OK guys,

As the representative from Aussies4Gore (YES, AL HAS MANY FANS DOWN UNDER), I have been watching closely the state of play with the Democratic primary close-off dates.

I understand many of you are down hearted and negative, but as Al said in Rolling Stone, his supporters have to trust him to make the right choices.

I have no doubt that Gore is thinking about entering this race. And I would like to officialy place on the record thata Gore Obama ticket will not only be unstoppable, but also very likely. One only has to see the recent wind-up of attacks on HRC to realise that it is all comming unstuck for her quickly, making the window of opportunity for a Gore entrance bigger by the day.

BUT HE HAS MISSED MICHIGAN, NH AND OTHER STATES! I hear you all say.

Yes, this is tue.

But Obama hasn't. He has filed for everyone.

What if it is a Gore-Obama ticket, and Obama has filed for the the states Gore has missed? And they are running mates?

Easy, if you want to vote for Gore, vote for Obama in these states. These Delegates to the DNC will vote for Gore.

If I could spend time collecting signatures in the US to draft Gore, I would. If your laws allowed foreign nationals to donate to US campaigns, I would. But all I can ask is that those of you in the United States of America who still believe Gore is mans last best hope to save our plannet, please do everything you can to encourage him to run. The people of Australia thank you.

This is a brilliant idea and thought.
another candidate can tell their delegates(or suggest) where they can go(one just can't steal delegates illegally)
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Well while I am throwing thoughts around:

30 Rock. This was filmed prior to the Nobel Peace Prize being announced. AS such, I really don't believe there is going to be any significant announcment on this show. It will be neither negative or positive - just good publicity for Gore making himself more 'human' and 'less wooden'. So don't anyone be dissapointed if he doesn't announce. Note that this is on NBC

J Leno. If this does go to air (considering the writers strike), I would expect Gore to open the door a little at this opportunity. This show has a history of politicians making anouncements. Even Schwarzenegger anounced he was running as Gov. Cal. on this program. Note this is also on NBC

How about the Today Show appearance Gore made this week - NBC

Also did anyone see the The Saturday Night Live Show last weekend? Obama openly making fun of HRC? again on NBC. Obama had a good run on this show. In fact this show bagged every Democratic candidate except for Gore and Obama.

Obama was also on Today show the day before Gore - NBC

Oh and NBC aired the 7/7/07 concert series.

I hate to state the obvious but the Gore/Obama/NBC connection is staring us all in the face.

Doesn't Al's daughter write for NBC shows?

One last thing - the very very lengthy Newsweek article just released about a possible Bloomberg nomination as independent.

We know a few things here. Gore and Bloomberg are buddies. What if Bloomberg came out and said "If the best man (being Gore) doesn't run, I will".

This may force Gore's hand to run in order to avoid splitting the democrat vote with an independent and giving the Whitehouse to the republicans for another 8 years. Besides, under a Gore Presidency, Bloomberg may well make the ideal Treasury Secretary...

At the end of the day, the world still needs you guys to keep up your efforts to Draft Gore. You are our best hope.

Joe
Sydney, Australia

"Easy, if you want to vote for Gore, vote for Obama in these states. These Delegates to the DNC will vote for Gore."

I wish some of you Aussies would move to Georgia! We've got too many Republicans down here. I've been thinking about the Gore-Obama thing myself for about a year now, and I think that they could strike some kind of deal where Obama shares his delegates with Gore in exchange for the VP slot. Maybe Gore is just waiting to see what happens to the campaigns over the next several weeks. Anyway, if Gore jumps in at the beginning of December and cuts a deal with Obama to step down after Iowa and tell his supporters to go with Gore, then you'd see a Super Tuesday showdown between Gore-Obama and the Clintons, and that would give us a "future" indeed.

There are many here, ready to jump ship much too early, who need to be inspired by you and the others around the world who maintain their faith in and support for Gore! He's asked us to stick with him and to trust his judgement, and that's exactly what we have to do!!
Thank you so much for your suggestions - I really like your Gore/Obama scenario!

If we can get Gore on the ballot in California and New York (December 3rd and 4th), he could change his mind and decide to enter. Michigan and Florida are going to be disqualified for moving up their primary dates, Obama is likely to win Illinois (and his delegates could go to Gore if they formed a combo), Gore could still compete in Iowa and have his name written in on the New Hampshire ballot. That leaves his time to file for and run in other big states like Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Virginia, Arizona and Washington. So, it's still a possibility. California, New York, Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania alone make up 30 percent of the American population. So Gore could still enter late and cruise to victory. But I think it is going to hinge on the DraftGore movement's success in getting Gore on the ballot.

The question for me is, what might Gore's reasons be for saying NO and then entering in to the race at the "11th hour," as it were? The main thing, it seems to me, is that he doesn't have to run a long campaign (which he is not inclined to do) and it takes the other candidates (especially the Clintons) completely by surprise, so they have no time to prepare a campaign strategy against him. And he knows better than anyone how the Clintons work.

