I am confident Al Gore is going to run for the Democratic nomination and that he will announce by around 19 Dec. This is how I see the next few weeks unfolding. These are my top ten reasons why.

No 1. Michael Bloomberg. It is well known that MB and Gore are close. MB is telling his friends that he is 50-50 about running for President said Mort Kondrake on 17 Nov on Fox. Steve Forbes wrote a similar thing only a couple of weeks ago. These are well informed people and so we must conclude that someone close to MB is telling them he is thinking of running.

MB was recently on the frontcover of Newsweek and his cheif of staff was definitely encouraging speculation about his boss running. But MB wont run. He is too smart to think he could win and he is a guy who loves success. Perot was successful but half mad - MB is successful and not mad.

So if MB is not running why is he fueling speculation? I believe he is positioning himself to say something like, 'I'll run for President unless the best guy in America does and the best guy is Al Gore.' It would be a powerful endorsement particularly since MB is more popular than the frontrunner in her home state.

No 2. No Sherman. Gore expressly told NPR and the UK's Financial Times this week that he has not issued a Sherman statement. He told Rolling Stone a few weeks ago that he hasnt issued a Sherman but that it is extremely unlikely he could run. Gore has not said he is not in this race and when they can be said about a very popular candidate in late Nov 2007 the balance of probabilities indicate that he is in the race as a stealth candidate.

No 3. Gore also told Rolling Stone that it would take a big event to change everyone's consciousness in order for him to run. He speculated that such an event may happen soon. Well today the IPCC came out and said that (as we all knew) things are far worse then previously reported. Gore is going to Scandanavia on Dec 9 for a major public concert in his honour and then I'm sure there will be a magnificent ceremony where he recieves his much earned Nobel Peace Prize. He then goes to Bali as the keynote speaker. I hereby predict that Gore will singlehandedly hammer out a new binding global deal on climate change that goes a long way to solve this crisis. 180 nations (out of 191) are sending delegates and their governments are going to instruct their delegates to just agree to whatever says. Everyone is under his spell. Gore can then visit his great friend Kevin Rodd who will have become the new Aussie PM by then and then arrive back in the US and say, 'now that the world has done this deal in Bali my faith in the power of the political system is renewed so ... I'm going to run for President.'

No 4. Obama. There is strong evidence of collusion between the Gore and Obama teams. I suspect that Gore will not file for the Super Tuesday filing dates and at that point most will give up all hope. However Obama will file with all states. So if Gore and Obama announce a joint ticket in mid Dec then all those who want to vote for Gore simply vote for Obama and those delegates will vote for Gore at the convention. This point was brilliantly made by Aussies4Gore about a week ago on another thread. The day after Gore won the Nobel Prize Gore's aides spoke to all the cable and free to air DC chiefs and they all repeated the same lines which included something like, 'it was possible Gore would get into the race is there was some type of brokered convention.' I believe that was a forewarning of the joint ticket between Gore and Obama.

No 5. It was good news that Gore called off the draft. IT WAS BADLY ORGANISED GUYS!! I'm sorry - buts its true. I tried to join up in my county and expected to see a great campaign team in place after reading all the hype on the web - but it turned out to be a history student doing it part-time from his garage and mobile. In Michigan Draft Gore got 3,500 signatures out of a required 12,500. Well done! You just embarassed Al Gore and it was going to be repeated everywhere else my own investigations indicated. All our hopes were in the seemingly most organised and most high profile - Californian Draft Gore. But I got an email from them last week saying that they had raised $11,000. They really needed at least 2 more zeros on the end of that to be serious. Earthmother told us around 10 days ago that Gore's staff were really keen for the Draft Gore movement to get serious - this was a last ditch effort to get some action happening. But Gore realised that the draft was going to fail and that would make bad headlines so he said, 'call the mess off.' Since then Earthmother has told us that Gore staff are saying they asked us to call it off because of, 'complications.' We know that Earthmother is reliable and so there is only one explanation for such a message - Gore has a plan in place and the half-hearted draft was embarassing.

No. 5. White House. Gore is going to the White House very soon. That will be big news and the symbolism of Gore being back there - in late Nov 2007 - will be powerful.

No 6. Its not all for nothing. I have watched An Inconvenient Truth several times and forced all my friends to but lets be honest - it is pretty obviously a political campaign commerical in many parts. I believe in everything Gore says but isnt it convenient that we barely hear from Gore from Dec 2000 until around mid 2006 when he begins to be everywhere. I know its because of the climate crisis BUT it does also fit in neatly with the political calender.

No 7. Media Absence. In the past 18 months there has been around 5 spikes of interest in Gore - two books, concerts, oscar, emmy. On each occasion Gore has been absolutely everywhere in the media - glowing in the attention. Surely his Nobel Prize exceeds all but on this occasion he is barely anywhere. Why wouldnt Al want to talk about his Nobel Prize but no Gore, the media darling, is near silent - except for NBC's Green Week. Its because his plan is to be the saviour at Bali and then annouce the joint ticket with Obama.

