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ALGOREismylife - October 16, 2007 05:52 PM (GMT)
http://consortiumnews.com/2007/101307.html

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Smearing Al Gore: Here We Go Again

By Robert Parry
October 13, 2007

When people wonder how the United States ended up in today’s nightmarish predicament, a big part of the answer is that the right-wing message machine and the mainstream U.S. news media distorted reality at key moments about key people, perhaps most notably Al Gore during Campaign 2000.

That ability to twist reality has been a major focus of our reporting at Consortiumnews.com over the years [See, for instance, “Al Gore v. the Media” or “Protecting Bush/Cheney.”] Much of this work is reprised in our new book, Neck Deep.

But even now – when the consequences of the news media’s earlier “war on Gore” can be measured in the horrible death toll that has followed the Bush presidency – it appears that little has changed.

Lies and distortions about Al Gore remain an easy political commodity to sell, as we have seen in the renewed assault on Gore in the wake of his winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

As the news spread about the Nobel Committee’s recognition of Gore’s work publicizing the threat from global warming, both the right-wing media and major news outlets geared up to hype criticism of Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” in a ruling by an obscure British judge.

Hours before the Nobel Prize announcement, the Washington Post ran a news story quoting High Court Judge Michael Burton as detecting “nine errors” in the documentary and asserting that the alleged mistakes “arise in the context of alarmism and exaggeration in support of his political thesis.”

Burton ruled that British schools could show the film but only with a cautionary advisory for students.

Burton’s ruling became a cause celebre for the American Right’s powerful media, which used it to discredit both Gore and the movement seeking to stop global warming. Mainstream news outlets, such as CNN, quickly fell into line, citing Burton’s ruling almost every time Gore’s Nobel Peace Prize was mentioned on Oct. 12.

Right-wing Internet postings soon added the word “significant” between the words “nine” and “errors,” albeit without quotes around those three words together.

Lo and behold, on Oct. 13, the Washington Post ran a snarky editorial about Gore’s Nobel Peace Prize claiming that Burton’s ruling had found “nine significant errors” – now put together in quotes. The editorial faulted Gore for “factual misstatements and exaggerations.”

For his part, Gore has sought to play down the significance of Burton’s ruling, much as he tried to finesse press misstatements about him during Campaign 2000. Rather than confronting false quotes then about him claiming to have “invented the Internet” and to be the one who “started” the Love Canal clean-up, Gore tried to make light of the misunderstandings so he wouldn’t be further bashed as “defensive.”

Similarly now, Gore’s spokesman Kalee Kreider cited the positive side of Burton’s ruling, saying Gore was “gratified that the courts verified that the central argument of ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ is supported by the scientific community.” [Washington Post, Oct. 12, 2007]

However, like the “invented the Internet” canard and the press misquotes about Love Canal, Burton’s ruling quickly became the supposedly definitive judgment in dismissing the Gore documentary as the “Inconvenient Untruth.”

Who Is Judge Burton?

Yet, regardless of where the Post editorial writers lifted the phrase “nine significant errors” – clearly not from their own news story – the more significant question should be: Why is Judge Burton suddenly the arbiter of truth on the complicated subject of global warming and on Gore’s lectures about the topic.

Burton, in his early 60s, is best known as an “employment appeal tribunal judge.” Though his career has attracted little public notice, he earned praise from the far-right, anti-immigrant British National Party for issuing a ruling in 2005 that applied the nation’s Race Relations Act “to cover the racial rights of White people.”

Hailing what it called Burton’s history-making ruling, the BNP said, “This now means that any organisations or companies that discriminate against a member of the British National Party are guilty of anti-white racism.” [BNP statement on Aug. 10, 2005]

Burton’s criticisms of Gore’s power-point presentation also read more like quibbles than anything “significant.”

At one point, for instance, Gore shows a photo of flooding on a Pacific island and in reference to rising sea levels states, “That’s why the citizens of these Pacific nations have all had to evacuate to New Zealand.”

Gore’s brief remark doesn’t spell out exactly which islands he was referring to or whether the evacuations were permanent or temporary.

But Burton took Gore to task over the sentence. As recounted by the Telegraph (U.K.), Burton’s ruling states that “An Inconvenient Truth” claims that low-lying Pacific atolls “are being inundated because of anthropogenic global warming” but that there is no evidence of any evacuation having yet happened.

