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Title: Momentum is building to a crescendo!


hangingchad - October 9, 2007 03:12 PM (GMT)

IanOC - October 9, 2007 03:52 PM (GMT)
NewsMax’s e-letter “Insider Report” first disclosed back on June 10 that the former vice president was considering entering the race if he won the Nobel prize. Winners are announced this October 12 in Oslo, Norway.


NewsMax reported, “Party insiders believe that a Gore campaign launched as late as October will still have enough time to raise money and challenge front-runners Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards.”

Is this a disclosure, or speculation?

oleblueraider - October 9, 2007 05:32 PM (GMT)
In a nation that mainly doesn't give a damn about royalty, Oscars, or a Nobel prize----why does anyone think that winning a peace prize, a prize won by Jimmy Carter and ya know what the collective minds think of Jimmy Carter??? :?: :wtf:

Why would a peace prize win do anything at all to propel Gore to run??? :wtf: :?:

I do not see this connection??? :read:

Shoot, what I see is the chorus of naysayers on the climate change is growing stronger, bolder, and better prepared to muddle, confuse and disallow the issue!

If I were Gore, I would be more concerned that Exxon and others were going to diffuse his momentum on the issue without his continuing attention to it directly and full time.

whybaby - October 9, 2007 05:39 PM (GMT)
I'd like to suggest another way of thinking about the Nobel Prize:

Al Gore would not base his decision to run or not run based on the prize.
And the American people would not base their decision to vote or not vote for him based on the prize.

I feel certain that he has withheld his announcement, not only to come in as late as possible, but also to not interfere with the Nobel voting process. They are apparently adverse to political pressure, and Al Gore's premature candidacy announcement ahead of the Nobel Peace Prize might have caused them to choose someone else. It's moot though; the decision has been made, as far as I know. So as far as I'm concerned, he can announce today or next week - just soon!

:good:

Wayne in WA State - October 9, 2007 06:14 PM (GMT)
I have to agree that Gore won't run or not based on who wins the Nobel prize. Yet there may be something about him not wanting to announce or shut the door until after the Nobel Prize results are announced. If he wins the Nobel, it may help him gain even more moral authority, not so much in this nation of yahoos, but across the planet.

People of Earth, the Tipping Point is Upon Us



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By MERAIAH FOLEY – 3 hours ago

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) — Worldwide economic growth has accelerated the level of greenhouse gas emissions to a dangerous threshold scientists had not expected for another decade, according to a leading Australian climate change expert.

Tim Flannery told Australian Broadcasting Corp. that an upcoming report by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change will contain new data showing that the level of climate-changing gases in the atmosphere has already reached critical levels.

Flannery is not a member of the IPCC, but said he based his comments on a thorough review of the technical data included in the panel's three working group reports published earlier this year. The IPCC is due to release its final report synthesizing the data in November.

"What the report establishes is that the amount of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is already above the threshold that can potentially cause dangerous climate change," Flannery told the broadcaster late Monday. "We are already at great risk of dangerous climate change, that's what these figures say. It's not next year or next decade, it's now."

Flannery, whose recent book "The Weather Makers: How Man Is Changing the Climate and What It Means for Life on Earth," made best-seller lists worldwide, said the data showed that the amount of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions had reached about 455 parts per million by mid-2005, well ahead of scientists' previous calculations.

"We thought we'd be at that threshold within about a decade, that we had that much time," Flannery said. "I mean, that's beyond the limits of projection, beyond the worst-case scenario as we thought of it in 2001," when the last major IPCC report was issued.

The new data could add urgency to the next round of U.N. climate change talks on the Indonesian island of Bali in December, which will aim to start negotiations on a replacement for the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012.

In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel called Tuesday for an international system of global emissions trading to be adopted as part of an agreement to flight climate change from 2012 onward.

Speaking at a symposium of Nobel laureates and other leading scientists, Merkel insisted that only by establishing limits on carbon dioxide output per individual around the world — suggesting about 2 tons per head — could the fight to stop global warming be effective.