No 8. Superman. On 30 Rock Gore was brilliant and the not too subtle message was that Al Gore is superman. That is what Gore is going to really be in Bali - he is going to save the world by hammering out the mother of Kyoto. The 30 Rock appearance was about building his image in line with superman.

No 9. Hillary is fading. Gore despises Hillary. Gore doesnt despise Bill but he does feel fairly certain that he only became President because the top tier Democrats in 1991 (ie Al Gore) decided not to run because Bush Seniors ratings were above 90% and so only second teir candidates (ie Bill Clinton) did actually nominate and fluke the presidency. The nation is crying out for a whole new administration and the only way to really clean it is to change the political party. Therefore America is crying out for a Democrat - but there are serious doubts that she can win. No-one else can beat Hillary - except Gore and he would demolish her. We know it. Gore knows it.

No 10. Lifelong ambition. Gore's father considered running for President and raised his son to run for President. So Gore ran for President in his late 30's and came equal second with Jesse Jackson behind Dukakis. Think about it - a guy in his 30's coming second in a race that at the time appeared likely to be choosing the next president. He then miscalculated and didnt run in 1992 but when Clinton needed a VP the obvious choice was Gore. Then in 2000 Gore won the popular vote despite Clinton scandals and the fact that Americans have never elected for more than 2 terms for the Democrats since FDR. Gore pushed the recount through to the Supreme Court for 5 weeks - that is how much he wants the Presidency. He is just a little embarassed about that whole episode now so he is desperate to not look like he wants the Presidency. Dont worry - he wants it a lot more than you or me.

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AlphaGoreOmega

Gore couldn't run in 1992, because some mysterious so called accident hit and run
almost killed his son, so he took himself out of the race while they waited to see if his son lived or died.

Gore/Bloomberg Unity08 independent run for the presidency, who needs the democrats, when they have screwed everything for Gore the last 8 years.

(btw- if Bloomberg ran with Hillary and Rudy and a conservative also running, Bloomberg would kick all the others asses from here to White Plains. (as Telly Savalas once said on Kojak). He has a billion dollars to spend for the fun of it.

Gore is not running. You can't not file for the Super Tuesday states and run for the Democratic nomination. Gore apparently believes that he can be more effective without running -- as for example in the climate change forum he is organizing in December. He is pressuring both Republicans and Democrats to take stands on this issue, because he thinks it is more important than ideology.

The only possibility for Gore to be president in 2008 is if he and Bloomberg run independent -- possible, of course, but highly unlikely.

Clay Fact Check:

There was nothing mysterious the accident that nearly killed Gore's son. On 2 April 1989, Al Gore III suffered a near-fatal car accident after a Baltimore Orioles baseball game. Running across a busy street outside the stadium, he was struck by a car and thrown thirty feet.

During the period of his son's recovery, Gore took a sabbatical from politics and wrote the book "Earth in the Balance".

Some people say it was on purpose. Unless you james were the one who was there, you have no idea what intent was in the person who did it (we're on the road to Manchurian)

Especially as it opened up the race for none other than Bill Clinton (funny how all those breaks always goes the Clinton-Bush way)100percent of the time

What are the odds? 100billion to one?

But it was why he did not run 1992

What people? Can you name them or quote them? Do you have links to support your allegations? Most likely not.

You weren't there either so you have no idea of the intent of the driver. We live in society where people are presummed innocent until proven guilty. Since you're the one that's making the allegation, you're the one required to prove it. But you can't because like most of the verbal diarrhea that you spew it is totally without factual support and the product of your deeply warped mind.

The race in '92 was hardly opened up for Bill Clinton and Clinton didn't even become a candidate until over 2 years after the accident occured. As usual you just make up BS with not facts to back any of it up.

please, after 1988, everyone knew Clinton would run

ONce again you are being date specific to when he "offically announced"

Just like you didn't think Hillary was running when the whole world knew she would run the day Kerry did not get seated if not years earlier..

You need to get some facts straight.

To begin with, the effort was not badly organized. I'm not saying it couldn't have been better organized, but it wasn't bad. The strong state organizations of California, New York, and Massachusetts were well on track to being successful. And the $11,000 you quote that California Draft Gore raised was not correct. The last time I checked they'd raised something like $40,000, and the money was still coming in even though they'd taken down the effort. Yes, they needed more money, which is what sparked this whole thing in the first place. Had no one gone to Gore's office with this information, I doubt we'd have been asked to stop.

The Michigan effort, by the way, isn't a fair one to use because their deadline was so early that they didn't have a prayer of reaching their goal in time, so they stopped. But in California, Massachusetts, and New York, they almost certainly would have succeeded. Massachusetts ended up with 4,500 signatures when it only needed 2,500. They're still debating whether to get that petition certified, even if they don't file to put Gore's name on the ballot--just so they can show that they succeeded.

