Why won't Al Gore step up to the plate and run?
Why won't Al Gore step onto the bridge, then with the help of America, cross it?
Why?

In other elections past, candidates even if they thought they really couldn't do it, did it anyhow (some symbolically, like George McGovern's last run), some like Jerry Brown the last time, never thought he could win, but wanted a message campaign, and lo and behold, he almost won in 1992...

Others in the past, like Teddy when he could have won (pre1980 race), and Mario Cuomo, when in 1992 it was his for the asking, just did not do it. (Agian, many theories for those two events, but the election could have been theirs for the taking in 1972 1976 1992
Al Gore in 2004 was another time too
Bill Bradley for NJ Senator after Torticelli backed out a few years ago comes to mind

Why?
Just talking here, what is the real reason...
(no this is not rhetorical, though I have my own thoughts on this)...

ReElectAlGore2008 your question is excellent and one that should have been asked a while back. I read the postings but seldom reply simply because I'm too tired. But this one deserved the strength it would take because I don't have a reasonable answer.

Maybe it's because he knows just how corrupt the entire Government is.

Maybe it's because we as a supposedly united country could allow the droppings from a cow to rule with Satan's footstool in the next seat.

Maybe it's because we allowed the first felon in history to take the seat of President. (They couldn't even vote in Florida)

Because we allowed an alcoholic, business failure and a failure at everything else he has done in his life to run the country. (Well to be fair...Bush may have been a decent cheerleader when he was drunk which appears to be from sun-up to sun-up.)

Maybe it's because we allowed him to not only be elected Governor of Texas but then systematically destroy it and said nothing.

Maybe it's because of the threats he's received against him and his family.

Could be because we allowed cowards who ran from their service duty to berate true hero's who chose to fight instead of hide and go AWOL.

Maybe it's because we abandon true Texas justice, his favorite subject for someone not a true Texan, and didn't chase down Katherine Harris and his brother Jeb and string them up as horse thieves.

Or maybe it's because we, as a free and united people didn't everyone of us march on Florida and demand that we are the one's to elect the President, not some political judges appointed by he's whinny daddy and devil of a mother.

What I do know is that the winner was denied his rightful place in the oval office and still went on to write a number of best sellers, win 2 Oscars, an Emmy, the Noble and after years of talking to brick walls finally got most of the world, with the exception of the really stupid, to see there really is man caused Global warming and this does not count the numerous other awards he has earned.

I know the loser, who was appointed to the office, didn't listen to and even ignored the security experts and reports, it takes too much of his golf or vacation time of which he has taken more than anyone in history.

That he allowed Arab countries control of the major spots that were the beginning points of 9/11 to include security of the trade centers.

That he made the decisions to invade two countries, one which did nothing to us and was no threat. And has resulted in more civilian deaths and people running from their homes than any other President in history.

That he is still Business Partners with the country where most of the hijackers came from and to this day is an open gate to the insurgents and weapons going to the Sunni's in Iraq, but never says a word about it.

He destroyed our civil liberties and is now trying to start World War III before he leaves office, if he does.

He is a thief and refuses to allow us the truth, to which we were allowed by the laws that existed when he took office and he changed them.

I know he is the most hated man in the world and a completely useless individual who would undoubtedly be homeless except for his Daddy and his Daddy's friend's.

I know His hero, Ronald Reagan thought very little of him, bordering on contempt for him.

And I know he lies relentlessly and continuously.

So why won't Al Gore step up to the plate, I don't know? But if he does not intend to run why won't he simply say no?

How often have you heard (in management) that if you're going to bring a problem, then also bring a solution.

Gore has heightened awareness of so many problems that need addressing by writing The Assault on Reason and An Inconvenient Truth. However, though he has put forth some solutions, they won't be implemented UNLESS HE'S IN THE OVAL OFFICE. I fear the momentum he's created will just fizzle and get swept under the rug unless he runs.

Step up to the plate, Al! You "Answer the Call" of the people! (Pleeeeeeeeze) :bow:

Could Gore Be a Contender?