While Gore’s single sentence could be criticized as imprecise or confusing, Burton is not entirely correct either.

The leaders of Tuvalu, a string of islands between Hawaii and Australia, announced in 2001 that they had no choice but to abandon their island-country because of rising sea levels and asked permission to relocate all 11,000 inhabitants to New Zealand. [See article by the Earth Policy Institute, Nov. 15, 2001.]

Since then, New Zealand has agreed to a plan for the gradual evacuation of Tuvalu and other Pacific islands facing environmental catastrophe. [See report from Friends of the Earth International.]

Evacuation Begun

Contrary to Burton’s ruling, the evacuation of Tuvalu already has begun, according to travel reporter Janine Israel in a 2004 story about the expected loss of these picturesque islands to potential tourists.

“Over recent decades, the remote Pacific nation [of Tuvalu] has been beset by frequent floods, cyclones, and rising sea levels.” Israel wrote. “Tuvalu’s 10,500 inhabitants have already begun the dreaded process of evacuating to New Zealand, which has agreed to accept 75 Tuvaluans per year as environmental refugees. …

“Tuvalu has been given 50 years before it sinks beneath the waves. Although the melting of glaciers and icecaps is partly responsible for the rise in sea level, it is also due to the warming of the seawater, which expands when heated.

“And it isn’t alone. Other low-lying island nations are at the frontline of climate change. Kiribati, the Cook Islands, Palau, Vanuatu, Tonga, French Polynesia, the Republic of the Marshall Island, Tokelau, and the Republic of Maldives are all gearing up for a Noah’s Flood. For intrepid travelers, these are the countries to visit before they slip off the map for good.”

Given this unfolding tragedy, Burton’s querulous point would seem to be finicky at best.

Judge Burton also blasts Gore for supposedly suggesting that “in the near future” a sea-level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by the melting of either West Antarctica or Greenland.

“This is distinctly alarmist,” the judge wrote, arguing that sea levels may indeed rise that much “but only after, and over, millennia” and the idea that the melting would occur “in the immediate future, is not in line with the scientific consensus,” the Telegraph reported.

But in “An Inconvenient Truth,” Gore never said the 20-foot rise in sea level would occur quickly or even at all.

Referring to Antarctica’s giant ice cap, Gore said, “If this were to go, sea levels world wide would go up 20 feet.” A similar rise could result from the complete thawing of Greenland’s ice cover, Gore said.

“If Greenland broke up and melted, or if half of Greenland and half of west Antarctica broke up and melted, this is what would happen to the sea level in Florida,” Gore said as slides showed what a 20-foot rise in sea levels would do to coastlines around the world.

While Burton’s ruling fits with the characterization of Gore’s comments as popularized in the right-wing news media, it doesn’t match up with what Gore actually said.

Gulf Stream

Judge Burton also puts words in Gore’s mouth in other alleged “errors.” For instance, he notes that Gore’s documentary refers to the danger of global warming “shutting down the Ocean Conveyor,” which powers the Gulf Stream that moderates temperatures in Western Europe.

Citing the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.N. agency which shared the Nobel Prize with Gore, Burton said it’s “very unlikely” that the Ocean Conveyor would shut down, though it might slow down.

Again, however, Burton is adopting a contentious interpretation of Gore’s comments. Gore refers to the shutting down of the Ocean Conveyor in a historical context, when a vast reservoir of North American ice melted and flooded into the North Atlantic, causing a disruption of the Gulf Stream and an ice age in Europe.

Gore’s description of this historic event suggests that something similar could occur if the Greenland ice cap melted, but again Burton is exaggerating Gore’s comments before attacking them.

Similarly, Burton asserts that Gore claimed that two graphs – one representing CO2 levels and the other global temperatures – showed “an exact fit.” The judge ruled that while there is general scientific agreement that there is a connection, “the two graphs do not establish what Mr. Gore asserts.”

But what did Gore actually assert and where did the judge get the words “an exact fit”?

In that segment of the film, Gore doesn’t use the phrase “exact fit,” although he does joke that a sixth-grade classmate who once asked a teacher if the continents of Africa and South America ever “fit together” might have a similar comment about the two graphs.

