http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/...a-dose-of-gore/


October 4, 2007

NBC's '30 Rock' to get a dose of Gore


Gore is set to make an appearance on the NBC show '30 Rock'

NEW YORK (CNN) — Former Vice President Al Gore is expected to make an appearance on the NBC comedy show "30 Rock" in November. Gore was in New York last week to tape the episode, and a Gore spokeswoman says "he did have a great time".

Gore's office anticipates the episode will air as part of, what it called, NBC's upcoming "Green is Universal" week of environmentally-based programming, Nov. 4 - 10.

NBC would not comment on the story.

As to what role the 2000 Democratic presidential nominee plays on the show or what the plot entails, "you gotta watch the show," says Gore spokeswoman Kalee Kreider.

– CNN Producer Shirley Zilberstein

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10042007/tv/go...ing_up_rock.htm


GORE WARMING UP 'ROCK'



October 4, 2007 -- FORMER vice president Al Gore is expected to appear on an upcoming episode of the NBC sitcom, "30 Rock." Gore recently taped his brief appearance on the show.

Gore's guest spot is likely to appear during the fifth episode of the season, according to the gossip Web site, Gawker.

During the taping of the episode, the cast was seen wearing "Gore '08" t-shirts.

NBC officials declined to comment.

If Al Gore was a candidate, he COULD NOT have this episode telecast

This is a most distressing turn of events

(look what they did to Thompson and his re-runs of Law and Order).

This is a very, very bad sign.

I agree. This is not a good sign of Gore's intentions. But it's not a Sherman statement. I don't think he would inform everyone that he is not running by appearing on a sit-com. If he wins the Nobel, if there is enough support for his candidacy, he can just jump in and 30Rock can cancel the episode or whatever.

This is discouraging. But I'm still hopeful.

I feel sick. :dripple:

I'm almost sorry I posted this. Now, I have to admit, I've heard of the show, but have never seen it. The episode which AL is supposed make his appearance isn't going to air until November and alot could change by then.

So would someone please tell me why this is sounding like the end of the world??? :?:

Had an afterthought. If Gore really isn't running, then it sounds like the show is making fun of US!! :bad:

If the show makes fun of us for wanting a progressive Democrat in the White House rather than a Republican or a cynical power-broker like Clinton, then damn them to hell and Earthmother-TNBlue'08!

I had to LMAO at your response, Ian. Maybe I'm just delirious out of my mind right now. Maybe Al wants to make it really look like he had no plans to run until right up til the day he announces. Then the episode will be pulled. That sounds better. :wacko:

EarthMother, I know the laws about equal time, but is this appearance really tantamount to a concession or Sherman Statement? Is there any way we could be misinterpreting the rules? Someone commented, and I agree, that if THIS is the way we find out about Sherman, then....I'll be very hurt and disappointed. People working and praying this hard should not be taken for granted, no matter how important the person on whose behalf the work is. What the heck is this guy afraid of? He says he would love to be at Point B. He is at Point A. So, lay it on the doggon line and go for it. I made the analogy last night. One should NOT walk indifferently past a man in cardiac arrest when he knows CPR. Where's his moral authority? for God's sake, RUN!!!!!

Today Law and Order was on TNT and Fred Thompson was in the show? Tomorrow two more shows of Law and Order are running. Whether Al taped a show will not make any difference. It will not stop him from running.

Do you really believe that Al Gore will step aside now with our Democracy at stake? I don't think so. Lets face facts if Al steps aside Hillary Clinton is nominated. I really think Al now knows what he plans to do. I don't think he will endorse anyone. I think we will here from Al after October 12.

Unless someone is elected in 2008 that shares Al's beliefs on Global Warming Al's goals will never be realized. That's why I believe Al will seek the POTUS. No one will be as passionate as Al is in solving the Global warming problem. Plus as we know Al was against the Iraq war from the start.

Al knows if he does not run then everything he has worked for on the issue of Global warming will be left in the hands of Hillary Clinton or the Republican's. That's not a choice I think Al finds hopeful. I will not give up on Al. He would have stopped the Draft movement if he was not running. Let's hope Im right.

gore for president :good: :clap:

I don't believe cable channels have to follow the same rules as network tv.

Thank you, GFP, for that pep talk. Everything you said really does make sense and is what I keep thinking too. Sure, Al has made a different in the climate crisis issue, but if he doesn't run, I'm afraid it will be all for nothing, because I don't think any of the other candidates will be concerned about doing anything about the environment. He's just got to run!!

:laugh: Thanks for the chuckle, IanOC! I needed that.

OK, so if Al doesn't run do Earthmother and I get all the Gore supporters? :coolwink:

Think about it though. If the show's theme has to do with the draft movement, then it must mean he has no intention of announcing until some time after it airs. We'd have to keep resetting the countdown threads, till :?:

Can't Alec Baldwin just impersonate Gore? He resembles him a great deal. :(

Tina Fey, what IS your intention? Let's just get it from the horse's mouth. Anybody know her personally?

This is exactly how I feel.