The draft movement was not an embarrassment to Gore's office. Far from it. I don't know where you live, so I don't know what volunteer you're talking about that you contacted, but yeah, so he was a college student working out of his garage. I'm a writer working out of my home office. So what? We're a volunteer movement, and we live and work in many places. We don't have an office in Nashville or New York or D.C. So what? And if you had trouble hooking up with someone to work with, all you needed to do was contact me.

I'm sorry if I sound defensive, but thousands of people have put in hundreds of thousands of person-hours on this effort, and I'd at least appreciate it if you'd get your facts straight and don't go around saying that we were an embarrassment. Given that we had no candidate, no money, and no encouragement whatsoever, I think we did a damn good job--AND WE WERE GOING TO SUCCEED IN GETTING GORE ON THE BALLOT IN CALIFORNIA AND OTHER STATES.

Do you have any idea of the Herculean effort it took to get almost everyone who attended every single book-signing and speech Gore did in the spring to be wearing a Gore 2008 sticker? Any idea? Most of those dates weren't announced in advance. We had to mobilize people in each city and arrange to get materials to them overnight. If you knew what people did, you'd amend your thinking. And of course, that was just one small example of the things that we've been doing all year.

Also, yes, I'm 100% reliable. You got that right. But the conclusion you draw after saying that--that there's only one explanation and that's that Gore has a plan in place and the half-hearted draft was embarrassing--is totally wrong. I don't believe he does have a plan in place (for getting in the race), and he certainly didn't tell us to stop because the movement was an embarrassment. His office knew that we were most likely going to succeed in California and the other states. I fail to see where that's an embarrassment. It comes down to this: The information you mention that I put out a few weeks ago was erroneous. I regret having ever said it. And it wasn't said as a desperate effort to rally the troops. It was information we received from second-hand sources, but not in Gore's office. They are people who have contact with his office, however. I believe that the information was relayed to us in an erroneous way, but not with bad intentions. I can't give enough details to explain this, but I hope you'll trust me on this. I have never put out information to suit our purposes. I'm always cautious and only put out what we believe to be credible. We had every reason to think it was credible. I now believe that it wasn't. However, there's no disputing the info or the source from last week. That info is credible, and we have to heed it.

Please just be aware that the thousands of us who have put our heart and souls and time and money we don't have into working on this effort don't appreciate the kind of analysis you've posted here, particularly from someone who has apparently not actively done anything to help the draft effort. Much of it is factually incorrect, and to now spread it across the blogosphere that the draft movement was an embarrassment doesn't help us either, to say nothing of the fact that it isn't true.

Who's everyone? Most people didn't know who Bill Clinton was until 1992. And those who did know who he was thought his embarassing performance at the '88 convention would prevent any success on the national stage.

But let's get back to the point, you've alleged that the Clinton's were responsible for Gore's son's accident. Do you have any proof to back it up or is it just more blather that you're pulling out of your butt.

No I didn't say that

What I said was in essence how every single little coincidence seems to go either Bush or Clinton's way
100percent of the time

Like the exit polls in 2000 and 2004

What are the odds? A zillion to one?

Circumstantial evidence won alot of case for alot of lawyers (especially those sleezy John Edwards types)

But you can go ahead and think Hillary is the cream of the crop, as she is going to win if Al don't get in the race.

Who exactly do you think shall stop her if Al can't?

AMEN, Earthmother!

Yes you are alleging it and you still are. And you just saying it's so is NOT circumstantial evidence. If there is circumstantial evidence then present it.

And just because I don't beleive in demonizing the Clinton's with made up BS doesn't mean I think their the cream of the crop either. You always resort to lies when you can't prove any of the BS that you pull out of your butt. Just like Rush and O'Reilly.

Alpha Gore Omega, you should listen to Earthmother - she is completely informed and accurate about the whole Draft Gore effort, and is absolutely above-board. I'll just amend that, at last count, Massachusetts collected many more than even 4,500 signatures - maybe 7,000, give or take. I myself collected over 700 signatures, and at times I had to almost peel people off me when they "lunged" at my clipboard to add their signatures, such was their enthusiasm. The draft effort has been impressive, to say the least, and I'm proud to have been a part of it.

I'm going to be generous and say that this was just the posting of someone who didn't know what he/she was talking about. It's an insult to the thousands of people who were out there collecting signatures, attending union and local Dem. party meetings, organizing at speeches and book-tour events, attending meetups, recruiting volunteers, keeping everyone informed as to their activities, and all the other things our people did. Dinah, from what I understand you're the queen of signature-getters. :bow: We're all indebted to you. And we'll just ignore what those who don't know better say. ;)

Yes, Karen, there were thousands of us who put our all into it - I treasure and honor our connection and the work each of us has done (and would have mentioned the many others if I hadn't been so quick to toot my own horn :coolwink: ). None more than you, dear friend!

I think you can find his sources here:

IDIOT.COM

:D :lol:

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