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ConnieInCleveland - October 5, 2007 05:47 PM (GMT)
What would it take to get Al Gore to join the race for '08? Isn't he scared for us all? Doesn't he see what is being done in our name (American)? Does he see anyone else running who can speak for me? I had almost given up hope. I have been so afraid of what George W. Bush is doing to this country. I have been so afraid he will start another war with Iran. I have heard the neocons beating the war drums. I have heard them talk about tactical nukes. What will that do to the environment? Who would have thought we would be occupiers in a country that did not attack us? We need Al Gore today! Not tomorrow! TODAY! I'm sure these questions have been asked, but I just have to scream, PLEASE HELP!!

Al,
Didn't ya get the memo? YA HAFTA RUN! YOU CAN'T ABANDON US! IT'S AGAINST THE RULES!

AlGoreFan - October 5, 2007 07:44 PM (GMT)
10/17 in Chicago.

ConnieInCleveland - October 5, 2007 07:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 5 2007, 01:44 PM)
10/17 in Chicago.

I don't know if I can wait that long???? It seems almost too much to pray for! I have faith. I don't think he can let America down. He knows what we are going through. Fear, fear, fear.
Unfortunately what George W. has done gives us much to fear. Much more to fear than fear itself.
In case someone from Al Gore's family reads these posts, tell him we need him. What would tactical nukes do to the environment? The world? Us?

ReElectAlGore2008 - October 7, 2007 11:11 AM (GMT)
Damned if I know.

The threats against him and the family

But then, in the past true visionaries had those same threats and knew what was around the corner and continued the fight, and though those outcomes happened, it directly helped to change the nation's perception of things for the better, and it repudiated Nixon in the end.

Bush family needs to be repudiated so that Jeb does not happen.
Only now a visionary can do that.

What will it take?

Will it be a 3rd. party run for President which doesn't need an answer til June08 so that one could run a shadow candidacy til then?(though by June08 it just might be too late).

Wayne in WA State - October 7, 2007 04:32 PM (GMT)
Whatever else we might consider Al Gore will never be on a 3rd party ticket. Like oleblueraider says, Gore will go to his grave as a Democrat. :spikey:

ReElectAlGore2008 - October 7, 2007 04:37 PM (GMT)
That is a real shame

Because the democrats are not the ones his father brought him up with

These are trojan horses all of them. Anti-democrats.
Traitors to what a democrat meant
From Bill to Terry McAuliffe to Hillary to Reid to Pelosi to Edwards to all of them, they do nothing and theyshowed in 2006 their true colors to how they dealt with Ned Lamont
They all supported Lieberman and Lieberman is a traitor

An independent run on the Unity08 ticket does not go against any belief, it furthers the belief that America comes FIRST, that constitution means something

Allowing Hillary to win means diddleysquat to the democrats. She is not one of me.
She is and always will be that college girl Barry Goldwater Groupie...she has not changed, its the former democratic party of Terry McAuliffe that sold out. We and Al Gore owes them NOTHING

ConnieInCleveland - October 7, 2007 06:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Oct 7 2007, 10:32 AM)
Whatever else we might consider Al Gore will never be on a 3rd party ticket. Like oleblueraider says, Gore will go to his grave as a Democrat. :spikey:

I hope Al Gore runs. I am a Democrat, but I am an American first. I personally am tired of politics as usual. I think it's time to correct the course we have been traveling. A divided America is not working for anyone. I thought when we elected Democrats to Congress, we would see changes. Unforuntately, we are not. I want Al Gore to lead by example. It's going to take more than mere politics to correct what George W. has done to the country.

America doesn't just need another voice. America needs a SCREAM. We need someone to SCREAM now, NOT IN MY NAME! I don't want to be part of another war of aggression. I want Al Gore to come in SCREAMING, NOT IN OUR NAME! STOP THE WAR DRUMS WITH IRAN! If these guys are allowed to bomb Iran, it won't matter who is President. Just bend over and kiss your but goodbye! Life will never be the same.

