Tomorrow Al Gore fans can look forward to Hillary Clinton winning Michigan, Florida, Georgia and South Carolina. And, in eight days, he goes on 30 Rock and Jay Leno and better have an answer for us.

I hope he does not say something like "I could be president of the United States but I would rather give that opportunity to Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani because they are such fine leaders on foreign policy and environmental issues."

(I've edited this so as not to be a complete downer).

I hope like hell none of that comes true. :(

I have 2 questions

Al Gore was born to be President
John Conyers was born to impeach a president

They are both at the top of where they should be
They both can live their dream in an instant, all it takes is one sentence, or one word and both events can start happening

Yet, for some unknown reason, both haven't, didn't do it

WHY?
Why in God's name haven't they done what they were pre-destined to do?
What stopped them?
Is the threat of what will happen so unbearable, that they are doing us a favor by not doing what should have been done?
What is that threat?
What could be so threatening, so dire, that two of the brightest, most apt people, back off doing what needed to be done? (and there is still time to do it)...

Delegates from Michigan and Florida will likely not be counted due to both states moving up their primaries against DNC rules. If Gore enters the race late, he'll spot the other contenders a few states (Georgia, SC, NH, Illinois?). So he's going to have to make up his mind soon.

What do Jerry Brown, Gary Hart, Ted Kennedy and others have in common?
They either got in late, or caught fire late, but in all cases, it was too late.

The rules being what they are, once someone does not get those delegates, they can't later steal them (andlast thing Al Gore would want was to be accused of stealing anything being that 2000 was stolen from him

With approx. 4100 total delegates, 600-800 superdelegates included in that total many in Hillary's pocket already, the mathematical equation of the remaining delegates means not only just winning, but getting a landslide
(If someone already has, say 20 percent needed, then of the remaining 80 percent, one needs such a large # to make it impossible with 3 viable candidates(Gore,Hillary,Obama) and a forth hangeroner- Edwards too for that matter

I'll be honest: I am mad as Hell at him. EarthMother said it earlier: saying you "have no intentions" immediately followed by a statement that you "have not ruled it out" is not good enough, not when you have legions of people whose blood, sweat and tears have been spent on your behalf. It's not good enough and frankly smacks of the double talk and euqivocation and pandering and flip flopping he claims to want to eradicate from the political process. Meanwhile, all that bood, sweat and tears could have been devoted to something other than his "non-campaign." It's really quite disgusting and unbecoming of Nobel Peace prize winner and someone who claims that we are on the brink of a planetary catastrophe. If so, why not tell all of these people, "Hey, I am not running, period, and your time and energy would be better spent mobilizing on the GW issues." No. We get nothing. It's wrong, and I cannot defend it. Now, I am writing this under the assumption he's not running -- if he is, I'll gladly fall on my sword. Sometimes people have an epiphany about their spouse that leads to a divorce. You just wake up one day and think, "I see her differently than I used to." Well, I am starting to really question him. I am mad. I am hurt. He knows what's it's like from 2000 to be left dangling. Why would he revisit that on us? He is not only going to be ceding this country to four and likely eight more years of Republican rule, he will have sucked us dry over the last several months to boot. And, when he carps about the Giuliani administartions GW policies, I'll be the first to say, "you had the power to prevent this."

I'm trying very hard to remain calm and optimistic, but I'm beginning to feel like I'm the last to know something here. Has the plug been pulled?

Why is the petition stuck and why can't I find out about the Iowa rally? :?: :unsure:

Apparently there is still some kick left in the old mule. ;) Hillary's "hiccup" and her candidacy starting to erode may just be what Gore is looking for as the best time to declare his obligation to step into American Presidential Politics.

A Day without General Sherman is a good day. It's November 1st 2007 in most of the country and General Sherman still hasn't appeared. Hmmm...




