Title: Where is Al Gore?
Description: Al Gore's Silence
gore for president - October 30, 2007 02:00 AM (GMT)
Since Al won the Nobel Peace Prize on October 12 he has not spoken to the United States news media. He has only given interviews overseas.
He has not issued any statement pro or con on the Draft Gore movement? But he refuses to stop it? Al has been extremely quiet recently. Why?
He knows over 219,000 have signed the Draft Gore petition. He knows he is within 5% of Hillary in a new CBS poll. He leads the DFA poll online with a write-in.
We want Al to run for President and Al is fighting to save the earth from Global warming. I think Al hoped another of the Democratic candidates would take on Global warming. It has not happened. I think his silence means he is thinking about running.
Al is smart and knows that it will be a very hard fight to defeat Hillary. Im sure Al would defeat Hillary, but Al does not want to split the Democratic party in doing so.
My personal opinion is that a write-in campaign in New Hampshire led by the Draft Gore movement would succeed and give Al a reason to get in. I think Al could get 20% as a write in New Hampshire.
Being from New Hampshire over the last two weeks I have had the Edwards and Obama people canvass the house. I have told them Im waiting for Gore to decide if he will run. They tell me many other people they canvass say the same thing. Many undecided in New Hampshire.
I think we can Draft Al in New Hampshire with a successful write in campaign. New Hampshire should be ground zero for the next two months.
gore for president :good: :Y:
TNblue - October 30, 2007 02:37 AM (GMT)
Yes, where IS Gore? I rely too heavily on the other folks here to keep me up to date on his whereabouts. I feel like the media put a huge damper on the draft effort soon after he won the Nobel, now people are losing hope and giving up. Guess I'm not getting the hint. I need an unambiguous statement first.
Good luck in New Hampshire!! I'm pulling for ya!
earthmother - October 30, 2007 03:15 AM (GMT)
Here's the latest from New Hampshire, for those who are interested:
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24 October 2007
Loyal Gore Supporters:
I can appreciate the dismay of many about Al Gore's seeming reluctance to become a presidential candidate.
But I have maintained for many months that the NH Primary is where VOTERS, (not polls, not pundits, not lobbyists, not special interest groups) will ultimately influence AG's decision. With or without his active approval, independent-minded NH voters are going to help him decide, once and for all.
To get votes in NH, Gore does not have to campaign, spend money or make visits. He already has extraordinarily high name recognition. Polls show him between 8-32% of the NH primary vote. Last week's CBS poll, amid ambiguous signals from Gore himself, still shows him to be the favorite of nearly a third of national voters.
The goal of Draft Gore New Hampshire is to transform consistently good poll numbers into votes on NH Primary Day (December 11 or January 8).
A strong showing by Gore in NH (15% of the votes cast) could rekindle his own interest in the presidency. With an effective, necessarily brief, local write-in campaign, Gore could place just behind HRC or a close third place behind one of the Seven Dwarfs.
Make no mistake, Gore is a veteran campaigner. He knows the risks and the expense of a primary campaign and the costs to him personally. So, a CREDIBLE show of material support by VOTERS is critical to persuading Gore to reconsider.
The most persuasive poll of all is the tally of votes on the night of New Hampshire Primary Day. The goal, frankly, is to show Gore himself that the Clintons are not inevitable, not invincible and that Clinton can be slowed down long enough for other states to rally their own forces.
To understand why New Hampshire is so critical to Clinton, read EJ Dionne's opinion piece: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/25/AR2007102502215.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)
Let me be painfully blunt: no more online signature drives, no more bleating blogs, no more handwringing.
It's time to ACT and to CONTRIBUTE to the write-in effort in New Hampshire.
And that's where Draft Gore New Hampshire and dedicated volunteers like yourself can help.
If you are still committed to a Gore candidacy and are willing to work in NH for a few days and/or contribute $$$ to a write-in campaign effort, send me an email (farrell@DraftGoreNH.com). I'll explain how the NH Primary can begin to turn the tide in Gore's favor.
Start by reading the analysis below. Let me have your ideas, suggestions, comments.
Please send your checks to: Draft New Hampshire, PO Box 463, Littleton, NH 03561.
--Farrell S.
