Title: What do you think is next?
AlGoreFan - October 18, 2007 04:35 AM (GMT)
This is an intense time. What do you think he will do next?
IanOC - October 18, 2007 05:15 AM (GMT)
I think he is going to wait until the last possible moment-end of October or early November, before he decides to stay out of the race or go for it. I think he has reasons for waiting, mostly to give him leverage over all the other candidates and for matters of "timing."
It just doesn't make sense to me that he will let Clinton win the primary, given that:
(1) She voted for the Iraq War
(2) She has not made the climate crisis a priority
(3) She could lose to Giuliani and give America another four years of Republican rule
He's either going to run or endorse someone other than HRC.
jharri1992 - October 18, 2007 05:28 AM (GMT)
Ian, I appreciate the insights and am pleading for a response, as you seem to have a nice grasp of the mechanics Gore would face in running. What is the latest he could wait and still allow enough time to get on the ballots in the critical states?
IanOC - October 18, 2007 05:45 AM (GMT)
I think the dates are:
October 23rd--Michigan
October 31st/November 1st--Florida/Georgia/South Carolina
November 5th--Illinois
November 16th--New Hampshire
I don't know when the Nevada and Iowa deadlines are. But, since Michigan and Florida may be disqualified for breaking the rules and Obama would be favored in Illinois, I suppose Gore could wait all the way until the 15th and then make a surprise announcement for NH and the rest of the states and then blow the whole race wide open. Most of the deadlines are in December.
Gore simply doesn't need to be in the race right now. He has four things the other candidates don't have:
(1) Money (so he doesn't need to raise it)
(2) 24 years of experience in federal government (so he doesn't have to answer questions about his experience)
(3) Right on the big issues in the campaign (the Iraq war, the environment, health care) (so he doesn't have to answer questions about his judgment)
(4) A Nobel Peace Prize
I'm giving Gore until November 15th. If he doesn't announce by then, I'm going to support Obama, Edwards or Kucinich.
Jonathan Pollard - October 18, 2007 05:49 AM (GMT)
October 23rd is the deadline for Michigan, and he'd need to have enough petition signatures by that date. The Michigan Draft Gore people said they don't have enough funding to get enough signatures by that date because they don't have enough volunteer petition takers and would have to hire additional ones in order to get the required number of signatures.
IanOC - October 18, 2007 05:54 AM (GMT)
Michigan is irrelevant. Obama, Edwards, Biden and Richardson have already taken themselves off the ballot because they broke the DNC rules.
Wayne in WA State - October 18, 2007 06:20 AM (GMT)
The Michigan Primary is a 'beauty contest' that won't actually select delegates that count at the Democratic Convention so the Michigan primary deadline isn't a real deadline. November 15th is a good date to say, if Al isn't in by then, he's gonna have to be drafted.
Why doesn't he just say that he's not going to run in 2008, period? Why doesn't he ask Dylan and Monica to call it off?
Maybe it's because he IS going to run and he wont be able to turn down the pleading voices of the American people who need a real president for a change. :spikey:
AlGoreFan - October 18, 2007 06:42 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (IanOC @ Oct 17 2007, 11:54 PM) |
| Michigan is irrelevant. Obama, Edwards, Biden and Richardson have already taken themselves off the ballot because they broke the DNC rules. |
Not to mention I sent the Michigan people a bonifide signature taker and no contact was made, this now one week later.
ReElectAlGore2008 - October 18, 2007 08:27 PM (GMT)
3rd party
He doesn't need to care about any dates until late spring/early summer 2008
f--- the democrats. They f---ed him over good. Why care about them. They is Hillary
Wayne in WA State - October 18, 2007 09:00 PM (GMT)
Did ya'll notice that the story of Al Gore having taken himself out of the 2008 campaign has been withdrawn by BBC. They must have been concerned about another 'Dewey Defeats Truman' headline. I saw it as a headline on AP news one disturbing night and it seems to be gone there too.
I'm not gonna respond anymore to 3rd party scenarios. We all are entitled to our opinions, I say there's not a snowballs chance in hell.
:coolwink:
ReElectAlGore2008 - October 18, 2007 09:24 PM (GMT)
Due to the weird climate out there, and wide mood swings of Mother Nature
There is a 50 percent chance of a snowball being in hell
Therefore, anything is possible
:clap: :clap: :laugh: :P :lol: :D
PleaseAl - October 18, 2007 10:46 PM (GMT)
The VP and 3rd Party options are pipe dreams, in my opinion, though Hillary, assuming her victory for a second, would be genius to chose Al, messiah of the far left and centrist Dems. But, I'd rather him enter and roll as a Dem.
ReElectAlGore2008 - October 19, 2007 12:35 AM (GMT)
In the old days (pre corrupt-dictator Bush days), people didn't ponder running
They just did it (even if they didn't end up winning)...there was no downside to it all
The old days were better.
imprisonslimebush - October 19, 2007 09:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (IanOC @ Oct 18 2007, 01:45 AM) |
I'm giving Gore until November 15th. |
What a nice birthday present that would be for me :rolleyes:
ALGOREismylife - October 19, 2007 09:30 PM (GMT)
I know he will not announce anything today, October 19. It's his son's 25th birthday.