October 31, 2007

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Correction: Delegates from FL and MI are likely not to count because the DNC CHOSE to take away the delegates as a draconian punishment for the violation of this archaic, STUPID rule by the REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED legislature of FL, which moved the primary date to one WEEK before it was allowed to be. Make no mistake about whose fault it is that the delegates likely won't be seated: It is the fault of Howard Dean and the DNC, no one else. In fact, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm starting to think it was a good and important act in the great tradition of creative non-violent civil disobedience that FL and MI did violate the primary rules because the primary system is broken, unfair, archaic, ridiculous, arbitrary, and in serious need of tweaking to make it a much fairer process. Since neither party was willing to move off a dime toward that, I'm GLAD FL and MI et al. are now forcing the issue.

Anyway, I feel that, if the delegates are not counted, don't blame the states who violated the archaic rule. I am a big believer in rules and in working with the system to change things...but there sometimes, in some situations, comes a time for a different approach. And even if some people understandably disagree with me there and feel that the rule should not have been violated and that punishment needed to be exacted, make no mistake about it: the DNC did NOT have to choose THAT specific punishment of yanking away the 210 delegates from one of the most diverse, important swing states in the union, containing over four million INNOCENT registered Democratic voters (I'm speaking of Florida here--that is not even mentioning Michigan, which contains many more loyal Democrats being disenfranchised). This is Dean and the DNC's fault, this is their CHOICE, period.

:angry: :bad: :!:

I will be honest: I'm very upset with comments like that, not to pick on you, because you are certainly not the only one expressing that type of comment, I've been noticing that sentiment all day as I surf this board. No one will be more crushed that I if Gore chooses not to run, but it won't make me respect or admire him one ounce less, and it won't make me angry with him, either. I've read another poster saying repeatedly that "he won't be the person I thought he was" if he doesn't run and he is "letting us down", etc. And now I see you saying you are angry. While I appreciate people honestly expressing what they are feeling and I could never fault anyone for doing that, it dismays me greatly that some of my fellow Gore supporters are feeling that way. If he chooses not to run, he has his reasons and we, in my humble opinion, have to respect that. We do NOT have to like it, we do not have to agree that it was the right choice, but we have to respect his decision, precisely because it is his decision to make, not ours. Am I saying we should in any way slow or stop the effort to convince him to run? HELL NO! Now is the time when we need to amp up our efforts to a Herculean level, my friends! But let's focus on the substantive reasons we feel he should run and not have all the comments trying to make him feel guilty if he makes the other, to us inconceivable and, frankly, unbearable choice. It is his choice, not ours. Personally, no matter what Al Gore decides to do, I will respect it and continue to greatly admire him as much as ever. I will be awfully dismayed and upset--but not with Al Gore. The decision to run for president is an awesome one and one that only the potential candidate can make. We can certainly let him know how much we hope he will run, and all the reasons why. But I would like not to see all the comments to the tune of, "if he doesn't run, he's not the man I thought he was", which was one I saw today elsewhere in the forum. If he feels he can serve better in another capacity, we have to respect and accept that, peeps. We can be heartbroken, for sure. I know I will be. But I will still wake up the next day respecting and admiring Al Gore as much as ever.

That said: Run, Al, RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have I mentioned that the country, the world, and the planet needs your unique leadership now more than ever? (Answer Key: yes, you have, hangingchad, only about a googleplex times!) Because it bears repeating: we need you, Al Gore!!!! No matter what you choose, I will respect it and I hope we all will, but oh how we are all deeply hoping that you will choose to run!

I disagree.

If he doesn't run, it matters little if we respect him or not, as he chose not to respect his fellow Americans.

You may idolize him, as others here do, some don't...

I don't idolize him.
I want him to speak for me by running.
He is not a God, he is not a sex symbol movie star to be idolized.

He is a person, no better, no worse than any of us.
If he wasn't a politician, we never would have heard of him in the first place.