By Bill Boyarsky
10/18/2007

I don’t know Al Gore’s plans, but here’s what I’d tell him to do if he wants to be president: Ignore New Hampshire and Iowa. Hope Hillary fizzles. Bet the house on early February when the big states have their primaries, and he could win the biggest, California.

Something like this almost happened nearly 40 years ago when Robert F. Kennedy became a late entrant in the 1968 presidential primaries. Today, it is only a remote possibility. The nation has changed greatly since then. And Gore is a different man from Kennedy.

Still, it is impossible to avoid thinking about a man who won the popular vote when he ran for president in 2000 but was cheated out of his victory by a Republican-controlled Supreme Court.

Winning the Nobel Peace Prize sparked all the Gore talk, which has also been fanned by a certain reluctance among many Democrats to embrace the current favorite, Clinton, or Barack Obama or John Edwards.

Another plus for Gore is his position on the Iraq war. He warned against the war before it started. On Sept. 23, 2002, he told the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, “ I am deeply concerned that the course of action that we are presently embarking upon with respect to Iraq has the potential to seriously damage our ability to win the war against terrorism and to weaken our ability to lead the world in this new century.”

Of the front-runners, only Obama was that farsighted, while Clinton and Edwards voted in the Senate for the war.

In talking about a possible Gore candidacy, it’s tempting to see some resemblance between this year and 1968. Today we are mired in an unpopular, wrongheaded war led by a president who commands little respect or affection. Standing on the sideline is an articulate political leader who opposed the war while others dithered.

But this is a different America. By 1967 the Vietnam War draft had reached deeply into the middle class. In contrast, a volunteer Army with many young working-class men and women just out of high school is fighting our current war. Today’s war machine impacts only the relatives, friends and neighbors of dead and wounded soldiers. The rest of America doesn’t even have to pay higher taxes to cover the war’s huge costs.

Gore is no Kennedy. Robert Kennedy was afire with passion, a man of the ’60s. Gore is a solid and sensible man, well suited for today’s techno-culture but not a great campaigner. He pulled his punches on the stump, which Robert Kennedy never did.

To visualize a Gore candidacy, you have to throw out everything that is being written or said about the importance of the first two Democratic contests, the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary. First of all, why should we give a damn about them? These two small states are of interest only to their residents and to the political writers who flock there.

Thus Gore should let Clinton, Obama and Edwards damage themselves in these small outposts of democracy. The most important date is Feb. 5, 2008. That’s when the big states, and some small ones, hold primaries. It’s being called “Super Duper Tuesday,” the closest thing we have to a national primary.

They include California, Illinois, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Texas. Also among them are smaller states that are much more reflective of the nation than either Iowa or New Hampshire, including Alabama, Arizona, Connecticut, Kansas, Missouri, Montana and North Carolina.

One of the dilemmas faced by Gore is that he or his supporters would have to take some action before Iowa and New Hampshire. For example, Tuesday, Dec. 4, 2007, is the deadline to enter their delegations for the California primary, although there is some leeway.

Perhaps history is a guide. In 1968, as opposition to the Vietnam War grew, Robert Kennedy could not decide whether to challenge President Lyndon Johnson and Sen. Eugene McCarthy, the leading anti-war candidate, who was not perceived by many as a winner. But on March 4, two days before the deadline, Kennedy, still undecided, called his California ally, Assembly Speaker Jesse Unruh, and said, “OK, get me on the ballot. But don’t get caught at it.” An Unruh aide got a draft-Kennedy group to file the papers. A day or two later, Kennedy entered the race; he won the primary and was assassinated on election night.

Draft-Gore groups are being formed. The Web site AlGore.org, The 2008 Grassroots Draft Campaign, claims the existence of 249 of them.

It’s up to these groups to put Gore’s name on Super Duper Tuesday state ballots. Then it would be up to Gore to disown them.

“I am not planning to run for president,” Gore said on “The Today Show” in 2006, and he has not varied from that position. “I am involved in a different kind of campaign to change the minds of people in our country and around the world on why the climate crisis is the most serious crisis we have ever faced ... ,” he said.