Gore then states, “The relation is actually very complicated but there is one relationship that is far more powerful than all the others and it is this, when there is more carbon dioxide the temperature gets warmer because it traps more heat from the sun.”

While there are legitimate questions about the precise correlation between past changes in CO2 and earth temperatures, Burton ignores Gore’s admission that “the relation is actually very complicated” and instead puts the words “exact fit” into Gore’s mouth.

Judge Burton plays a similar trick regarding Gore’s references to the destruction from Hurricane Katrina and other powerful storms. Burton claims that there is “insufficient evidence” to support Gore’s supposed claim that global warming caused Katrina and the devastation of New Orleans.

But Gore never makes that direct connection. He does show footage of extreme weather from around the globe, which many scientists believe has been made worse by rising temperatures, but Gore never specifically attributes Katrina or the other examples of flooding to global warming.

Again, Burton has set up a straw man and knocked it down.

Disappearing Snow

Burton faults Gore, too, for attributing the disappearance of snow caps on Mt. Kilimanjaro and the drying up of Lake Chad to global warming. The judge ruled that scientists haven’t established that the receding of ice and the worsening of droughts are primarily attributable to human-caused climate change.

Regarding Lake Chad, Burton said “it is apparently considered to be far more likely to result from other factors, such as population increase and over-grazing, and regional climate variability,” the Telegraph reported.

While Burton is entitled to his scientific opinions, Gore’s concern that warming temperatures have reduced snow cover and contributed to faster evaporation of water is not a particularly controversial point of view.

Burton’s other cited “errors” are even more trivial. Gore is taken to task for saying that polar bears have been drowning because they face swims of up to 60 miles through open ice. Burton asserts that the confirmed cases show four bears drowning during storms, though he acknowledges that it makes sense to expect future drowning-related deaths of bears if ice caps continue to melt.

Gore’s last “error” supposedly was to warn that coral reefs were being bleached because of global warming and other factors. While agreeing with Gore that rising temperatures could increase coral bleaching and fatality, Burton ruled that it was difficult to separate the impact of climate change from other problems, such as pollution.

[For the full list of Burton’s alleged “errors,” see Telegraph (U,K.), Oct. 11, 2007.]

In other words, Burton appears to be a quirky judge who is prone to quibbling over minor nuances. But the larger significance of Burton’s ruling – as it is now championed by right-wing and mainstream U.S. news outlets – is that the vilification of Al Gore is not likely to cease, even with the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize.

That also should be a cautionary lesson to Democrats seeking the White House. The political/media dynamic of Washington has changed little since Campaign 2000. The powerful right-wing news outlets still can make little controversies big and big controversies little.

Plus, major news outlets, like CNN and the Washington Post, continue to fall into line.

The Washington insider community also shows no serious readiness to reexamine its failures in the wake of George W. Bush’s disastrous presidency and the devastating Iraq War, which now even retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the former top commander of coalition forces, calls a “nightmare with no end in sight.”

It’s all so much easier to continue making fun of Al Gore.

Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Neck Deep: The Disastrous Presidency of George W. Bush, was written with two of his sons, Sam and Nat, and can be ordered at neckdeepbook.com. His two previous books, Secrecy & Privilege: The Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq and Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth' are also available there. Or go to Amazon.com.

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Questions - October 16, 2007 08:51 PM (GMT)
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/sto...2190770,00.html


Revealed: the man behind court attack on Gore film

"The school governor who challenged the screening of Al Gore's climate change documentary in secondary schools was funded by a Scottish quarrying magnate who established a controversial lobbying group to attack environmentalists' claims about global warming."

oleblueraider - October 17, 2007 02:36 PM (GMT)
Yes BUT IT WORKED!

No one on the street and in my office, (actually I resigned yesterday, what a screw you government office!) But they are all college educated and many are democrats albeit young ones into pop culture.

They only know a judge refuted the film and found errors which makes the claims that it is another embellished, made up Gore exaggeration seem plausible?

Oh here and there we can tell them but that comes under do you believe facts or do you really recall and believe perception?

They have been good at this now since 2001! We suck at it and until we find a way to answer it, we will lose!