In essence, we voted him in to his positions(we being the Americans, not specifically you or I as I don't live in Tennessee), but I voted for him for VP twice
and for President TWICE in the primaries-I wrote his name in 2004, you may not know that, I did not vote for Kerry in the primary (as the NJ one didn't matter anyhow)...
I voted for Al Gore

to speak for me. Not to rule over me.
Stop idolizing politicians, they are our equals, not above or below us(well, Bush is below us).

It is this idolizing that gets us in trouble, much as thinking they are our friends.
They are not.

And if he doesn't run and is out of the public eye, do you think he gives a hoot whether we respect him or not? What difference does it make?
He respects us by running. He disrespects us if he says Hillary is fine by him.
The choice is now his

And people have a right to not appreciate him making the wrong choice, because it just makes us beholden then to Hillary.As she is going to win if he doesn't run. No one else will win. It's either her or Al.

I personally would respect him if he did run, then lost, but not if he throws in the towel and tells us all basically to go to Hell, which is what Hillary or Rudy will be.
Or it leads to Jeb in 12 or 16.

Hangingchad, everyone "grieves" differently and I believe that we are well within our rights to feel the way we are feeling. Of course, I will always respect and admire Al Gore, but I will also be disappointed in "what might have been". I believe this to be a very critical time in our history. I really do believe our Democracy and freedom are at stake. We are losing our respect from other countries. We are in the mist of a terrible war. Lives are being lost every day.

Yes, it is his choice to decide whether he wants to run or not, and if he doesn't, I could understand that he doesn't want to get back in this "toxic" system. But so much is riding on this.

I think what a lot of people are having trouble with is his lack of a clear statement. I would have been fine if he said "No, I'm not running. I am involved in the climate crisis situation." But he has consistently given mixed signals and he knows how much energy, time, and money people have poured into getting him to run. I don't think it is too much to ask for a definitive answer. Give us a Sherman statement and let us move on.

As for drafting him, I'm all for still doing it. I don't plan to give up until there is nothing left to fight for. I have wondered if Al just wants to see how hard we would fight for him - or if he is drafted, then he wouldn't have to worry about others accusing him of using the climate crisis for political gain. Who knows what is going thru his mind but I'm all for hanging tight and moving forward. Just don't frown upon us for how we feel. We are only human.

My sentiments exactly. My anger is not based not on the fact that he would not run, but the fact that he would not give us a clear answer as he did in 2002 and would allow us to possibly waste our precious time, money, energy, emotions, etc. That's just wrong. I cannot justify it.

I just hope Al speaks out one way or the other soon. Everything I have read about him and what a caring person he is doesn't lead me to believe he would want us frustrated and hurt like this. There has to be a reason we just don't know it yet.

When Chance the Gardener said he liked to watch tv, people knew he meant alot more than that, but he didn't
He just liked to watch TV (peter sellers in being there)

7 days until Chance the Gardener write-in campaign begins.

Yes he is and yes he is. I DO idolize him, why not, he's an awesome hunk with intelligence and integrity like no other and I mean NO other. The world will never be perfect, but it would be a hell of alot better with AL GORE as our president.

I'm not trying to start an argument, but when you say he is "no better" "than any of us," does that include BUSH????? :?:

I mean the average mortal man
I mean US-as in those posting on this board.
He is our "elected voice"
and you know it

The founding fathers meant for the elected leaders to be regular people
Not Kings, Not Gods, Not Queens, Not dictators, just average mortal men
US as in USA
Bush is not US, he is not in the best interest of the USA
Bush is anti-constitutionalist
Gore is pro-constitution

The world will be a helleva lot better with Gore in office, and Bush repudiated with no Bush or Clinton ever again in any position of power or within ear distance of the power (NO lobbyists no matter who it is).
But he is not God.
(like those boards for entertainers where they all bow down to whoever their star is...sorry, part of the problem is we started to idolize these people like rock stars
(Bill Clinton did that...)

