign that will be all over Conservative TALK Radio...pulling their non-informed listeners along by the short hairs of their noses because after all THEY can't THINK for themselves...(the second part of this was sarcasm--don't take people for 'fools')...
;)

We NEED to remember this...we cannot drop to THEIR level...the ONLY thing Clinton is doing 'right' as of now is attacking her attackers immediately...Kerry was too slow to do that in 2004, that's true, but...we MUST NOT be perceived as the 'mudslingers' as well...Reducing the Democratic side to THEIR level will just cause more 'distrust' of our side as well... :bad:

Our REAL problem is nailing down the neocon pick on the GOP side...showing the US Public that the GOP (Guardians Of Propaganda) will undoubtly put in somebody who will PERPETUATE the WAR in IRAQ...and NOT bring it to an end...Our side NEEDS to run on the PEACE & PROSPERITY ticket...The American people WANT the BOOM back! THEY WANT THE PRE-BU$H USA AGAIN! THE USA THAT BILL CLINTON & AL GORE GAVE THEM IN THE 90'S ;)

But we DO NOT want another 'dishonest'...'disingenuine'...KARL ROVE campaigner to become President...Senator Clinton needs to remember THAT! :good:

By the way...letting you ALL know I will be in Seattle until Dec. 3 to give SUPPORT to our sons and daughters in the NAVY!...Have a Happy Holiday...and I shall return... :good:

It should be noted that the original source of this story is Robert Novack (also know as Robert 'No Facts') the man who outed Valerie Plame for Bush.

Even fellow conservative Pat Buchanan on MSNBC this morning was ambivalent about whether Novack could be trusted as a reliable source regarding this story.

From the Huffington Post:

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Novak Admits Smear Column Is Even Weaker Than It First Appeared

Bob Novak took to the airwaves today to defend his recent controversial column, in which he claimed that Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign was sitting on a bit of juicy dirt concerning her rival, Sen. Barack Obama.

Why the need to defend? Well, to put it bluntly, Novak's Saturday column has been ridiculed as - among the more noteworthy descriptions --- "shamelessly unethical" and "unconfirmed crap," for naming no names and containing no tangible information. So, to clear up the facts and keep his name in the news cycle, Novak went on Fox News this morning.

Novak disclosed that his source for the story was not anyone close to Clinton but rather, someone who was "told by an agent of the Clinton campaign" about the alleged dirt. Got that? So Novak was not privy to the dirt itself, nor did he talk to Clinton's people. Rather, he heard it from someone who had heard it from someone else. Another secondary source, Novak went on to say, claimed to have heard the same thing. Fact-checking = completed.

For the record, in the original column, Novak suggested he had more personal knowledge of that rumor-mongering. "Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton," the piece began, "are spreading the word in Democratic circles that she has scandalous information about her principal opponent for the party's presidential nomination..." There was no mention of a source.

Also during his Fox appearance, Novak used his unconfirmed rumor to further smear Clinton, calling her campaign's supposed tactic "very similar to the kind of tricks that Richard Nixon used to pull, where he would say, 'I know some very bad information about the communists supporting George McGovern, but I can't put that out because it wouldn't be right, because I'm too good of a guy.'" Again, Novak is dragging down both Obama and Clinton.

And if it seems that this whole episode was just concocted up by some Republican operative to make Clinton and Obama look bad, rest assured.

"I haven't spoken to a single Republican," Novak told the Fox and Friends hosts. "This is all Democrats. That's the whole method of the Clinton campaign is when anything derogatory comes up, they say the Republicans are spreading it, but there was no Republicans involved in my reporting on this."

Don't worry, a source who is close to a source told the Huffington Post that this episode will all go away soon.

The Paraclete - November 19, 2007 10:04 PM (GMT)
Got it James...This is kind of a non-event...Still the media reported it as if it were an absolute fact...Novak is 'good' at posing as a Trojan Horse...And there you have it...it MAY not even BE for REAL...yet the media plays on it and it canvasses cable TV...By the way James & Reelectgore...WHO on the GOP side has the WORST neocon Rove stink?...Just wondering...because SOMEBODY is orchestrating this, and I THINK it's coming from San Antonio where a certain fat doughboy lives!...gotta go! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Before I DO go...IF a GOP agent planted this 'crap' then we NEED to track down THAT agent...Sorry, I almost forgot that Novak is on the SAME payroll as Coulter, Hannity, Limbarf, and Co...I am SO embarrased!...Thanks James for the Post article! :unsure:




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