The Paraclete - October 18, 2007 09:08 PM (GMT)
The 'problem' is but ONE word...

GREED!
:mad:


As long as 'so-called' experts like Glenn Beck (he acts like the AUTHORITY on EVERYTHING)& drug taking blow-hards like RU$H Limbaugh can edit the SIGNIFICANT letter of the 'written' history of mankind as war-mongerers like Sean Hannity can seed their FAT POCKETS while the US Government allows the media to put it out as the 'truth' and NOT the 'bad' OPINION that it really is...then we will have many ordinary people wondering EXACTLY what the TRUTH is! The PROBLEM is THEY GET PAID TO DISTORT THE VIEW AND MAKE THE TRUTH OF IT! :mad:

If BU$H had brought forth the concept of 'global warming'...then the Right Wing Noise Machine would have treated it like 'pretzels from heaven'...and we would be CHOKING on THAT as well as the fact that oil is going for 88$ a barrel right now! It's sapping the strength from our economy while Beck, Limbaugh, and Hannity play Idiot Violins In the Background like THREE BLIND MICE! :bad:

Today, Vladimir Putin actually had courage enough to say it....IRAQ WAS A POINTLESS WAR AIMED AT SEIZING THAT NATION'S OIL RESERVES!...and so far IT HAS FAILED! :bad:

And my friends, they WANT Hillary Clinton to run Dem in 2008...because they have TWO TONS of MISCONCEPTIONS to try to bring her down...THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT WITH AL GORE!...THAT is why THEY feel they must DEBUNK 'global warming'...THEY FEAR NOBEL PRIZE WINNER...AL GORE!...so what are we going to do? Put the BEST candidate out there (Al Gore) up for people to vote for?...I hear tooooo many Democrats with the same arguement...they DON'T want to 'hold their noses' and vote for Billary Clinton...THAT is going to put another GOP Neocon right into office for another 4 years of WAR & THREATS against our world neighbors! :!:

I wanted it sooo badly...I WANTED to see the AL GORE ARMY on the Road going from city to city promoting 'peace & prosperity' in a 'pristine' world free of a climate disaster and war...I THINK we can STILL do it! Whoever wins the Dem race, for sure...I WANT TO KNOW WHO AL GORE IS SUPPORTING IF HE IS NOT RUNNING...and WHOEVER he PICKS should get the full support of the Al Gore Army and the DOG (Defenders of Gore)...WE ARE THE ONES THEY FEAR! And THEY know we are RELENTLESS! :good:

Sorry you resigned Rod...but keep you chin up because GOOD TIMES ARE COMING BACK!...I have been foundering since BU$H took office, but I am STILL STANDING! AND I WON'T LET NEOCONS PUT YET ANOTHER MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE UP TO SCREW THE US PUBLIC FOR 4 MORE YEARS! :!:

Want to get 'em p.o.ed? Just cut and paste links to THIS thread and many others here at AGSC! REPRESENT THE MAN WITH THE PLAN! AL GORE!

Jonathan Pollard - October 19, 2007 03:35 AM (GMT)
I think there's going to be an Al Gore story (most likely a smear) on ABC's 20/20 this Friday.

TNblue - October 19, 2007 04:15 AM (GMT)

Anything to squash the momentum. :bad:

The Paraclete - October 19, 2007 05:28 PM (GMT)
Time for the DOG to get ready to FLOOD ABC with E-mails! I am sick & tired of Disney Corporation 'shilling' to the Lowest Common Denominator! But let's see...they MAY surprise us and ACTUALLY do a 'positive' piece on a NOBEL PRIZE WINNER! ;)

ALGOREismylife - October 19, 2007 10:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jonathan Pollard @ Oct 18 2007, 09:35 PM)
I think there's going to be an Al Gore story (most likely a smear) on ABC's 20/20 this Friday.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3751219&page=1

Man vs. Nature
Challenging Conventional Views About Global Warming
By JOHN STOSSEL
Oct. 19, 2007 —


The globe is warming, it's our fault and the consequences are going to be terrible. So goes the rhetoric spouted by politicians, celebrities and the media.

It's hard to turn on the TV or open a newspaper these days without hearing about the horrors caused by our warming climate. We can expect more floods, droughts, hurricanes and tornadoes as global warming continues, and pretty soon we'll have to flee from the coasts as the polar ice caps melt and our shorelines flood.