Do you know-before Bill Clinton, NO president ever signed autographs to the mass public while in office? It was a no-no. Unless you were priviledged, you did not do that. It was beneath the concept of a president as they were not movie stars.
(much like writer Stephen King don't like signing pictures...he says he is an author, and likes to sign books, though he will as he is not rude).
Bill Clinton and then W made autographs part of the show
They gave access to people, signed their name, made people think of them like they were a movie star
Changed the perception
Forget the message, long as they get an autograph, look at W, he is your best friend, you can have a bar-b-que with him (yeah right, that was lies too)

Maybe it was Gorby jumping out of his limo and shaking hands in the crowd during the motorcade ride
Pump the handshakes, sign the autographs, get them to idolize you, then all you do is great, no matter what it is (like Bush does to his supporters, if there really are any)

How many people idolized Nixon? Eisenhower? LBJ?
How many people actually got access to JFK or RFK?
Very few.
Dumb it down now.

But, you are quite entitled to your opinion, this is America(for a little while longer)...if Gore don't run, IMHO of course, it won't be by the end of the next person's run...

Gosh I hate these defeatist threads.....buck up guys, Al has plans....who knows if they coincide with ours, but it certainly isn't the time to say something you may regret...chalk it up to being tired of waiting or the uncertainty of it all, but there are so many people here and across the world who share our feelings.

As John Nichols put it: "can Gore resist? Probably"...."Should Gore resist ? Absolutely not."

I hope that Al is somewhat cognizant of his position historically.....because there has never been a better natural alignment for him than now. Sometimes it's necessary for others, however, to reveal the real talents that someone possesses because it's hard to fully know what we are capable of and how we are regarded.

Gore/Feingold 08 or bust!

We're waiting for you Al

I have to agree with the comment about the defeatist threads. :wacko: What's the point of whining that Gore hasn't done what we want when we want it? This site exists to support Al Gore, not to threaten to hold our breath, stomp our feet and call him names until he declares his candidacy.

Six days until Al tells us whether he is for or against defeatist threads. :P

ReelectAlGore2008, I want to respond to several things you've said:

If Al Gore chooses not to run for president, it does NOT--repeat, does NOT--translate into meaning that he doesn't respect his fellow Americans. Obviously, you are just going to be angry with him if he doesn't choose to run. My view is that that is unfair to him. Again, the choice of whether to run for president is an awesome decision. There are many "pro's" in the pro column for Al Gore running, God knows everyone on this board feels that way. But he might feel there are some "con's" in the other column, and he may conclude that they outweigh the pro's. He may feel and think that he could better serve right now in another capacity. You and I and everyone in this cybercommunity may disagree with that conclusion, but we have to respect it because it is his choice, not ours. If he makes that choice, I will be greatly dismayed, but I will still respect Al Gore as much as ever. If he choses that, he has his reasons, and I'm sure they all have to do with doing what HE feels is best to serve the causes he feels most passionately about and that he feels are crucial and most important at this time. I think being president would put him in a totally unique position of power with which to serve those causes, but he may conclude that he can better serve them and us another way right now. That is no one's decision to make but his, and I think it shows disrespect towards him for you to say that, if that is ultimately the choice he makes, he is "choosing not to respect his fellow Americans". That is an assumption you are making, but you don't know his reasoning. In my opinion, if you respect Al Gore as much as you say you do, you will respect his reasoning on this most profound decision.

As others have pointed out to you, no one here is "idolizing" Gore. Speaking for myself, he is a hero of mine. I greatly respect and admire him. However, "idolizing" isn't what is going on here. The respect and admiration folks in "the Gore community" have for him is earned. And just because we go on respecting him when he makes a decision that YOU don't agree with, does not mean we are blindly idolizing the man. Just because we go on respecting him when he makes a decision that WE don't agree with doesn't equate to blind idol worship, either. It equates to respect which, again, has been quite earned by him over many years. ReelectGore, if he doesn't choose to run, we will all be dismayed and heartbroken, and very concerned for our country and planet. But it isn't our choice to make. And I, for one will certainly respect his decision, whichever way it goes, because I respect the man and trust (which has been earned) that he is going to do what he thinks is best for serving the greater good.