ConnieInCleveland - October 7, 2007 06:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Oct 7 2007, 10:37 AM)
That is a real shame

Because the democrats are not the ones his father brought him up with

These are trojan horses all of them. Anti-democrats.
Traitors to what a democrat meant
From Bill to Terry McAuliffe to Hillary to Reid to Pelosi to Edwards to all of them, they do nothing and theyshowed in 2006 their true colors to how they dealt with Ned Lamont
They all supported Lieberman and Lieberman is a traitor

An independent run on the Unity08 ticket does not go against any belief, it furthers the belief that America comes FIRST, that constitution means something

Allowing Hillary to win means diddleysquat to the democrats. She is not one of me.
She is and always will be that college girl Barry Goldwater Groupie...she has not changed, its the former democratic party of Terry McAuliffe that sold out. We and Al Gore owes them NOTHING

Amen!

AlGoreFan - October 7, 2007 08:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 7 2007, 12:52 PM)
QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Oct 7 2007, 10:37 AM)
We and Al Gore owes them NOTHING

Amen!

What's the matter? Doesn't Unity08 or whomever have a board for this? Al Gore is a DEMOCRAT.

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 12:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 7 2007, 02:12 PM)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 7 2007, 12:52 PM)
QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Oct 7 2007, 10:37 AM)
We and Al Gore owes them NOTHING

Amen!

What's the matter? Doesn't Unity08 or whomever have a board for this? Al Gore is a DEMOCRAT.

Unity '08 is set up to nominate candidates. They do require that the candidate is willing to run. They won't nominate anyone who says they don't want to run. I think Unity '08 is for new candidates. Al Gore is a candidate unto himself. Even if he runs as a democrat, I don't want him to exclude all republicans.

I want a candidate that will take control of the government and go back to Constitution rules. I have heard him speak of the Constitutional questions like no democrat or republican. I want a leader, not a party.

I wouldn't mind him choosing Colin Powell if he weren't so closely tied to the early Bush administration. If hearings ever start, he is as culpable as the rest. He came clean too late to be absolved of his wrong doings. He assisted in misleading America.

TNblue - October 8, 2007 12:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 7 2007, 12:50 PM)
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America doesn't just need another voice.  America needs a SCREAM.  We need someone to SCREAM now, NOT IN MY NAME!  I don't want to be part of another war of aggression.  I want Al Gore to come in SCREAMING, NOT IN OUR NAME!  STOP THE WAR DRUMS WITH IRAN!  If these guys are allowed to bomb Iran, it won't matter who is President.  Just bend over and kiss your but goodbye!  Life will never be the same.


And here's just one of many reasons why we might not want to engage yet another country in war. This weekend I received a recruitment letter from the army. Don't get me wrong, I'm (hopefully) quite a ways from the nursing home, but way too old for that kind of scene. If it's come to raising and lowering the ages of people who are being recruited, then we're in a heap of trouble.

I don't really know what I'm talking about here, but those thoughts crossed my mind when I read the letter. :rolleyes:

AlGoreFan - October 8, 2007 01:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 7 2007, 06:15 PM)
Al Gore is a candidate unto himself. Even if he runs as a democrat, I don't want him to exclude all republicans.

Al Gore is a Democrat.

A DEMOCRAT.

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ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 01:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (TNblue @ Oct 7 2007, 06:30 PM)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 7 2007, 12:50 PM)
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America doesn't just need another voice.  America needs a SCREAM.  We need someone to SCREAM now, NOT IN MY NAME!  I don't want to be part of another war of aggression.  I want Al Gore to come in SCREAMING, NOT IN OUR NAME!  STOP THE WAR DRUMS WITH IRAN!  If these guys are allowed to bomb Iran, it won't matter who is President.  Just bend over and kiss your but goodbye!  Life will never be the same.


And here's just one of many reasons why we might not want to engage yet another country in war. This weekend I received a recruitment letter from the army. Don't get me wrong, I'm (hopefully) quite a ways from the nursing home, but way too old for that kind of scene. If it's come to raising and lowering the ages of people who are being recruited, then we're in a heap of trouble.

I don't really know what I'm talking about here, but those thoughts crossed my mind when I read the letter. :rolleyes:

If this Administration follows through and uses tactical nukes to strike Iran, they will be giving the "It's for our freedom" speech, and they will have to start the draft. I heard during WWII they went up to 42? Not sure, what age, but I think if they get us into WWIII, no one knows. You can bet they will be in their comfortable chairs playing remote control war games.

The things reported on the web should make everyone afraid. The depleted uranium is affecting our soldiers and their children. Pictures of deformed children have been posted giving credit to depleted uranium. Unfortunately, our government will not release the informaton. There are so many things that have not been reported.