Children are frightened, too. I spoke to a group of kids who said they worry about their future on our planet. One girl feared that water might rise near her house in Rockaway, N.Y., "and it might flood the whole town."

A few of these kids learned about global warming from former Vice President Al Gore's documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth." The movie has been seen by millions, won an an Academy Award and earned Gore widespread praise in the media. People have proclaimed him a "prophet," a "cultural icon" and a "conquering hero." Just last week, he won the Nobel Peace Prize. With all this news coverage, it's no surprise that 86 percent of Americans think global warming is a serious problem and 70 percent want the government to do something now.

But is it a crisis? The globe is warming, but is it really all our fault? And is it true the debate is over? No. What you think you know may not be so.

Watch the story tonight on "20/20" at our new time 8 EDT

In the movie, for example, Gore says that if we allow the globe to warm, "sea levels worldwide would go up 20 feet." Then he shows his audience terrifying maps of Florida and San Francisco submerged under rising sea levels. But the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which shared last week's Nobel Prize with Gore, said that would probably take thousands of years to happen. Over the next 100 years, sea levels are expected to rise seven to 24 inches, not 20 feet.

Gore also implies that polar bears are dying off, because receding Arctic ice has forced them to swim longer distances. The kids I interviewed were especially worried about the fate of the polar bears. But the polar bears appear to be doing all right. Future warming may hurt them, but right now data from the World Conservation Union and the U.S. Geological Survey show most populations of polar bears are stable or increasing.

The Debate Is Over?
The most impressive demonstration in Gore's movie is that big graph of temperature and carbon dioxide levels stretching back 650,000 years. Carbon dioxide is thought to amplify temperature increases, but his graph seemed to show clear cause and effect: When carbon dioxide levels rose, so did temperature. It suggested that carbon levels controlled temperature. But a real inconvenient truth is that the carbon increase came after temperatures rose, usually hundreds of years later. Temperature went up first.

I wanted to ask Gore about that and other things, but he wouldn't agree to an interview. According to Gore, the "debate is over."

I interviewed some scientists who say the debate is by no means over. John Christy and Roy Spencer won NASA's Medal for Exceptional Achievement for figuring out how to get temperature data from satellites.

"We all agree that it's warmed," Spencer said. "The big question is, and the thing we dispute is, is it because of mankind?"

Climate changes, they say, always has, with or without man. Early last century, even without today's huge output of carbon dioxide, the Arctic went through a warming period.

Greenland's temperatures rose 50 percent faster in the 1920s and reached higher average temperatures in the 1930s and 1940s than today's temperatures.

Some scientists argue the warming might be caused by changes in the sun, or ocean currents, or changes in cloud cover, or other things we don't yet understand. The debate is not over.


The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
But who's to say that yesterday's temperature is the perfect one?

"The fact is, when climate changes, there are gains and there are losses," said Tim Ball, who studies the history of climate change. But, he points out, all we generally hear about is the bad news from the IPCC  that massive group of climate scientists.

Paul Reiter of the Pasteur Institute participated in one of the IPCC drafts and Christy was a contributing author. Both say that this Nobel Prize-winning group is not what people think it is.

"The IPCC is the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change," Reiter said. "It is governments who nominate people. You'll find in many chapters that there are people who are not scientists at all." Reiter claims that some of these scientists are "essentially activists" and there are some members with affiliations to groups like Greenpeace.

When the IPCC report came out, not all its members agreed with what was said. "We were not asked to look at a particular statement and sign our names, at all," Christy said.

Reiter felt his objections were ignored and says he resigned in frustration. But in a draft of the report, the IPCC still listed Reiter as a "contributing author"  part of the so-called consensus.

"I contacted the IPCC and I said, 'Look, I've resigned. I don't want to have anything more to do with this.' And they said, 'Well, you've been involved, so you're still on the list.'" Reiter says he had to threaten to sue to get his name removed from the report, although the IPCC denies that.

In all the confusion surrounding the global warming debate, one thing is clear: Global warming activists don't welcome the skepticism.