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earthmother - October 30, 2007 03:17 AM (GMT)
And to address the issue of Gore's silence . . . we, too, are wondering where he is and what he's doing. He does seem to be avoiding the U.S. press. Difficult to read what's going on . . .
Texan for Gore - October 30, 2007 03:26 AM (GMT)
Thanks, Earthmother, for the information. It sounds exciting. There are a lot of hard-working people out there and I believe they can do it!! :clap: :good: :Y:
TNblue - October 30, 2007 04:12 AM (GMT)
Thank you, Earthmother. I needed a little bit of something.
valadon245 - October 30, 2007 04:39 AM (GMT)
Silence is golden....take a moment to pause yourself and see what you feel in your heart of hearts.....then trust that feeling it may be the most genuine.
with loving thoughts to Al......... ;)
NastyDiaper - October 30, 2007 05:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (earthmother @ Oct 29 2007, 09:17 PM)
And to address the issue of Gore's silence . . . we, too, are wondering where he is and what he's doing. He does seem to be avoiding the U.S. press. Difficult to read what's going on . . .
I wish the NH write-in effort well. DFA proved they can work at a national level.
But my hopes rest on the chance that Al Gore knows 11/2 is a very significant date. I understand that voters know the candidate so the following is not wholly accurate for Al Gore. But I'll say it anyway:
If you want to run for president, you need to fill out the NH form. You don't have to be a 600 day candidate, but you do need to be a 367 day candidate.
Throughout this whole effort, Al Gore has always said that he has not decided to run. No plans. The decision has not been made. I sense that he's been graciously pushing aside data, the polls the good letters and the nasty ones. All that toxic stuff we've been pouring over. He's simply not been looking at it, waiting until the last moment to do so.
I'm hoping Al Gore is right now reviewing the data. It's a damn good read, all things considered.
ALGOREismylife - October 30, 2007 05:42 PM (GMT)
Maybe he's taking a well deserved rest. He was in several different cities overseas in less than a week. I know the waiting is hell, I hate it but we have to be patient. Let him enjoy some peace and quiet it that is what he's doing.
NastyDiaper - October 30, 2007 06:01 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ALGOREismylife @ Oct 30 2007, 11:42 AM) |
| Maybe he's taking a well deserved rest. He was in several different cities overseas in less than a week. I know the waiting is hell, I hate it but we have to be patient. Let him enjoy some peace and quiet it that is what he's doing. |
Agreed. I doubt very much that "11/2 (NHPRI REG): DECIDE TO POTUS" is something on Gore's outlook calender :). But I still read this downtime potential positive.
IanOC - October 31, 2007 12:05 AM (GMT)
Gore has been travelling abroad for the last week or so. He is not paying much attention to U.S. presidential politics, but focusing on climate change issues. I'm pretty sure that Al is "silent" because he has already said he is not running for president, over and over and over again. I have concluded that "I have no plans to run" = "I am not running." There is not a single piece of information that suggests otherwise. I would love to be proved wrong, of course. But Friday, the date for filing in New Hampshire, is the end for me. I'm very disappointed, but you have to look reality in the face sometime.
Ian O'Corrain
www.gore-obama2008.blogspot.com
Jonathan Pollard - October 31, 2007 08:03 AM (GMT)
For me the end is Nov. 1 which is the deadline for the South Carolina and Georgia primaries. Which makes the effective end today (Oct. 31) which is the date that he will have to overnight mail his registration for those primaries unless he plans to personally go to both of those states on Nov. 1 to register which I think is highly unlikely.
Wayne in WA State - October 31, 2007 08:50 AM (GMT)
The members of this forum are not about quitting, we're about persevering. General Sherman hasn't directly thumped us upside the head yet. But as I ponder things tonight, it does not appear that Al Gore is going to declare that he's a candidate for President in the upcoming election. I hope he does sometime this week, he could skip the first few primaries and still win, I'm pretty sure. But just supposing he does not... forgive my speculation..
Al Gore has already won. He has made a comeback like no other in recent American history. Where lesser men would be bitter and retreat from public life after his experience in 2000, Al Gore has become more relevant than ever. How many people come to personally lead the world to awareness of an issue like the Climate Crisis? :?:
I'm sure he must be thinking about what would happen if he became a political candidate again. There would be a risk that all his hard work of raising awareness about global warming would be seen as some kind of political chess game to further his presidential ambitions.