To date, I don't see anyone willing or able to stop the drum beat toward Iran. If Al Gore doesn't start soon, it may be too late to worry. We will be at war. Not shopping at the mall like the Iraq war. I think this war will bring it here.

Have you ever thought about, if an Iraqi would come here and do something. Would it be a terrorist act, or an act of war. Who says it has to stay on their soil. I don't want to be a refugee!!!!! I like my home, I like America, I like my family, I don't want to pay for the mistakes made by these greedy neocons.

America needs something to WAKE US FROM OUR SLUMBER!!! SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IRAQ, LET ALONE IRAN.

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 01:55 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 7 2007, 07:46 PM)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 7 2007, 06:15 PM)
Al Gore is a candidate unto himself.  Even if he runs as a democrat, I don't want him to exclude all republicans.

Al Gore is a Democrat.

A DEMOCRAT.

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Okay, saw the PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT STICKERS. One question, what makes you so proud. I'm 52 years old, I vote democrat, but proud I'm not! What are you so proud of? I tried before we went into Iraq, I wrote letters, I SCREAMED, democrats didn't help! They actually enabled this Administration. Not holding him accountable, giving Bush everything he wants. That makes you proud? Why? Maybe some real leadership? To date they are not holding up the constitution and following the rules. If they were Bush would be on trial, under oath! No Proud is not what I feel. Humped and abandoned maybe?

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 02:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 7 2007, 07:46 PM)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 7 2007, 06:15 PM)
Al Gore is a candidate unto himself.  Even if he runs as a democrat, I don't want him to exclude all republicans.

Al Gore is a Democrat.

A DEMOCRAT.

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So are you just filling space? One proud to be democrat was good enough. Sorry if suggesting something different scares you, but many things scare me. Democrats do not give me peace! All democrats do not speak for me! The all or nothing mentality is what is destroying America! DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN, why do we always have to have a looser. No wonder everyone dislikes everyone else. I want a candidate that unites Americans, not just gets one party into office over the other. Stop the corruption and go from there.

AlGoreFan - October 8, 2007 02:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 7 2007, 08:03 PM)
Stop the corruption and go from there.

Are you ignoring that Democrats are doing everything they can to stop the Repug madness but are blocked and filibustered....... then blamed for inaction? It is a Repug propaganda machine, don't tell me you bought it?

AlGoreFan - October 8, 2007 03:01 AM (GMT)
BTW, Gore is the answer but he will not run as anything but a glorious DEMOCRAT. You'll see. :clap:

ReElectAlGore2008 - October 8, 2007 07:40 AM (GMT)
Democrats that call themselves that today
HAVE DONE NOTHING TO STOP THE EVIL EMPIRE BUSH Has created.

AND NO DEMOCRAT STOOD WITH AL GORE DURING THE RECOUNT EXCEPT FOR
SEN. BOB GRAHAM
NO ONE ELSE DID...Not Bill, NOt Hillary, Not Kerry, Not Edwards, especially not Goofy Grin Terry McAuliffe, nobody.

This board is FOR AL GORE

NOWHERE does it say DEMOCRAT

I have never in my life voted for anyone BUT a DEMOCRAT before, but in 2008
I will NOT vote democratic unless the correct candidate is nominated

Hillary WILL win in 2008 unless Al Gore runs
No matter who I vote for otherwise, if Al Gore don't run, Hillary will win
therefore my vote does not matter

It did not matter in 2000, 2002,2004,2006

NED LAMONT was the democrat
Did JOE THE RED TRAITOR care what the democrats wanted?
NO. He stole the race Ned won.
End of story. Why was he not kicked out of the Democratic party, on important issues he votes 100percent Bush?

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi took impeachment off the table of the most corrupt impeachable president in history. Why?????
Bill Clinton swept Bush41's dirt under the rug, enabling Bush43 to take office
Hillary will lead to Jeb winning in 2016(if not 2012).
Aren't we tired of 2 families owning the world for 30 years?
I did NOT like Bill Clinton (and voted in 1992 for Jerry Brown in the primary),but wanted Mario Cuomo to run(Mario is one of the forces behind Unity08 btw.)

And this board is NOT for those people. It is solely for Al Gore.