Nor does there seem to be a Gore ground swell. The Associated Press reported that the latest Gallup Poll showed that 54 percent of those surveyed said they would not like to see him run.

Gore’s statements and the poll seem to be the final word. Yet, despite President Bush’s efforts to ameliorate the war’s impact, the Iraq conflict will be the central issue of this election, and except for Bill Richardson, the top Democratic candidates would keep us there for some time.

Gore has a different and broader take on the war, tying it to global warming. “The climate crisis is caused by the burning of all these fossil fuels and our entanglement in the Persian Gulf region where the biggest reserves are to be found is linked to it, “ he said.

Right now, the political correspondents and analysts are awarding the nomination to Clinton. But her lead is a product of polls and spin, ephemeral in a country bogged down in the Iraq war. Before the candidate is chosen, Democratic eyes may turn elsewhere.

I just don't get it???

Where does it say that he must run against all odds?

Run your ads, have your marches, etc, it doesn't matter and it has not mattered!

First of all, MONEY matters. Gore is well aware of the money that Dean raised through the internet, right, yes he is! Check those numbers! As outstanding as they were, they are not even close to enough to make the run on that issue alone, they just aren't folks and they are not going to be either! Look at Obama and how many different little supporters he has and H-rod is wiping the floor with him in money!

That means he would have to suck up to the Fat Cats period and he has huge disdain for that and I don't blame him! Don't start with spending his hard earned recent fortune and personal wealth either, cause none of us really knows how much it is and it is PERSONAL!

He is aware of all of us, Rob Reiner, Jon Bon Jovi, and myriad others celebs, rich folks, PhD's etc, I know some of them just because he introduced me to them! They have his ear direct and they have begged and pleaded better than we have and that is not the issue!

How about the fact that his negatives are just as high as H-Rods, GET REAL!

How about the fact that every poll shows him to be OK as a person running far from a slam dunk. Just because we all want him does not translate into the electorate!

How about the fact that a loss would damage his reputation to the grave and derail most of the momemtum of climate change that he alone has generated!

All you wish to do is have him risk it all double or nothing, everything, all of the comeback, the Oscars, the Nobel the pride all of it on a selfish run for your presidency against a MEDIA zeitgeist that has NOT changed! That rails against him every week and he is not even running!

He admits, he laments that in 10 years the net will change enough that a true grassroots type effort could occur. That the current media lies package will not work in 10 years do to the net changes. He sets around witht the board of Apple folks, ya think maybe he has an insight to the real potential of the net in 10 years, perhaps a little better than we do????

The USSC has not changed either! The entire scenario could actually repeat it self just like 2000 all over again! That is IF he could rest the nomination away from H-rod to begin with.

How about the fact that if he got in now it would piss off the Obama supporter and others that he comes in now in that manner. People are nothing but fickle people!

He has much more to lose than to gain at this point in his life!

How about the fact that he wrote his Harvard 99 page thesis on the effects of the media on the presidency! Ya think perhaps that and his first hand knowledge gives him some insight into the race that perhaps we don't know???

So easy for all of us to say DEAL, we we are not putting our entire legacy, the fate of continued progress to save the earth, the admiration of millions that look to him as someone that has risen above the fray to do something special for society that attempts to transcend politics as usual!

You all just seem to ignore the plain facts of the total illegality and the twisted media and political, judicial environment we are in and think that a man that is the number one person screwed by that system can ride in and triumph over all of that when NOTHING, NADA, ZIP, has changed and will not until the Internet truly becomes the last chance to make than change.

Personaly, I think Big Business has the world locked up for the rest of time eternal!

Oh sure, just to be clear, I would adore him as president, but truthfully, I think he would be assaassinated and that it would fulfill the Tecumseh Curse if that occured?

CHECK OUT THIS URL FOR THEIR TAKE AS WELL

http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2007/10/20/12448/053

You make excellent points, but if those thoughts are indeed keeping Gore out of the race, why hasn't he clearly and without a doubt say NO like he did in 2003?

EXCELLENT POST!!!!!!