Don't you think there are other ways he could respect us? You are making everything so cut and dry, so black and white. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but my opinion is that you must not have had much respect for him in the first place if you are going to be totally disgusted if he doesn't run, and make so many assumptions about the decision when, again, you are not privy to his reasoning. Don't get me wrong, to quote Bill Clinton, I feel your pain. Trust me, I do. I get it. But I guess I just have come to respect and admire him so much over the years that I do trust his reasoning, intelligence, vision, brilliance, and dedication to service. So whatever he choses, I know it will be what he feels is best for the greater good. It might not be what you or I feel is best, but isn't it his decision?

ReelectGore, he is NOT telling us to "go to Hell". I'm so saddened that you feel that way. I hope that isn't a common sentiment in this community of Gore supporters. I truly believe that whatever he decides, it is based on doing what he feels will serve the greater good most effectively at this time.

Reply to TexanforGore:

Oh, absolutely. Everyone has the absolute right to feel just what they feel. Furthermore, feelings are not necessarily rational beasts or fair beasts, but they are always, in my opinion, to be accepted. It is only our ACTIONS that should ever be subject to judgement by others. Indeed we do all grieve in our own way and, if Gore doesn't run, "grieving" is an accurate term for what we will go through. I myself am currently in the "denial" stage of my grief, as even though the hour is growing very, very late for tossing one's hat in the ring, I am not yet ready or able to even entertain the thought that he won't run. I mean, that is how griefstricken I know I will personally be. I honestly can't even allow myself to think about it just yet. So I get it, and I am totally with you on the "what might have been" grieving front. But my whole point is, absolutely, everyone go ahead and feel WHATEVER it is you feel, even if that includes the unfortunate--imho--things I'm reading from people who are actually feeling angry at Gore and/or betrayed or whatever. But just try and realize, is my point, that he isn't doing whatever he decides to do to let anyone down or to drop the ball or anything of the sort. Al Gore is going to do whatever Al Gore feels is best to serve his country and the planet. That's the way he is wired. And I respect that, that's all I am trying to say. I think we all should respect that and thus, logically, respect his decision...even if, at the same time as we are doing that, the decision is dismaying us, disappointing us, KILLING US (not to put too fine a point on it!), breaking our hearts, ETC. We can and naturally will feel all of that. But at the end of the day, if you respect Al Gore, shouldn't you respect that he is going to do what he feels is best and therefore he is NOT, as some have said, "disrespecting us" or betraying us or anything of the sort. Anyone who respects Gore should know, first and foremost, that the man is all about service. He would never "betray" that. He is totally passionate about global climate change, he sees the urgency of that. I think he will do what he thinks is best at this time to enable him to effectively use his power in this world to turn that around. I think and you think and we all think that the presidency of the USA would be the best way to do that right now. He may not. The disparity there between the two viewpoints does not equate to betrayal or disrespect--it just equates to two different ideas on what the best choice to make at this time is.

Duuuuude, I know. You are sooooo preaching to the choir. TRUST ME: if I sound like I will be totally fine and dandy if he chooses not to run, let me assure you that it is fairly likely that I will have a complete and total nervous breakdown! But I won't feel betrayed or disrespected.

Fair enough. ...But maybe he hasn't said that because he IS going to run!!!!! Or maybe he hasn't said it because he, frankly, was 99.999999% sure he isn't going to run, yet he was not totally sure. So, he hasn't ruled it out yet. At any rate, it is maddening and hair-tearing-out-worthy to all of us, but again, it is not something I'm irked with him over.

You know what, everyone? I think we are all understandably just VERY frustrated right now and, unfortunately, some of y'all are turning/training your dismay onto the wrong target, imho.

I would never, ever tell anyone how they should feel. I happen to believe strongly, like I said earlier in the post, that feelings are feelings and, like the ocean tides, they are a natural force to be accepted and allowed to flow as they will. Only our actions are judgeable. So, feel anything you feel, guys, but if one of those things is some sense of being betrayed or let down by Gore, just try to remember one of the things we all respect and admire most about him: his integrity and dedication to serving the greater good. You know that is fundamental to his nature, right? So therefore, whatever decision he makes, he believes it is for the best.