I will write in Jimmy Carter's name if Al Gore's is not on the ballot in 2008
Because Jimmy Carter was the last person/President who told us the truth.
We were just too stupid to listen when we had a great man as the President.
There was a great malaise in America during that time period (most of it solely because of behind the scene shenanigans by the Bushfamily with Iran/Contra)

And the same family is causing a great malaise in the world in 2008.
God Blessed us with President Carter, and boy were we stupid to ignore what he said then and now. He has never lied to us. Not once.
And more and more people see what a great man and leader he was.(Last year there was a new poll of all the Presidents, and President Carter came in at #16, ahead of Clinton,Bush41,Bush43 and in the future, he will be even higher in the top 10.
Some of those shenanigans that helped bring his presidency down was not only due to the Bush/Reagan republicans, but the Democrats too.
President Carter should have won reelection in 1980, and Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton/Bush never would have happened at all

(And everything he says about the MidEast is 100percent correct too, everything
and I am Jewish btw.

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 11:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Oct 8 2007, 01:40 AM)
Democrats that call themselves that today
HAVE DONE NOTHING TO STOP THE EVIL EMPIRE BUSH Has created.

AND NO DEMOCRAT STOOD WITH AL GORE DURING THE RECOUNT EXCEPT FOR
SEN. BOB GRAHAM
NO ONE ELSE DID...Not Bill, NOt Hillary, Not Kerry, Not Edwards, especially not Goofy Grin Terry McAuliffe, nobody.

This board is FOR AL GORE

NOWHERE does it say DEMOCRAT

I have never in my life voted for anyone BUT a DEMOCRAT before, but in 2008
I will NOT vote democratic unless the correct candidate is nominated

Hillary WILL win in 2008 unless Al Gore runs
No matter who I vote for otherwise, if Al Gore don't run, Hillary will win
therefore my vote does not matter

It did not matter in 2000, 2002,2004,2006

NED LAMONT was the democrat
Did JOE THE RED TRAITOR care what the democrats wanted?
NO. He stole the race Ned won.
End of story. Why was he not kicked out of the Democratic party, on important issues he votes 100percent Bush?

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi took impeachment off the table of the most corrupt impeachable president in history. Why?????
Bill Clinton swept Bush41's dirt under the rug, enabling Bush43 to take office
Hillary will lead to Jeb winning in 2016(if not 2012).
Aren't we tired of 2 families owning the world for 30 years?
I did NOT like Bill Clinton (and voted in 1992 for Jerry Brown in the primary),but wanted Mario Cuomo to run(Mario is one of the forces behind Unity08 btw.)

And this board is NOT for those people. It is solely for Al Gore.

I will write in Jimmy Carter's name if Al Gore's is not on the ballot in 2008
Because Jimmy Carter was the last person/President who told us the truth.
We were just too stupid to listen when we had a great man as the President.
There was a great malaise in America during that time period (most of it solely because of behind the scene shenanigans by the Bushfamily with Iran/Contra)

And the same family is causing a great malaise in the world in 2008.
God Blessed us with President Carter, and boy were we stupid to ignore what he said then and now. He has never lied to us. Not once.
And more and more people see what a great man and leader he was.(Last year there was a new poll of all the Presidents, and President Carter came in at #16, ahead of Clinton,Bush41,Bush43 and in the future, he will be even higher in the top 10.
Some of those shenanigans that helped bring his presidency down was not only due to the Bush/Reagan republicans, but the Democrats too.
President Carter should have won reelection in 1980, and Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton/Bush never would have happened at all

(And everything he says about the MidEast is 100percent correct too, everything
and I am Jewish btw.

I too am a Democrat, but I think Hillary is just another pedal from the same bush. I would like to see Al Gore run as a Democrat, but I would vote for him however he runs. The story of how the Democrats tried, but the Republicans stopped them, then they gave George W. everything he wanted is hogwash. HOGWASH! If they would have tried, they could have gotten something!

We are no better off today than this time last year! Nancy Pelosi is a disappointment. Murtha, Webb and a few others tried, but they were not assisted by the other democrats. I think they are all too worried about themselves, or scared! Too pre-occupied with '08! Positioning! We need representative not positioners.


TNblue - October 8, 2007 03:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Oct 8 2007, 01:40 AM)

This board is FOR AL GORE

NOWHERE does it say DEMOCRAT



Eeeeeexactly!! :good:

You know I love to quote the other wise man I admire, Jimmy Buffett.