So blueraider, are we not supposed to want better for our Country? All those terrible things you mentioned - how can we "as the people" bring about change? How did Abraham Lincoln bring about change? Should we just give up on that?

Are we selfish to want the BEST person as President to bring our troops home, to end this senseless war, to bring about Democracy, to salvage our Earth? I realize that is a tall order for someone to fill, but if anyone can attempt it, it would be GORE.

Should Gore just sit on the sidelines because he worries about taking a chance of ruining his legacy? When he started doing his slide show presentations again these past few years, he didn't know how it would be received, yet he took a chance in trying it. He talks of fixing the cracks in the foundation of our Democracy, and he recently made those videos. He will not rule out a run completely. Why is that? If he asked the Draft Gore movement to stop, I have no doubt that they would stop in a heart beat. I don't think that is too much to ask.

I certainly would not want to see Gore assassinated. I would bawl my eyes out if that happened. But there is no guarantee that would happen. He could become President and lead this Nation like no one has ever seen before - or tragedy could happen. I could walk across the street and get ran over - does that mean I should not take a chance in walking across the street?

I really don't mean to sound preachy or anything. But I just think this is a critical time in our history and I think Gore wants us to stand up for what we believe in. I certainly don't give a flip about what Britney or O.J. or Paris is doing. I want something to change in our government and this movement is the only way I know how to get it done - or attempt to get it done. Without hope and determination, what is left?

So he runs and loses

At least he tried

There is a difference between trying and losing, and knowing you MAY lose and not trying

AT LEAST it would keep HIS ISSUE in the news til the convention

At least it would JUST MAYBE keep Hillary from the delegate count (IF the primary vote is legal and fair)

And it may lead to a brokered conventioin

OR it may lead to a 68 moment too if ya know what I mean and we will all mourn

We already are mourning the loss of our constitution as we used to know it

And in all prior races, people ran without reasons or needs and all but ONE person in each race did not get seated president, and lots of those people stayed relevant and some did not(i.e. John Edwards in 2004 and 2008, what the hell has he ever done to warrant anything at all, yet he does it, surely Gore offers 10000 times more reason)

But in America, trying and not succeeding but giving 100percent, IS better than not trying and not succeeding by giving in

What it must be to live in Al Gore's shoes...IF he is like the people here think he is, WTF goes through his person every day, he must be proverbially being torn limb to limb in deciding which way to go

But, God Dammit, he has got to step up to the plate and strike out swinging, then saying to the coach, put someone else in, I am not up to playing the game.
THAT IS THE TRUTH, JUSTICE, THE AMERICAN WAY we proverbially have grown up on...
(cue John Fogerty's Centerfield).

Great post, ReElect. I couldn't agree more!!

John Fogerty-Centerfield ©
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmvst227HNw


Willie,Mickey & the Duke- Terry Cashman © (back before steroids)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtk55GShZyA

What he should do? He has to run? He has to or he is lying and not trying hard enough to change things.

I bet all of you would have stayed with the 300 Spartans too, huh?

Not one thought to how the deck is stacked and rigged against him especially.

Today there is an article in the Tennessean in his hometown where a man with his picture is posted stating that Gore doesn't deserve the Nobel and Climate Change is a lie etc!!! The man is presented as a pundit, a scientist of impeccable papers and education that is in the know! No way to dispute a scientist it appears at first glance BUT---

If you read the commnets section, it exposes the man as a REGISTERED lobbyist for EXXON.

Trouble is comments like that don't make it into the print edition that lays around break rooms, etc for all to read and form their opinion! Then the talk show locals pick up on it and quote it as the gospel and voila Gore is not credible AND HE IS NOT EVEN RUNNING FOLKS!

You have this naive expectation that Gore can somehow drive right through all of this mess and save us, just turn it around by running the good fight and to hell with him if he loses cause it was his duty out of his own mouth to do so????

With friends like you guys, who needs enemies???? :wtf: :tongue:

Then we are already doomed and so is our constitution

If he can't do it, no one else can, so this country is really in deep spit (as I have said for years now)...not naive, just know there is no one else who will stop Hillary.