Those who call their extreme projections into question are compared with Holocaust deniers and accused of being paid off by big business. I've questioned the extreme global warming predictions in the past, and for that I've been branded a "corporate toadie" and a "flat-earther." I don't mind being called names, but is this what the global warming debate has come to? One side saying, "Shut up. Dissent should not be heard?"

The truth is, that while everyone agrees that the earth has warmed, lots of good scientists don't agree that it's mostly our fault, and don't agree that it's going to be a catastrophe. So when Gore says, "The debate is over," I say, "Give Me a Break!"

Andrew G. Sullivan and Patrick McMenamin contributed to this report.


scalbers - October 20, 2007 04:59 PM (GMT)
Interesting report. It's true that the history of CO2 and temperature is somewhat debatable about cause and effect, since over intermediate amounts of geological time (10000 to 1 million years ago) things like the earth's orbit variations have been important climate drivers. However, the thing that strikes me most about that graph is that CO2 levels now are higher than any time in the past 600000 years of the ice core measurements, and probably a much longer time than that. So this time around the CO2 levels are so much higher than the other fluctuations in the past million years that there probably is a cause and effect going on between CO2 and warming. So on balance I think Al Gore's presentation has some important things to tell us.

Farther back around the time of the dinosaurs CO2 levels were very high (around 2000ppm) and I suspect this was a causative factor in the warm conditions that then prevailed (e.g. forests on Antarctica).

As for sea levels, I personally expect about 6" rise by 2030 and 2-5 feet by 2100. It all depends on how fast Greenland can melt and the troubling thing is there aren't any good models that can predict how fast an ice cap responds to changes in temperatures. So we indeed should err on the side of caution. Even if most of the melting occurs in the 22nd century it would be set in motion by what's going on right now - so now is the time to do something about it.

TNblue - November 18, 2007 04:30 PM (GMT)
Tasks for today:

1) Write letter to editor of The Tennessean
2) Cancel subscription
3) Check back here to see if Blueraider has anything colorful to say about this

Author is Nashville's version of Rush/Ann. It's HIS "Kool-Aid" they drink that's so scary.



Sunday, 11/18/07
Al Gore is like Jim Jones, and we're drinking his Kool-Aid

By PHIL VALENTINE

Professor Roger Gottlieb, a leading proponent of religious environmentalism, spoke at Vanderbilt University this past week. Gottlieb, the author of A Greener Faith, maintains that we are to be caretakers of our planet. I certainly agree.

I'm a big fan of clean air and clean water. But this postmodernist environmental movement Gottlieb finds himself in the middle of bears little resemblance to its forerunner, the ecology movement of the 1960s. Back then, Captain Kangaroo simply told us to never throw trash out the window. Soot-belching factories and straight-pipe waste into rivers were put under the microscope. The government ultimately responded with the EPA, formed in 1970 and tasked with cleaning up the land, air and water that had been abused for so long.

Now, schoolchildren scold their parents because they haven't traded in their incandescent lightbulbs for the depressing yellow light of compact fluorescent bulbs. Environmentalism, which used to simply include anyone concerned about pollution, somehow morphed into radical environmentalism. Gottlieb and others have taken up the banner of global warming under the guise of religious responsibility. Radical environmentalism has become a religion in and of itself. Its heaven is a utopia in which we all give up our modern conveniences and technological advancement for some austere, Amish-type lifestyle.

Al Gore, the Jim Jones of this new religious cult, preaches doom and gloom from his pettifogger pulpit, all the while living the lifestyle of an energy hog. He actually uses twice the amount of electricity in one month at his Nashville home than the average household uses in an entire year. He has two homes in Tennessee, one in Virginia, at least. He flies all over the world on his Magical Hysteria Tour, sucking down resources and belching out tons of carbon, all to tell us we need to conserve. We're trying to make ends meet just to afford gas in our cars while Al Gore has a carbon footprint the size of Sasquatch. And no one seems to care.

The Branch Algorians read from the Gospel of Al and never question a word. The movement's devil is carbon dioxide, an essential component of photosynthesis and the substance we all exhale with every breath. Understand this: CO2 is not a pollutant. However, Gore and the radical environmentalists have been quite successful in convincing people that smog and CO2 are the same. They are not. CO2 has nothing whatsoever to do with the smog or haze we see over our cities. There is absolutely no evidence that CO2 has anything to do with any kind of warming.