(From "Only Time Will Tell")

Are we destined to be ruled by a bunch of old white men
Who compare the world to football and are programmed to defend
:football:

Wayne in WA State - October 8, 2007 03:55 PM (GMT)
Al Gore recently sent out letters asking us to donate to the Democratic National Committee, The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. If it was not for the extremely counter-productive 3rd Party run for President by Ralph Nader, President Gore would be in the White House right now instead of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

There's plenty wrong with the Democratic Party. Let's fix it, not give up on the only real hope for America. You can take it to the bank; Al Gore will never run as anything but an American Democrat.

my two cents

marla - October 8, 2007 04:53 PM (GMT)
Gore is doing a fund raiser later this week for Boxer too is it Friday night?? I would have to check. He is a solid democrat and won't change. He is one of those hopeful people who believes we can change things if we all try. At the end of Assault on Reason he talks about it taking all of us working together to fix things.

In this day and age of cynical hardness its easier sometimes to believe bad will always win...but hope is what gives us all strength to go on to the next day no matter what your hope is in. A candidate filled with hope and can put that in others is a big thing. I think thats why Obama has such a big following.




ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 05:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Oct 8 2007, 09:55 AM)
Al Gore recently sent out letters asking us to donate to the Democratic National Committee, The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. If it was not for the extremely counter-productive 3rd Party run for President by Ralph Nader, President Gore would be in the White House right now instead of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

There's plenty wrong with the Democratic Party. Let's fix it, not give up on the only real hope for America. You can take it to the bank; Al Gore will never run as anything but an American Democrat.

my two cents

I don't want anyone to leave the Democratic party. I personally don't believe Ralph Nader cost Al Gore the election. It was the Supreme Court, the butterfly ballot, Jeb Bush, etc. Not just Ralph Nader. I liked Ralph Nader when he stood up to corporate America. Al Gore would not be a Ralph Nader, Al Gore is Al Gore! Ralph Nader had not been elected before and had his win stollen by the Supreme Court.

I hope Ralph Nader is not a reason to stick it to America in the future. I don't think Al Gore will run as a Democrat against Hillary Clinton. I personally don't care what he runs as "AMERICAN WORKS FOR ME".

ReElectAlGore2008 - October 8, 2007 05:40 PM (GMT)
Nader did NOT cost Al the election

He WON THE POPULAR VOTE
HE WON FLORIDA
MEANING HE WON THE ELECTORAL VOTE

He is the winner.
Even the 1st part of the Supreme Court verdict said
SEND IT BACK TO FLORIDA 7 TO 2

It was the freakin' 2nd part that threw the election
When 5 to 4 (5 traitors to the US Constitution) said
Nah,nah, nah, nah nah, too bad, times up, go f--k yourself, there is no time left (and they released it the last minute that night).

Had Florida got the last word, we all know Al Gore would have moved ahead

Had those professional REPUBLICAN AGITATORS FROM TOM DELAY'S STAFF NOT CROSSED STATE LINES and banged on the G-d damn windows pretending to be regular people
AL GORE WOULD HAVE MOVED AHEAD IN THE RECOUNT AND BEEN SEATED

Al won in 2000.
Al has got to run in 2008 to right the wrong that was done.
And I don't GAS which party he runs with so long as it is done

Not one democrat (besides Bob Graham of Florida) did anything to help Al during the recount.
We and He owe them nothing. And indirectly, it has been proven that the intent of the man I have called a traitorNader was correct, that BOTH PARTIES are the problem that needs to be fixed.

My button says Re-elect Al Gore in 2008. Nowhere on my button does it say Democrat
The people can elect Al on a different line. IF the election vote is a fair count
(and if it isn't,and there is a theft again, well, then what will be will be and Hillary will win anyhow, so what difference would it make if one took a stand against that?)

Wayne in WA State - October 8, 2007 06:11 PM (GMT)
Without Nader's campaign Gore would have won Florida and New Hampshire by a theft-proof margin. Most of us understand that without Nader running George W. Bush would never have been able to steal the 2000 election. Our buddy Ralph Nader told us Bush and Gore were the same. There's no need to make excuses for Nader. No one here has to be a Democrat, but think clearly about Al Gore. He has never supported any candidates for office who were not Democrats. America, unfortunately, is not a liberal country. Republicans are always going to be tough to defeat. Any split on the progressive side will be a godsend to the Republicans. I told people back in 2000 before it happened and it's still true today: Vote Nader -- Elect Bush :spikey:

I hope there is a 3rd party candidate in 2008, as long as it's a candidate on the right. :mad:

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 06:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 7 2007, 08:51 PM)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 7 2007, 08:03 PM)
Stop the corruption and go from there.