He doesn't have to run...if HIllary is fine by him and the corruption is fine by him, he don't have to move a muscle and bother.
He can retire in peace and can all move-on (into the proverbial train car that will take us all to the concentration camps, showers and sure death one way or another)

ouch :(

Naw, I wanted to edit this with one simple question: Is it too much to ask that Gore address the draft movement directly and tell us to stop it?

throw us a bone Al...
or don't...

Trouble with your suggestion is, IF he is thinking of a 3rd party or extremely late run, he gotta keep it open anyhow

Why he doesn't just run EVEN IF HE IN THE END DOESN'T WIN is beyond me...(as stated above)...

All the sunday morning news shows have annointed HIllary...so in theory, it negates any/all endorsement of anyone else...Why endorse someone else who won't get it?

ReElectAlGore, my "ouch" reply was in response to Blueraider's post, but yours squeezed in above that.

You know that train car thingy never really happened, doncha? ;)

I'm going to continue to believe that Gore has still not 100% ruled out running until I hear a more definitive statement from him....to us. Since he put a stop to this draft movement in the past, I have to think that he has the character to show us this kind of courtesy and respect .

I've gotta say though, my hope and spirits are dwindling. If I knew for certain where we stood and that we are wasting our time and money here, I could invest both in a more productive way. For me, it won't be supporting any other candidate and I WON'T be voting for Hillary.

Blueraider, Gore has been pretty frank with us about the climate crisis and how we have the "moral imperative" to do something about it. He has also been frank about how Americans have become complacent and focused on trivial things such as Britney, O.J. and Paris. Well, I think he would expect us to be frank with him as well.

If our grandkids are going to ask the questions such as why did we let things get this bad - or how did we find the "moral courage," don't you think it would reason to think Gore would choose to run for President - finding that moral courage to try again, especially when this seems to be "his time." I'm not naive in thinking that this will be a cakewalk. I know what is at risk and what Gore will face. But the way I look at it, we're in this together. I regret that the American people did not fight harder for Gore back in 2000. I don't know what we could have done, but I feel like we should have done more. :?:

I do think we would fight harder this time. Maybe Gore wants to know just how hard we would fight for him. Maybe he wants us to draft him. He hasn't asked the movement to stop. :?:

I also think during all this process, that crooks such as Exxon has been exposed for who they are - trying to change the facts on the climate crisis. So something is being accomplished. :D

And I don't think me wanting him to run for President makes me his enemy. :P

You ever get the feeling, the more we explain what we want, the more it sounds like Dorothy going to the Wizard, and it not being good enough she arrived, she then needed to murder the witch before they would get what they already had?

If Gore doesn't know he not only has the support but...

I still think we are going to look at a Gore/Bloomberg run...no money is needed to be raised, and they would get on all 50 state ballots...(Zuckerman on MacLachlan said today he predicts Bloomberg to run)...

Nothing else makes any sense anymore...

Yeah, I do feel a little like Dorothy, trying to get the heck outta this crazy land of Oz and to the great, green land of Gore City. :laugh: If we are asking too much of Gore, all he's gotta do is say, STOP.

Hey, if Gore runs with Bloomberg as a 3rd party, I'd be dancing in the street. :lol: Any party with a Gore ticket is a good party, I say, lol.

You may have somehting there, I had not given it too much thought. But, Bloomberg is now an Independent.

Actually I feel more like the Lord of the Rings movies and the part where they are climbing up to the top of Mount Doom exhausted and Frodo is weak from the ring and wants to give up and Sam gives him a speech about why they have to continue on their quest and then ends up carrying him.

Someone in dailykos posted a video clip of it today and I thought thats how I feel.

Weak but knowing that if we give up evil forces will take over and that we need to have faith and believe.

I think hope for real change is so tiny, such a dim flicker of flame a bare whisper of wind could blow it out.

and no third party has gotten more than 5% of the vote recently... DEMOCRATIC AL! :clap:

Perot was polling 39 percent til both the dems and repubs conspired and made him drop out (Perot looked nutsy then, however making someone nutsy and calling them crazy is a trademark of the Bush tenet and mantra system for anything that is against them).
At one short point, Perot led all 3 and Clinton was under 20 percent.(something liek 39-31-19 P/B/c (wikipedia).