The Gore Kool-Aid drinkers will point to "all these scientists" but can't give you one link between CO2 and any kind of climate change. As the founder of The Weather Channel, John Coleman, recently put it, global warming is the greatest scam in history.

When Professor Gottlieb is not writing a guilt-trip treatise on the environment, he's writing about Marxism and how the Soviets just didn't quite get it right.

You see, global warming is the perfect template for Marxism because it's the great equalizer. The wealthier a nation, the more CO2 it produces. To atone for its sins, it must pay carbon offsets. In other words, the producing nations pay the non-producing or under-producing nations in cash for the sin of emitting a harmless gas. It's beautiful.

The global warming movement is a way to not just confiscate money and wealth from the producers, but because of their guilt, they gladly hand it over. If Karl Marx were still alive, he'd be beaming with pride.

oleblueraider - November 18, 2007 07:02 PM (GMT)
I finally quit listening to Valentine for even one second. I called into the show more than once and get cut off in a timely maner. Well, it is his show and he can run it anyway he wishes!!!

He doesn't even come close to the facts. I have seen him at black tie affairs around Vandy and he is a shill. He doesn't really believe everything he actually says, but his job is to generate phone calls from our masses of ignorant Tennesseans and he is good at it!!!

I let him go, Hannity, Rush---shoot Rush seems tame compared to Valentine and Hannity and how about that Hawaiian looking girl on fox, like she has a brain at all???? Coulter, I can watch cause I know she is just pushing buttons for money as well!!!

I am trying to wean off of the entire parade!!! It don't matter!!! (Doesn't in the north but Don;t in the south).

Shoot local government scares me to death now and the local school board is off the scale with power mad!

I just wish to hide?

In my days as the Prince of Darkness and evil around TN; I had a rule my friends knew! NEVER let the light of the system shine on you! It turns into a spotlight and it will melt you with its intensity! Don't let the government know who you are anymore is truer than ever! They don't even pretend anymore to be fair! I have set in now on the lower levels of discussion and the new norm is block, deny, take it from them, use the goverment rules to stall, intimidate, scare them off, etc!

It literally scares me to death and my child not being ID ed by them is of paramount importance to me.

Up to a point and then I am ready to Weatheman on them!!!!!!

If I didn't have a child, I would be one of those enviornmental terriosts or something?????I despise what we have become!!!!

TNblue - November 18, 2007 07:18 PM (GMT)
:laugh: :clap: Yup, I knowed I cud count on ya Blueraider to shed some light on why Phil is a set-back :( to folks in this state learning the true facts about anything important.

The article is so ridiculous it just sounds like a childish rant. I can blow off the content, but not the title. Comparing Gore to Jim Jones? That's going too far. I'm going to save a tree and reduce my carbon footprint some more by not having to tote that crap to the recycling bin. :banned: :mad: :bad:

oleblueraider - November 18, 2007 09:18 PM (GMT)
Ya know, I have currently been writing a paper on Max Weber for Government and in the field of sociology, everyone knows that Marx has lost most all credibilty?

First, the Soviet Union was never run like Marx intended! In fact, no country lableled as Marxist has ever ran on his principles so we don't even know if it would have worked and most likely not as Weber points out. Marx was dead before any of those nations rose and it was Lenin that did Russia!

But they label socialism and anything they wish to demonize as Marx or communist cause it pushes their Pavlov trained dogs minds so very well!

I used to wonder what it was like to grow up in a nation that wasn't Number one in most important things like the USA? I wondered as a trained American how ya can stand knowing you were 2nd rate, etc?


I see a time coming when I will wish I was in another nation and I wish Bubba could truly just get me the needed money to get out of the Red states to a Blue state. I can't tell those of you enough who have not been around this nation, just how much difference there is between average life in a Blue state compared to a Red state!!!!

Phil V knows the truth about Gore's house etc, He also knows it is an easy way to push those buttons and grow the lie to his following that allow him to live just as grandiose as those he diss's!

We still suck at their game and wishing it were nice and fair is going to keep us out of the game.

That and the fact that we happen to have the worst group of leaders as Democrats in my lifetime!!!!!




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