I still don't think Gore is going to run at this point, but I remain hopeful that he will see the importance of this election and change his mind.

Last night, Lou Dobbs said that he did not think that any of the ones running now, would be the nominee. He said that was on both the Dem. and GOP side. He did not think anyone running had the ability to be president.

Dobbs is the second person to say this

The only thing this could mean is that

Al Gore will be the Dem nominee, and it will set up a rematch in 2008, as Jeb will be the Republican nominee.
Who else is big enough to topple all the other candidates for each party?

JEB?!?!?! That's CRAAAAZZZY talk! Not a chance in hell that's gonna happen!

Who else would Dobbs be talking about? And somone on I think MacLaghlan said the same thing a few weeks ago
The only other person would be beautiful Condie (to offset Obama?)
Crazy was thinking a no-talent like W would be selected, but he was
(Crazier would be Cheney himself saying he will run to finish the mission)
We are talking Republicans here, and their nominating way is easier for their core (the radical right) to pick the candidate, unlike the Dems who's main core never gets listened to because Dems figure all Dems will in the end vote for any Dem

And the only Democrat Dobbs could be talking about is Gore

CRAZY is Pat Robertson, who today endorsed Giuliani. Guess his "moral" outrage at abortion and gay rights is really just a cover for his love of wealth and power. Rudy Giuliani-Jeb Bush '08!!!

I do not believe that we have to worry about Jeb or Hillary. We are weary of both the Bushes and the Clintons. That is why Hillary will not make it to the end. Gore is quietly waiting in the wings.

I can't see anyone supporting another bush in this country save the loyal 25% or so. And the very thought is repulsive let alone crazy...I suppose that papa bush couldn't be accused of the lack of trying though. He might become absolutely tearful if another of his corrupt progeny can't ascend to the throne.

I sure like your enthusiasm!!! :clap:

Did that bible-thumping twisted hypocrite actually mention Jeb Bush '08???? I smell evil. :bad:

Thought I'd interject this here. We have some new information as of today, and it seems to be good news, for a change . . .

Our sources, which are reliable, credible, and very close to "things," say that Gore is carefully watching what's happening to Hillary's numbers since her stumble in the last debate. They have fallen off ten points, and the slack isn't being taken up much by the other candidates. Rather, most of it is going into the "undecided" column. Why is Gore watching that? Well, if Hillary's numbers drop, and Obama and Edwards pick up only a few points, then they're all pretty much equal, and no one will get enough delegates to take the nomination on the first ballot. Gore is apparently looking at the changing polls and sizing it all up.

Also, I don't know if any of you saw the story out of Tallahassee this morning. It was reported that Senate Minority Leader Steve Geller of Cooper City, FL, checked with Gore's office to be sure he didn't want to be on the Florida ballot. Gore's office said no, the vice president hasn't changed his mind about not running. However, the information we have is that Gore declined to have his name put on the ballot because he didn't want to cause friction with the party, not because of running or not running. All of the declared candidates have pulled out of Florida, and if Gore had put his name on the ballot, he'd have been the only one on. Not good, obviously.

Our sources were excited today and believe that things may be shifting in Nashville. We'll have to wait and see . . .

Also . . .

they emphasized that what we're doing with getting him on the primary ballots in California, New York, etc., was REALLY important. We have to succeed with that. If you live in one of the states involved in the petition drives, PLEASE volunteer to help collect signatures. WE HAVE TO SUCCEED!

We HAVE to succeed. :clap:

Finally! A crumb!

Thanks Earthmother! Keep the good news coming.

Thanks Earthmother!

Finally a seeming little shift ...(somebody watch the Super Delegate count and see how that is going)
Those super delegates need to know there is someone out there, so their votes should not be tied to someone now(so to say)...

Is there any list of how many super delegates are assigned to each state, and the common consensus of who becomes the super delegate?Maybe a massive email/letter to all those possiblities as the time goes on would be a possiblity.

(For instance, Bill Clinton seems to be one in one district, and Joe Lieberman is angling to be one in CT, etc...)
1/4 of the delegates needed (approx.) are super-delegates. While they are not legally bound, normally they are in "someone's pocket"
(and if one candidate has an above average # of them "tied up", it means they need way less regular(bound)delegates than another.

My dear friends in the USA

I would love to know your thoughts on my comments regarding the NBC connection wih Gore and Obama - doesn't it all seem a little convenient?

I still believe Al can be persuaded to ener this race. In fact I would suggest he may have already decided and is just waiting for the right time.

Keep up the good work.

Thank you all

Joe
Sydney AUstralia

I don't read much into the NBC Connection, Aussie. I do think the Gore-Obama connection is plausible if Gore enters the race, because of similarities between their respective political visions and because of the power of that ticket.