I just posted on a different thread the following-
Al Gore is either turned arrogant, rude, and stupid, and making us look like patsies.

OR if you listen closely-he is telling us he is running 3rd party-
He hates the system, hates the politics of the dems/repubs
He is NOT stupid, NOT arrogant, not rude...
So he is telling us, hang in there, 3rd party run, spring 2008-summer 2008

Nothing else makes any sense in this stupid non-sensical world anymore

And Bloomberg is doing the same "tease",however, Bloomberg is independent, has no desire to run dem/repub and has the luxury of teasing til June08.

The money would be there. Bloomberg said he would use 500Million or more of his own money.

I don't see what logic it would make for Gore to now back Obama, only to have Obama lose in less than 3 months to Hillary...

No, as it don't appear Obama/Edwards/Richardson/Dodd are leaving the race, and there is not room for Gore to pass Hillary without all those votes, my guess is
3rd. party

Screw the democrats, they screwed him.

If one reads the tea leaves, he is saying he hates politics the way it is, and is changing the white lines on the road---he is going outside the box
He is NOT stupid. He is NOT rude. He has to know if he truly cares about his cause and not filming a sequel, the only way is to be the one to lead.
End of story.

Perot by the way got 19 PERCENT in the general election.(not 5).Even after leaving the race then coming back.
People in America do NOT like the Bushfamily then or now. Which is why anyone protesting them is called crazy,nuts,loco,loony,insane,onmeds, etc. So call me that.
It is an honor.

In a "rare sit-down interview" with Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Bloomberg made it "categorically clear that he will not run for President of the United States, nor will he seek a Vice Presidential bid nor any cabinet position for that matter, something he's never done before."

http://www.hd.net/drr228.html

Well a certain Al Gore says the same things, yet we are all still here...

It doesn't matter who Gore's 3rd party VP is, but Bloomberg has the money

and seeking and taking "to save the world" are 2 separate matters

(I still think a Clinton/Gore ticket could be negotiated, might already have been)

great find though...
the title about Bhotto being in exile sort of applies to Dan Rather himself after the character assassaination done on him

Gore running as VP would be a humiliating for him, giving the media more ammunition against him. He's earned far more than that and, IMHO, would never be someone else's VP. He is the elder statesman of many Liberals and Progressives. He also knows that he can do much more as President or in his current role as a citizen than VP.

My hopes also are dwindling. But he hasn't told the drafters to stop. Until that happens, and until the primaries are over, there's still a chance.

That's a bogus excuse worrying about whether Al's vanity is hurt

In actuality, though I don't want to vote for Hillary, millions more would flock to the ticket and think it is a good thing

Who cares about his ego?
Saving the world is more important than one's ego being stroked

If he is not either #1 or #2, he will be forgotten, as will his issue.

Big deal about elder statesman, that is a meaningless title, what did that title do for Walter Mondale? Or Mike Dukakis?
Or for that matter until the last 2 or 3 years, Jimmy Carter?

People forget awards and look at Bob Geldof, he had his cause, his moment in the sun, and now people scratch their head and say Sir Bob Who?

His present role if he is not #1 or #2 is as meaningful as say Ted Turner, he's a corprate hack, whoopdidoo
All talk, no power

Since he was VP, he made the position important
Now, Cheney is the power as VP
If he were (and he doesn't run, which is pretty evident, he will not run as a democrat), if he were VP, at least he can reign Hillary in a bit

The way people make their decision on who to vote for now is the problem. When a person votes, they should be voting for the person they believe is best for the position, not for the person they think is going to win over someone else.

That's why HRC is in front. Because the press says so. She's the one person that the Republicans know they can beat because so many people dislike her. The press was bought out by the Republicans, and they are still being their lapdog. The press says she's in front, so, by default, she is.

As for the money matters part; it shouldn't. Again, the press has made a big deal out of this, and we follow like good little doggies.