"Our long-term goal can only be the assimilation of worldwide per capita emissions," Merkel told the conference.

Her suggestion would mean drastic cuts: Germany currently has a carbon dioxide output of some 11 tons per person per year, while the U.S. is at around 20 tons per person.

Flannery said that the recent economic boom in China and India has helped to accelerate the levels of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, but strong growth in the developed world has also exacerbated the problem.

"It's a worldwide issue. We've had growing economies everywhere, we're still basing that economic activity on fossil fuels," he said. "The metabolism of that economy is now on a collision course clearly with the metabolism of our planet."

A spokesman for Australia's IPCC delegate, Ian Carruthers, said he was not available to comment on the report because it was still in draft form.
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What we're asking for is a long-shot. Al Gore has never said he was going to run. He has said he had no plans to run. But dammit Al, we need you.

IanOC - October 9, 2007 10:29 PM (GMT)
This is really disturbing. I have feared that the problem with the climate change models is that they are too conservative, that the situation is more dire than we have realized, and now we seem to be seeing confirmation of this. The drastic reduction of the arctic sea ice is just the beginning. Only positive thing I can see is this may finally compel people to act.

Ian O'Corrain
www.gore-obama 2008.blogspot.com

Texan for Gore - October 9, 2007 11:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (IanOC @ Oct 9 2007, 04:29 PM)
This is really disturbing. I have feared that the problem with the climate change models is that they are too conservative, that the situation is more dire than we have realized, and now we seem to be seeing confirmation of this. The drastic reduction of the arctic sea ice is just the beginning. Only positive thing I can see is this may finally compel people to act.

Ian O'Corrain
www.gore-obama 2008.blogspot.com

What is really frustrating is the fact that unlike our own problems which we have more control over, with the climate crisis, we have to rely on each other to do our part. And when you have Exxon Mobil and the like screaming that it is a hoax, it puts our world in pretty bad shape.

ReElectAlGore2008 - October 10, 2007 12:07 AM (GMT)
What's even more depressing is, it is possible it is too late and nothing at all can actually change the dreaded outcome

The changes in weather (just in NYC alone the last week, from record 90s yesterday, it is suppose to be upper 30s in a few days) is just unreal.

TNblue - October 10, 2007 02:43 AM (GMT)
:!: I get it. I GET it. I FINALLY GET IT!! (it took a while to seep in)

What a brilliant "different kind of campaign" ole' Al is running. If indeed there was a strategy to waiting so long to announce, I think I just recognized how beautiful it is.

I plopped on the sofa for a few minutes and the Repug debate was on so I thought I'd just see what kinds of lies they were spewing. (I didn't realize that they have about 30 or 40 candidates :coolwink: ) Anyway, during the questioning most of them had to give an answer that dealt with environmental issues & right there in front of the world had to say out loud pretty much, if not verbatim, that global warming is real and something must be done soon.

Relevance? When Al announces no candidate from any party can shut him down by making global warming a partisan political issue. He has raised public awareness that has put enough pressure on all candidates to start singing his tune, just not loud enough, but enough to keep them from using his own work against him. Now their agreement is on film! Give-'em-enough-rope-and-they'll-hang-themselves!! :clap:

Time to announce your candidacy Mr. Gore. The coast is now clear!!.....and we're MORE than ready for take-off. Get us off this damned runway.

Wayne in WA State - October 10, 2007 05:55 AM (GMT)
Texan for Gore:
What is really frustrating is the fact that unlike our own problems which we have more control over, with the climate crisis, we have to rely on each other to do our part. And when you have Exxon Mobil and the like screaming that it is a hoax, it puts our world in pretty bad shape.

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As we know, and as Gore knows, the climate crisis cannot be solved by us individually, although we all play a part. We must work together as a community of nations. The world needs an American president who can play a pivotal role in negotiating new treaties and directing our American ingenuity towards solving this crisis.

With Al Gore as our President, together we CAN do it! :clap:




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