Are you ignoring that Democrats are doing everything they can to stop the Repug madness but are blocked and filibustered....... then blamed for inaction? It is a Repug propaganda machine, don't tell me you bought it?

I don't buy anything the republicans have to say. I'm not buying what the democrats are saying either. I have thought about it, they should be doing stuff now, not positioning for '08. Nancy Pelosi should not have taken impeachment off the table. Although Impeachment is less than I want. I want them under oath. Why have they all been able to escape testifying under oath? They all worried about positioning for '08, '08 may be too late.

Plus the democrats have voted for what Bush wanted. Sorry but they have shown no spine after winning. Even Conyers who I watched in the basement, has not done anything. Sorry, but Democrats aren't great either. Their greatness is in the minds of people from the past (the old America). Today the world is different, America is different. This is not the country that made me proud, I am ashamed for what has been done in my name (American). I am no prouder of the Democrats. They are not SCREAMING FOR ME! THEY ARE POSITIONING FOR THEMSELVES! GETTING DONORS, NOT VOTERS!

Wayne in WA State - October 8, 2007 06:22 PM (GMT)
Connie, I largely agree with you :Y:

A lot of Democrats are not doing enough. But it's also the case that there's a deliberate effort by the Pugs to filibuster and veto everything the Dems try to do and then turn the Democratic voters against their own Representatives and claim that we have a 'do-nothing' Congress. I think it's more accurate to say we have a policy by the Republicans to push a 'block-everything' policy so that they can blame us in 2008.

Ralph Nader, obviously he's a touchy subject and I'm still angry.

Al Gore Democrats United for Victory in 2008

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 06:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (marla @ Oct 8 2007, 10:53 AM)
Gore is doing a fund raiser later this week for Boxer too is it Friday night?? I would have to check. He is a solid democrat and won't change. He is one of those hopeful people who believes we can change things if we all try. At the end of Assault on Reason he talks about it taking all of us working together to fix things.

In this day and age of cynical hardness its easier sometimes to believe bad will always win...but hope is what gives us all strength to go on to the next day no matter what your hope is in. A candidate filled with hope and can put that in others is a big thing. I think thats why Obama has such a big following.

From the end of his book, "it will take us all to change things", I don't think he was referring to a party, I think he was talking to Americans --- ALL OF US!

I think both parties fear Al Gore not running on a party line, it would draw from them all and they know it! Maybe he could bring in ALL AMERICANS! WE NEED A 'UNITED' STATES, not Republican or Democrat state. The spinning by both parties is making Americans dizzy.

I trust Al Gore, I don't care who he runs with, he would get my vote.

He could start a conversation thoughout America that could last into the future, not just '08. A sellout croud anywhere he went. Talking Truth to Power, not Party!

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 06:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Oct 8 2007, 12:22 PM)
Connie, I largely agree with you :Y:

A lot of Democrats are not doing enough. But it's also the case that there's a deliberate effort by the Pugs to filibuster and veto everything the Dems try to do and then turn the Democratic voters against their own Representatives and claim that we have a 'do-nothing' Congress. I think it's more accurate to say we have a policy by the Republicans to push a 'block-everything' policy so that they can blame us in 2008.

Ralph Nader, obviously he's a touchy subject and I'm still angry.

Al Gore Democrats United for Victory in 2008

Al Gore has surpassed Democrats for Gore in '08. I have friends that are Americans for Gore '08. I know republicans that would vote for him. I know independents that would vote for him.

ReElectAlGore2008 - October 8, 2007 06:43 PM (GMT)
Had John McCain accepted what I will always believe was a signed deal with Kerry, then reneged on at last minute, the fusion ticket would have won 80 percent in 2004.
But it didn't happen.

How many Bilderberger's do we need in the White House?
Clinton=Bush
Bush=Clinton
dem=repub
repub=dem

They are all in on the take.

Time to sweep ALL the in's out and bring the out's in.

It only takes ONE person to bring charges and no one is stepping forward in power

That it would not pass is irrelevant. That just means they don't believe they need to do it.

Al Gore repudiated the Clinton's back in 2000 by not needing nor wanting their help. He was then and is now free of the dirt

The Clinton's own the Terry McAuliffe party (Terry has been going around telling people Hillary has won already).
They have no loyalty to the people
And today, Sandy Berger is again advising Hillary

Aren't we tired of all the scandals...