Personally, I don't care how much money the "candidates" have or don't, and I don't care what anyone else thinks, and I don't care what party they are. I'm voting for the person who I believe will do the best job. That's Al Gore. That's what our country was originally based on, and I'm sticking with it.

Maybe that's what we should be pushing for this and future elections... even if the people don't vote for Gore, it would more accurately reflect American values.

If Gore don't run, almost definitely Hillary is our next President.

I shall write in the name of Jimmy Carter. He told us the truth, and no one wanted to hear the truth, then or now. So in honor of him, I will write his name in.

Won't matter much, as Hillary will win with or without my vote if that is the case.
But at least I would not be voting for a continuation of the way things are.
A vote for Hillary without Gore on the ticket in 2008 is a vote for Jeb Bush in 2016.
Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Even if Gore does not run, and say Clinton is the nominee she will not win. The war issue alone will result in a Strong Progressive Third Party candidate. There is no way you will get all the Obama, Edwards and Kucinich Supporters to vote for her. Her DLC buds need to give her Harry Reid's job as a consolation prize or risk having a Republican returning to the White House in 2008.

I do not know of any democrats that will vote for Hillary. They do not want her. The whole package is just too much to shallow. The Clintons are the reason Gore has not jumped in yet, but I think that he will when he finally knows that she can not win.

READING IS FUNDAMENTAL:

2004:
Ralph Nader 465,650 0.38 - -
Michael Badnarik 397,265 0.32 - -
Michael Peroutka 143,630 0.12 - -
David Cobb 119,859 0.096 - -
Leonard Peltier 27,607 0.023 - -
Walt Brown 10,837 0.009 - -
James Harris 7,102 0.006 - -
Roger Calero 3,698 0.003 - -
None of these candidates (Nevada) 3,688 0.003 - -
Thomas Harens 2,387 0.002 - -
Gene Amondson 1,944 0.002 - -
Bill Van Auken 1,857 0.002 - -
John Thompson Parker 1,646 0.001 - -
Charles Jay 946 0.001 - -
Stanford Andress 804 0.001 - -
Earl Dodge 140 0.000 - -

2000:
Ralph Nader Green Connecticut 2,883,105 2.7% 0 Winona LaDuke Minnesota 0
Pat Buchanan Reform Virginia 449,225 0.4% 0 Ezola B. Foster California 0
Harry Browne Libertarian Tennessee 384,516 0.4% 0 Art Olivier California 0
Howard Phillips Constitution Virginia 98,022 0.1% 0 Curtis Frazier Missouri 0
John Hagelin Natural Law/Reform Iowa 83,702 0.1% 0 Nat Goldhaber California 0

You asked for it so using your own words, you are: crazy,nuts,loco,loony,insane,onmeds, etc.

Once again you have overstepped the bounds of decency.

Please stop posting your blather all over this site. You are a nuisance and a troll. :mad:

algorefan-YOU are being rude. :mad: :spikey: :mad:

Were YOU out on the streets in 2000 in Florida and DC?
If so, I did not see many people joining me ( :clap: ) (many real people...there were alot of paid pros on the Bush side, but not real people
((i.e. the phony rioteers in Miami Dade County courthouse that stopped the recount).

WHAT PART OF ROSS PEROT GOT 19PERCENT OF THE VOTE, even AFTER he quit the race and came back DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND???(and I did NOT vote for Ross, however, wish he won as Clinton ruined the democratic party, is not and never has been a LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC person
And Al Gore could be retiring from 10 years as President now if only the sleazeball had RESIGNED and the world would have been better off on all accounts, we would be living in peace, love and harmony and the environment would already be reverting back

Go look at the figures from 1992 and see
19 percent. :mad: :mad:

The other candidates in 2000 and 2004 were minor people not running serious nationwide campaigns :mad: :mad: :mad:

A serious, well funded (w/Bloomberg there would be no need to raise another penny) 3rd party run can win
IF THE VOTE IS COUNTED FAIR
PEOPLE ARE SICK OF THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS...SICK OF POLITICS AS USUAL. THEY WANT OUT OF THE BOX IDEAS TO FIX THEIR AMERICA

So, unless YOU want Hillary and JOe Lieberman to continue the politics of destruction, better hope Al gets in the race anyway possible, and runs a real race
Otherwise we are all doomed, and 1/2 the people here agree with me.