Word! I agree, Marla.

Double word with a non-GMO cherry on top! Translation: I TOTALLY agree! And not only have the stars lined up like never before, but the planet needs his unique, specific self to lead us to a greener, sustainable future. What I would like to say to Al Gore if I could is, you have done an absolutely amazing, stunning amount as Private Citizen Gore for climate change, and you can continue doing that 8 years from now, but right NOW, get into the White House where you can really effect change on that issue (just to name one issue - the most important one), because it can't wait 8 years or 4 years or 1 year. We need to turn this thing around now. Even just raising the MPG standard so that within two years every new vehicle sold in the US of A would have to get a minimum of, say, 40 mpg would be a great place to start. No other candidate has doing anything like that on their radar screen until 2016 or 2107 (only two are even saying they would put that in place for that far out in the future). The polar ice caps are melting now. This is when we need action. Gore knows this more than anyone. I say he is going to get in!

I may be in complete denial, but it is so nice here! I'm going to stay a while.

Seriously, God knows he just has to run. Nothing less than the survival of the planet is at stake. I think that, I believe it deeply. But even so, IF he decides not to run, I also believe deeply that it will only be because he believes that he can serve the cause of turning things around for humanity and the planet better in other ways. I don't think so myself, but thar ya go: I'm not the one that gets to decide because it isn't me who would have to assume the presidency, clean up Bush's profound, incomprehensible mess in terms of the economy, Iraq, the constitution, our reputation in the world, ETC. Maybe Gore feels that all of that would take time and energy away from what he feels is most urgent now: turning around global climate change. Personally, I feel he could juggle it all. If there has ever been someone with seemingly limitless, tireless energy and the ability to "multi-task", it is our Al Gore! That said, though, it would only take another 9/11 or something to demand 100% of the President's attention for God knows how long and then Gore's passion of reversing climate change would suffer in terms of where his time, energy, vision and brilliance would go, or so he may be thinking. I say, RUN ANYWAY. But it is up to him, obviously.

Hangingchad, I understand what you're saying. By the way, I am a Dudette, not a Dude, lol.

Anyway, I think some of us here are just a little frazzled. I know I am.

But my gut tells me that Al has been saying he won't rule it out because he really is considering every aspect of it. I believe he truly has been mulling it over these past few months. Of course, I wouldn't blame him if he'd just been saying that to piss off the media, lol. :laugh: But I also know he wouldn't act that way out of spite. Though it'd be hard for me to resist if I were in his shoes.

Anyway, his lack of a Sherman statement gives me hope. I can't shake the feeling that something is amist. It may turn out to be nothing and we may all be sent to the rubber room, but I won't worry about that now. :wacko:

If it turns out he never had any intention of running, I'll probably initially feel disappointed and yes, a tad exploited. But I'll get over it because in the end, I'll respect his decision that he knows what's best for him. I'll just be in the predicament of whether to vote or not when I'm not thrilled about any of the other candidates, but oh well, I'll cross that bridge if/when we get there. :unsure:

To TexanforGore:

I just meant "dude" in the gender-neutral slang/pop sense that is best illustrated by how one of my fave characters on "LOST" (my fave TV show EVER!), Hurley, uses it! Namely, sort of a friendly, familiar greeting and/or expression of "I'm feeling that/you". Actually, that word can have many meanings depending on the context *LOL*, but my meaning was basically "I hear that, buddy (or budette!)".
:wub: :lol:

Exactly. That's my take on the situation, too. We are all starting to FREAK OUT just a tad. I know I sure am. And as soon as this denial thing I'm in is forced out of existence by the passage of just a little more time, I'm going to be inconsolable, among other things.