I like the line on SNL this week on the news
"Hillary has raised 26 million dollars, some of it legally"
Isn't it time to say NO to the party of the Clinton's? Tell them Party is over? NOW! :spikey:
I will NOT vote for them.They will not undo the patriot act, not undo the war, and Hillary will most likely start a draft to proove she is strong. She & Joe Lieberman :wtf: might be the ticket. :spikey:
Hillary will directly lead to Jeb12 or Jeb16
Not for me.

Paid for by the committee to get the Bush's and Clinton's into retirement a long long way from the White House in Jan.09 :tongue:

JamesAquila - October 8, 2007 06:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 7 2007, 09:51 PM)
Are you ignoring that Democrats are doing everything they can to stop the Repug madness but are blocked and filibustered....... then blamed for inaction? It is a Repug propaganda machine, don't tell me you bought it?

I agree with you 100%.

When Republicans stand firm, they are called strong and gutsy by the MSN. When Dems do the same they are called Obstructionists.

When Republicans join with the Dems, the press calls them Bi-partisan putting the good of the country before party politics. When the Dems do so, they are called spineless and accused of caving in.

It's all a matter of semantics.

The GOP in the Senate have launched a more fillibusters in the last 7 months than the Dems did in the previous 5 years. Yet you wouldn't know that from the MSN. They are not reporting it.

JamesAquila - October 8, 2007 06:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 7 2007, 10:01 PM)
BTW, Gore is the answer but he will not run as anything but a glorious DEMOCRAT. You'll see. :clap:

Once again agree with you 100%.

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 06:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JamesAquila @ Oct 8 2007, 12:47 PM)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 7 2007, 09:51 PM)
Are you ignoring that Democrats are doing everything they can to stop the Repug madness but are blocked and filibustered....... then blamed for inaction?  It is a Repug propaganda machine, don't tell me you bought it?

I agree with you 100%.

When Republicans stand firm, they are called strong and gutsy by the MSN. When Dems do the same they are called Obstructionists.

When Republicans join with the Dems, the press calls them Bi-partisan putting the good of the country before party politics. When the Dems do so, they are called spineless and accused of caving in.

It's all a matter of semantics.

The GOP in the Senate have launched a more fillibusters in the last 7 months than the Dems did in the previous 5 years. Yet you wouldn't know that from the MSN. They are not reporting it.

Mainstream media was the problem in 2000 and they remain the problem in '08! I hope mainstream media is the one of the first issue Al Gore takes on. He will have a voice, he needs to challenge them from day one! Don't let them equate spin and fact as equal. Show them to be the traitors that they are. Jon Stewart did a wonderful job on Chris Matthews. I loved his comment, 'No thanks, I don't troll'. I have been posting on Huffingtonpost.com for a few weeks now and I find a troll almost every time I post. Cute litte outfits, but their collars are too tight, it chokes off the oxygen to their brains.

JamesAquila - October 8, 2007 06:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 8 2007, 12:23 PM)
I personally don't believe Ralph Nader cost Al Gore the election.

Nader cost Gore New Hampshire and made Florida close enough for Bush to steal it. Even if 95% of Nader's voters had stayed home, the remaining 5% would have been enough votes to swing NH to Gore and prevent the recount in Florida. And unlike Perot voters who split 50/50 for Clinton or Bush when asked their second choice, the overwhemling majority of Nader votes would have supported Gore.

What's worse is that Nader accepted money from known GOP fundraisers and used that money to run ads that lied about Gore.

JamesAquila - October 8, 2007 07:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Oct 8 2007, 01:11 PM)
I hope there is a 3rd party candidate in 2008, as long as it's a candidate on the right. :mad:

While that would be great I really want to see a straight Dem vs. GOP election.

Remember in 1992, the GOP questioned Clinton's legitimacy because of the Perot factor. I don't want that happening again.

ReElectAlGore2008 - October 8, 2007 07:06 PM (GMT)
Al Gore had more than 50,000 votes disappear in Florida

There was a reason Florida was called FOR Al Gore election even 2000, it was so far ahead it wasn't funny

They stole it.

And it wasn't Buchanan's votes, wasn't the butterfly ballots, wasn't Nader per se, it was the outright disappearance

Remember Jeb on tv telling Poppy it is a guarantee, something is wrong, they will fix it and W will win? That was the theft.