Am I trying to rationalize an outcome very different from what we have devoted years trying to achieve? Yep, probably so.
In the end, Gore needs to decide on the basis of what he understands to be best choice for America and for the world, not necessarily what will make us happy.
Whatever the result, I feel totally at peace in supporting Al Gore and grateful to have the opportunity to get to know all the wonderful friends I've come to know at this forum.
:Y:
ReElectAlGore2008 - October 31, 2007 09:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Oct 31 2007, 04:50 AM) |
The members of this forum are not about quitting, we're about persevering. General Sherman hasn't directly thumped us upside the head yet. But as I ponder things tonight, it does not appear that Al Gore is going to declare that he's a candidate for President in the upcoming election. I hope he does sometime this week, he could skip the first few primaries and still win, I'm pretty sure. But just supposing he does not... forgive my speculation..
Al Gore has already won. He has made a comeback like no other in recent American history. Where lesser men would be bitter and retreat from public life after his experience in 2000, Al Gore has become more relevant than ever. How many people come to personally lead the world to awareness of an issue like the Climate Crisis? :?:
I'm sure he must be thinking about what would happen if he became a political candidate again. There would be a risk that all his hard work of raising awareness about global warming would be seen as some kind of political chess game to further his presidential ambitions.
Am I trying to rationalize an outcome very different from what we have devoted years trying to achieve? Yep, probably so.
In the end, Gore needs to decide on the basis of what he understands to be best choice for America and for the world, not necessarily what will make us happy.
Whatever the result, I feel totally at peace in supporting Al Gore and grateful to have the opportunity to get to know all the wonderful friends I've come to know at this forum.
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Sorry, I disagree with you.
If he doesn't run, it was all for naught.
Unless he is part of the power, the next president will do as much as Bush did-which is nothing.
What if Martin Luther King Jr. did not reach the mountaintop he so eloquently spoke of, what if 2 years earlier, he just chucked it all and did not continue his quest?
What if Bobby did not heed the call?
What if there was no protest movment in the 1960s? Would we still be in Vietnam today?
What if Rosa Parks(symbolically as she was not the first, but the one remembered), did not stand her ground?
What if Jesus ran the other way knowing what was coming?
I don't see how one can call it a victory.
It's personal awards and such, but that doesn't do the rest of the world that is being destroyed any good, if the next President does as much as bush did to ruin it.
And sorry folks, I am not a Clinton fan, and I do not believe a Hillary administration without Gore right next to her 24/7/365 will roll anything Bush has done back. She has done nothing to indicate she will. And if Gore doesn't run, it means Hillary is inevitable, and it means Gore feels he can live with her doing nothing to roll anything Bush has done back.
And that is losing, not winning, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, which is why, when all you others go off this week and leave, I will still be calling for Al to run third party
And while I am happy to have made some friends, I did not come here to make friends, I came here to hope Al Gore ran for President. In reality, the ones here will have shown they all cared more about bettering this country, in the end, than Al Gore himself did.
(and I don't care if you don't agree with me, I am not looking to be popular).
To Wayne I add a few words to your statemnt-it appears Al is NOT jumping into the race and declare as a Democrat. That does not to me say he is not going to jump in some other way, hence no Sherman statement, just all the deadlines passing...
BTW- is Mario Cuomo's jet still all fueled up and waiting on the tarmac as it was in 1992? Shades of what we lost in the 16 years since the last time a sure thing left a plane running and didn't hop aboard it.
Wayne in WA State - October 31, 2007 09:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Oct 31 2007, 03:04 AM) |
Sorry, I disagree with you.
If he doesn't run, it was all for naught. Unless he is part of the power, the next president will do as much as Bush did-which is nothing.
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This wouldn't be an interesting place if everyone agreed with me, would it? :lol:
Martin Luther King Jr., Jesus, Rosa Parks; they did not seek high political office. And yet we remember them. There lives were not for naught. I feel Al Gore has earned a position in the world that I don't quite comprehend yet, but he's going to be a very important man whatever happens.