Regarding EM's post, it's good to hear there is a glimmer of hope. I have been wondering about Gore's comments in Rolling Stone: they seem to contain a veiled message to DraftGore supporters not to give up. Surely Gore wouldn't expect us "to keep the energy stored up" for the next four or eight years. He must be referring to the next month. And, if Draft Gore can indeed get his name on ballots, it occurs to me that this might be the shift in public consciousness that convinces him to get in the race. I will contribute to CA Draft Gore and email everyone I know in California.

By the way, which of the Super Tuesday states have DraftGore drives and which do not? (I know Georgia is out, but am wondering about others). If anyone knows, please tell me -- will help with the nail biting.

Earthmother, this is very positive news!!! Just what we needed to hear. So yes, the ballot drive must prevail!!! :Y:

If Gore comes to see that Hillary may not have it in the bag like some think, he may see no other alternative but to get in. That's my concern too - Hillary seems to be losing steam and if that happens, the Repugs will capitalize on that and we don't need another one of them in office!!

Run Al, run!!! :good:

It wouldn't hurt if we all wrote to Gore again (and again) to let him know we aren't by any means done yet. We need to let him know that our support is with him and no one else. We need to let him know what we're doing to get him on the ballot in all these different states, and how he's polling, as a write-in even!

Does anyone have the phone number for his office? We could start a call-in campaign, too. Overwhelm them and make sure they get the point!
Overwhelm in a nice way, of course! :Y:

I'll write yet another letter and send it off today. I'm going to frame it as a response to what he writes in the Rolling Stone interview, basically arguing with him that the change in public consciousness has come.

Exactly - we have to let him know that WE ARE THE SEA CHANGE he's been waiting for! He will push us to the tipping point as soon as he's President! He'll have the army of support that he's been asking for - and we'll be global!

Can you just imagine the amazing changes that will take place over the next 8 years with Gore as our leader!? Talk about an "Age of Enlightenment" - it really will change the world's consciousness!

You guys are getting me excited!! :laugh: I gotta get crackin' on that next letter to Gore...let him know that our energy is stored up and overflowing!!! So he'd better get a move on and run!!! I believe these ballot drives hold the key to our Gore Presidency!! :Y:

Hillary is just a Republican in Democrat's clothing.

Of course the GOP wants her in if they can't get one of their candidates in.

She'll do what Bill did- NOT pursue the criminal activities of the previous administration.

Nothing much will change and that's the way the GOP wants it. After 4 years of her, they may gain control of congress again.

The only thing I see Hillary doing is sending people in droves to a third party alternative, if there is one.

And that works to the GOP's advantage too. :bad:



I hope Gore enters the race and I hope he is able, at last, to see the damage done by NAFTA. Not only in the United States, but other countries as well. He supported NAFTA and helped to get it passed. However, people who are scraping to get by are not going to be able to turn the climate problems around. Surely he has to see that. :?:

For anyone interested in call Al Gore's office to urge him to get in the race, the number is 615-327-2227.

I smell EVIL as well...THAT is why the DEMOCRATS MUST WIN IN 2008! Who to vote for Hillary? Obama?...NONE I have seen has the power of a Nobel Prize Winner....

WE NEED AL GORE....NOW!

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I know Al Gore has the Holy Spirit on his side.

He didn't have it on his side, December 12, 2000. :angry:

As terrible as that outcome was, I have to believe that the Holy Spirit was with Gore. Look what he has accomplished since then....

Yeah, but look at what THIEF Bush has done to the country and to the world in the same time since then. :angry:

Yeah, but I believe that was the work of the devil!!!

Okay, maybe you're right, but WHY did 'GOD' let it happen???? He hates us all or maybe he doesn't exist?????

We all have had disappointments in our lives, but that evil injustice that took place on December 12, 2000 is the one that made me really question the existance of 'GOD.' :( :angry:

Well AGIML, I can understand your questions. I was very disappointed as well. But I believe things happen for a reason. Who knows? If the Draft Gore movement is successful, AND Gore wins the Presidency, that will be a great outcome to this last 8 years of hell.

But hey, I'm not trying to push religion here. JMO. :)

That date marked the fall of our Republic, or as Obi-Wan Kenobi said, "The Dark Times."

Gore will bring balance to the Force!

Makes one wonder why God allowed greedy men to kill others just for oil

Why God allowed Hitler to do what he did.(and in the US, it was ignored for years til finally something was done(people back then probably thought in the US it was a conspiracy theory too what HItler was doing).
My grandfather, forced out of Austria by Hitler never renounced his being a Jew, however, once he got to America, he never believed there was a God, because God would never have let that happen had there been so.

Lions for Lambs, must see movie, on just this thing.
(also says sort of what I have been lambasted for on this board by some
-Redford in the movie says it is better to fail after trying, then to not try at all for fear it won't happen).