Good night and good luck in your fantasy world. :rolleyes:

Sweetie, in the immortal words of Bill Clinton: I feel your pain. Trust me, I do. My own matches it exactly and it is very real and very tangible and getting "realer" and "tangibler" (there's a word for ya!) every day. But let me tell you: I think Al gore WILL run. In fact, I feel sure of it, even though virtually every pundit is saying he won't run. And one on the McLaughlin Group of all places summed up that view and really depressed me, until I realized what I'm about to tell you I realized. But anyway, he (I believe it was that Mort Zucherman pup) said, basically: "Gore is a winner right now. Why would he want to run and risk being a loser?" And I think that is what the "experts" think Gore is thinking. And it makes sense. If you don't know Al Gore. And, in my opinion, they don't know Al Gore. I've been an admirer since 1988, and if you observe Gore long enough, or even for a short while, actually, something stands out quite clearly: Gore isn't in it ("it" being politics, basically, but more broadly, any cause he takes on) for the glory or the power. He is in it for the greater good, for the cause, for the country, for the planet. And I think--no, I'm sure--he knows that this is a pivotal moment in human history. He of all people knows that we HAVE to turn global climate change around ASAP. And he knows that the president of the United States is in a unique position to effect that turn around.

Maybe it was fate afterall that everything turned out as it did in 2000 (I CAN'T believe I just said that *LOL*) because Gore has accomplished a great, amazing amount as a private citizen and I am not sure he could have done what he did in the role of President. This has been the time of Private Citizen Gore. And he has done the absolute most anyone could do in that role, especially on the crucial front of awakening global consciousness to the seriousness and urgency of the issue. But now is the time for President Gore. He can go back to being Private Citizen Gore and/or Ambassador Gore and/or any other Gore in 8 years. But right now? We need President Gore. And I feel certain he knows that. And will act on it.

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Cheers to you, hangingchad!!! Well said, well said indeed!!

Hangingchad, I certainly hope you are right. Your i.d. is so appropriate and serves as a reminder of what we lost in 2000. (I should have used butterflyballot as my i.d., lol) :laugh:

Anyway, I've been telling myself the same things - that Gore does really care and I just can't see him not answering the call because he KNOWS how important this all is. I've been racking my brains, trying to figure out what is going thru his mind?? I've spent this afternoon watching youtube videos of different Gore interviews and some of the draftgore videos, as well, which are really awesome. I want to say a big "THANK YOU" to all those who made videos and to all the people in Michigan who worked so hard in gathering all the petition signatures. :clap:

One thing I've noticed in all the interviews is how Gore stops just short of ruling out a presidential bid - such as in the interview with George Stephanopalous back in 2006 and more recently with Terry Moran. He made a comment to Terry Moran that things "like that don't happen anymore or haven't happened in 100 years," generally referring to being drafted or called upon to run for President. I can't help but feel like he wants to see how hard the movement will work to get hiim drafted. So I think right now is a very crucial time. I think what the Draft movement is doing is very important in getting our guy to run. Let's do all we can to push this forward, vote in the polls, donate, get petitions, write letters to Gore, get the word out, etc!! Granted, I get discouraged, but everytime I read a negative articles, I can't help but feel the media is fearful of a Gore run and it makes me more determined. Let's keep it up until we hear something from Gore, which hopefully will be soon, if the DFA is able to get an answer from him.

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Let's pray he answers the call: But When??? The clock is ticking. We are at our own two yard line, facing the 85 Bears defense with no timeouts, forty seconds left in the game, a quarterback with a bum arm and down six points. When? When? Getting desperate here!

I don't know, pleaseAl. I don't know.

This roller coaster ride is very bad for the nerves, that's for sure. Sometimes I am about ready to give up but then I hear or read something encouraging and I don't know why, but my gut tells me he'll get in. I could be dead wrong!! But I'm not giving up until I hear something from him.

:Y: Thank you, daaaahlink!