I hope he runs. I hope he can articulate a platform of healing; healing the planet, healing America, healing the international system, healing our bitter partisan divides. If he chooses to do that in a 3rd party campaign I'm all ears. But I'm from Missouri about that scenario.
ReElectAlGore2008 - October 31, 2007 09:30 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Oct 31 2007, 05:21 AM) |
| QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Oct 31 2007, 03:04 AM) | Sorry, I disagree with you.
If he doesn't run, it was all for naught. Unless he is part of the power, the next president will do as much as Bush did-which is nothing.
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This wouldn't be an interesting place if everyone agreed with me, would it? :lol:
Martin Luther King Jr., Jesus, Rosa Parks; they did not seek high political office. And yet we remember them. There lives were not for naught. I feel Al Gore has earned a position in the world that I don't quite comprehend yet, but he's going to be a very important man whatever happens.
I hope he runs. I hope he can articulate a platform of healing; healing the planet, healing America, healing the international system, healing our bitter partisan divides. If he chooses to do that in a 3rd party campaign I'm all ears. But I'm from Missouri about that scenario.
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We remember Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks because when the call for battle was sounded, they went forward, Rev. King even fortelling what was going to happen, yet he didn't give up, he went forward, and that is why we remember him today as one of the greatest of great Americans ever to live.
Not as a footnote.
You gotta be in it, to win it on all accounts.
Can someone here HONESTLY say, that Al's issue will be dealt with as the #1 concern when any of the pretenders to his throne take office in January 2009?
I don't see it happening (unless he is also on the stage that inauguration day taking an oath of office right next to the new president).
Wayne in WA State - October 31, 2007 09:44 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Oct 31 2007, 03:30 AM) |
We remember Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks because when the call for battle was sounded, they went forward, Rev. King even fortelling what was going to happen, yet he didn't give up, he went forward, and that is why we remember him today as one of the greatest of great Americans ever to live. Not as a footnote.
You gotta be in it, to win it on all accounts. |
When the call for battle was sounded, many implored Dr. King to take up arms and lead the charge to defeat the Klan with rifles and bayonets. He chose a different path. That does not mean to me that he did not have the courage or fortitude to forge ahead. There are multiple levels of carrying on the struggle. I cannot argue against those who wanted to defend their families against the Klan with force. Neither will I argue against the choices Dr. King made.
ReElectAlGore2008 - October 31, 2007 10:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Oct 31 2007, 05:44 AM) |
| QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Oct 31 2007, 03:30 AM) | We remember Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks because when the call for battle was sounded, they went forward, Rev. King even fortelling what was going to happen, yet he didn't give up, he went forward, and that is why we remember him today as one of the greatest of great Americans ever to live. Not as a footnote.
You gotta be in it, to win it on all accounts. |
When the call for battle was sounded, many implored Dr. King to take up arms and lead the charge to defeat the Klan with rifles and bayonets. He chose a different path. That does not mean to me that he did not have the courage or fortitude to forge ahead. There are multiple levels of carrying on the struggle. I cannot argue against those who wanted to defend their families against the Klan with force. Neither will I argue against the choices Dr. King made.
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Well if you are going to go that route, then insert Malcolm X into the equation and say the same thing
And Other (of my) heroes took up the call afterward
Eldridge Cleaver and The Black Panthers, The Chicago 7, Mark Rudd, Abbie Hoffman, etc...all would not have happened had Martin Luther King not taken the route he did
The protest movement would not have been successful if they all gave up
(and some say their later day ennui with what they started led directly to the Yuppies, the allmighty dollar, and not continuing
The only mistake Abbie Hoffman made was (assuming he actually killed himself, some say there are other answers), but saying he did, his biggest mistake was not to keep fighting for us. He is sorely missed.
That is what happens when one doesn't take that next needed step
Wayne in WA State - October 31, 2007 06:56 PM (GMT)
Happy Halloween Yeah, I know this says Edwards 08, but it's scary, isn't it?

:o
NastyDiaper - October 31, 2007 08:00 PM (GMT)
:laugh: @ Scary Times.
As for the more serious stuff, it had to be done. We had to build it.
/staresatcornfield