I think so, too! I truly still think there is a chance he is going to RUN. With every passing day, logically, the chance seems more distant and impossible, yet I just ...everything I know about Gore or think I know about Gore tells me: he is seriously considering running!

It's all fine and good hanging chad except the following

There is NO nice scenerio to play out if Al Gore don't run

IMHO we are doomed with Hillary, Rudy or just about anyone else, and IMHO it will lead to Jeb being the final American president in either 2012 and 2016 (unless Jeb decides to go for it now in a bruising race he might just win.)

So either Al runs and wins, or we are doomed.
Ain't no other in between thing. I am not optomistic that anyone else will accomplish anything at all. Zero chance IMHO


edit to add: YES, I actually believe the above. I believe we are nearing the end of life in America as we knew it if Al Gore doesn't run, because HIllary will NOT roll back the Patriot Act, the end of the war, and using torture.
The corporate/Fascist/war machine will continue, and Hillary will IMHO sweep all the dirt under the rug.
We are doomed.

Maybe that is why I equate some of this harsher than others here, because I am that pessimistic.

To ReelectAlGore2008:

*shudder* You know what gives me a chill about that statement is, a while back, I watched this CHILLING thing on the History Channel (I myself am the only remaining American without cable TV, but I saw this at my mom's) and, long story short, it went into a whole big thing about how the ancient Mayan calendar seems to indicate that 2012 will be, basically, the end of the world. Meanwhile, the i-Ching ALSO apparently says that 2012 is when the end of the world will be, and the Hopis (I think it was the Hopis) also say that a major shifting will take place at around that time, AND meanwhile somehow there are scientific indicators that--and I forget what the phrase is for this, but the phenomenon has a name--the two poles will somehow shift and, basically, once again, when we bottom line this thing: 2012--BAD! It just totally crept me out and since seeing it (that show on the History Channel), I can't seem to get it out of my mind that the world will end in 2012--see, and you think YOU are pessimistic *LOL*! The fact of how fast global climate change is happening just seems to go hand in hand with the whole 2012 doomsday SITUATION.

Meanwhile, I agree with Gore that global climate change is a moral issue and that it is our moral obligation to do everything we can to start treating the earth which sustains us with RESPECT, thus hopefully sustaining it. If 2012 is somehow fated to be the END, so be it. But that doesn't mean we can't and/or shouldn't try like heck to turn things around while we have the chance. No matter what happens, we owe the earth that respect. We have been violent citizens of earth, violating all her limits, for far too long. The environment is very forgiving, but there are limits. As Gore said in "An Inconvenient Truth", at a certain point, it hit him with an intense clarity that, my God, "we could lose this". We could go to a point of no return and wreck the earth, or at least, wreck our shot at living here/surviving as a species. I see the moral obligation clearly. To me, going green, being green, is all about respect. It is so simple: respect. Respect for creation, nature. That is all we are asked to do. Hopefully, it is not too late, if we begin to practice a new (yet ancient) way of behaving in respect and harmony with nature, to turn things around. But in any event, it is our moral obligation to go that route, to become the respectful species we are capable of being. We have the potential, as a species, for great evil and for great good. Let's go the way of great good. Again, it is all about respect.

And, as you can see from the above post, I certainly and clearly do see the importance of Gore running for president right now, in 2008. Yet if HE doesn't think it is the way to go, I have to respect that, much as it dismays me. ...I still say he will get into the race. Either I'm totally delusional, in denial, and/or a keener observer and understander of Al Gore than all the pundits who insist he won't run put together, but anyway, I say he gets in.

Well, spoken HC...if Al runs, Oh happy day! And we have a lot of work cut out for us. If he doesn't run, it'll be a sad day, but we still have all that work in front of us. It just might be harder. We have no choice really; we have to salvage our Constitution and our Republic.

C'mon Al give us that fighting chance!

5 days until Gore appears on 30Rock and Leno and DraftGore continues to refuse to take NO for an answer.

We in support of Draft Gore have more than five days. It will continue until he is no longer with us.