And NO Democrat helped Al those long lonely weeks while he fought for ME and you. The Democrats wished he would shut up and go home and play ball with them.

That was courage.
Clinton only was seated because of Perot. He got less than 45 percent of the vote.
It took Perot both times to throw the election to Clinton.
Perot if he wasn't labeled nuts, could have won

the people if their vote counts can elect Al Gore on a non-political party to change America back to what it is.
Party labels are passe in 2007. Because both parties in 2007 are now the same, proving Nader correct right now in time.



ReElectAlGore2008 - October 8, 2007 07:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JamesAquila @ Oct 8 2007, 03:02 PM)
QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Oct 8 2007, 01:11 PM)
I hope there is a 3rd party candidate in 2008, as long as it's a candidate on the right.  :mad:

While that would be great I really want to see a straight Dem vs. GOP election.

Remember in 1992, the GOP questioned Clinton's legitimacy because of the Perot factor. I don't want that happening again.

You worry too much what the Bush people spin will say.

Worry more that the people want their say, and can do it independent of the ONE party that is in America- the Anti-Constutional Party that exists today with members of both parties united against the Constituion(like Lieberman and many others). That is what today's Dems/Repubs. are. They are syncophants to a corrupt system unlike ever in USA history.
There have been other major parties in the past.

Evolution(which Democrats believe in,unlike the ridiculous fundamentalist radicals on the right) can lead to a different name for a better America in 2008 and toss the old corrupt names in the trash can.

Maybe we could call it the AlGoreparty...Goreocrats,Alicans...maybe we can just call them Americans.

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 07:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JamesAquila @ Oct 8 2007, 12:59 PM)
QUOTE (ConnieInCleveland @ Oct 8 2007, 12:23 PM)
I personally don't believe Ralph Nader cost Al Gore the election.

Nader cost Gore New Hampshire and made Florida close enough for Bush to steal it. Even if 95% of Nader's voters had stayed home, the remaining 5% would have been enough votes to swing NH to Gore and prevent the recount in Florida. And unlike Perot voters who split 50/50 for Clinton or Bush when asked their second choice, the overwhemling majority of Nader votes would have supported Gore.

What's worse is that Nader accepted money from known GOP fundraisers and used that money to run ads that lied about Gore.

Okay, the Supreme Court gave George W. the Presidency because of Ralph Nader. Don't think so, but it does not change my views about Al Gore! I can tell you are as concerned as I am. We both must care or we wouldn't be here trying to talk. I love talking politics and Al Gore. I think it is what keeps me from hiding in my basement. I must admit, the Democrats who have a shot at the nomination scare the poop out of me also. Hillary is a warmonger also! Bill and daddy Bush are friends now, I don't think she will pursue how we got into the situation we are in now, she's not going to go after Bill's friends son. I don't think we should go forward till we revisit the past. The OH WELL, WE'RE HERE NOW doesn't work for me. ACCOUNTABILITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, TESTIMONY UNDER OATH. IF IT WAS ALL LEGAL, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR, BUT FEAR IT'S SELF.

ConnieInCleveland - October 8, 2007 07:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JamesAquila @ Oct 8 2007, 01:02 PM)
QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Oct 8 2007, 01:11 PM)
I hope there is a 3rd party candidate in 2008, as long as it's a candidate on the right.  :mad:

While that would be great I really want to see a straight Dem vs. GOP election.

Remember in 1992, the GOP questioned Clinton's legitimacy because of the Perot factor. I don't want that happening again.

Refresh my memory, what does Perot have to do with Clinton?

Why is a straight democratic ticket so great? Have we ever had a strong Democrat and Republican joining together to stop a war of aggression? How do we know what Americans will think?

oleblueraider - October 8, 2007 08:15 PM (GMT)
Perot split the vote away from mainly Republicans during the Clinton/Gore elections making Bill Clinton the only man elected president for two terms that a Majority of Americans DID NOT VOTE FOR!

In modern times, perhaps even since the Civil War, no ticket has composed a Democrat and a Reoublican.

Oh sure its a great idea, in another galaxy, but it ain't happening here homey!

Who does know what Americans think? less than 1/4 of could vote folks actually do? Some darn good arguments that those who don't vote, should not vote either, depends????

Turn 500,000 people into the streets for around 5-7 years and you can stop a war????




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