Am I missing something? So the crew members of 30 Rock were all wearing Gore '08 t-shirts. Maybe they just all support him and want him to run for president? Or maybe they were just having a little fun with Al (or maybe a little of both?)

Kat, I don't think you're missing anything. Al Gore appears as a guest on a popular show. The cast demonstrates their support. That's a good thing :blink:

Gore should want to keep his name in the public eye. Remember Bill Clinton going on the Arsenio Hall show and playing his saxophone? It's also a good thing that the cast wanted to wear Gore 08 shirts. Don't we want people to support him and to show it? :P

I agree with Kat and Wayne.

Gore '08 t-shirts = a GOOD thing.

Talk shows are NEWS shows

TNT is CABLE-and there were major articles on that fact when Fred announced.

One can make excuses and explanations all night, but that doesn't hide the truth

This wraps up a Democratic run for President

Let's be real folks- the FCC would shut down NBC for favoritism, just as quick as they character assassainated Dan Rather and CBS

Leno,Letterman, Meet the Press, Oprah, Regis, the News shows, etc. all have a
different standard, and all then invite everyone else.

A sit-com with just 21 episodes (maybe one or three more) does NOT have enough weeks in the year to invite all the major & minor candidates-don't forget, the Ron Pauls/ Dennis Kucinich/ Mike Gravel's & the Socialist parties would demand equal time or lead massive boycotts of the networks

I know entertainment doings, and this is like being stabbed in the back.

The only possiblity as said is that if Gore got in the race, this episode would be pulled (BUT) the expense in pulling an episode can be hundreds of thousands/millions of dollars
AND-most will not know this, but there is a possiblity of a major writer's strike coming that will cripple all of television and if that happens, there won't be any newly written episodes (which is why shows like 24,not starting to January), already has many episodes wrtitten/filmed) in anticipation of that strike.

Wayne-your answer just is not a feasable one in an era where every single network is 100percent scared of major reprocussions and lawsuits. This would engulf a Gore run and overshadow then anything Al would campaign on.

The only possiblity of an answer is, this show will air, and when it airs, Al Gore still will NOT be a candidate for President.
This is not debating back and forth and we can all laugh and argue...this is very, very bad news for us here hoping the world will be saved.

Someone should directly pose the question immediately to Al Gore about this
apparent "conflict of interest" with the American people
(but Hey, Al can now be nominated for another Emmy in 2008 and the awards can keep on coming(Best performance event in a sitcom supporting???).

If people are looking for reasons to be negative I'm sure you will be able to find them everywhere. I'll take a pass on that. One guest appearance on a TV show is not a problem AT ALL, it is a good thing. :spikey:

No, it's not being negative, nor about looking at anything other than the FACTS that are thrown at us, this being the latest.

It's being honest
And Al Gore is about being honest.

Being a pelican and burying one's head in the sand is where America has gotten itself deep into problems since 12-12-2000

Open and honest is what is needed

It is not about parsing words, not about looking slyly for alternate universe meaning of things.
This is black and white. This is now staring us in the face.

This 'one tv appearance" is NOT a good thing.
This is a very,very,very,very,very BAD thing for those that were hoping against hope of stopping Hillary from the DEMOCRATIC nomination for President.

Unless Al Gore immediately says this is NOT a true story, that he is NOT going to be on a Prime Time Network show, and unless all of a sudden you get 20 to 31 other "guest one time appearances" from all the other candidates announced and unannounced who might announce (and remember the possible writers strike that is around the corner could affect prime time tv for the next 6 months if it happens), so that all those appearances are also in the can, this is without a doubt, very bad news.
(And what entertainment show would put bores like Joe Biden and John Edwards and Chris Dodd and Ron Paul and Whatshisname Huckleberry, and Brownback,whoever he is...on an ENTERTAINMENT show???

Let's be real, folks. The fork is being stuck in.

Reelect, I agree with what Wayne says. We can be real next month. But until I hear something definitely from Al himself - or if I don't hear anything at all, by the end of the month, I will be real then. But I still believe he wouldn't just not say anything and we don't even know how much airtime he's going to be getting on this show. It may be just 30 seconds. At this point, I don't think it's a big deal. I'm just going to take the wait and see approach and stay positive. I'm not ready to say the Democratic run is wrapped up. Guess we'll know something by Halloween - er, the arrival or unarrival of the great pumpkin.... :wacko:

Never too early to start the Draft Al campaign for Unity08 w/ Bloomberg

Which is where I think he should be, that way he is totally a-political in a sense

Neither a democrat nor a republican just looking out for mankind

Who needs the DemoRats anyhow? They surely had no need for him when he needed them to back him

Well I concur! ;) This certainly appears to be no thought of running and therefore no thought needed on the implications of the timing of this episode? :unsure:

Now I do disagree, with the "extreme" expense of NOT airing the episode!!! :wacko:

It isn't any bother not to air it, in fact there are myriad ways to spin good publicity off of the enitre brou-ha-ha that might swim around that episode IF Gore declared a run? :read:

However, I take it as continued proof that he has not seriously thought of running! :wtf:

I do not take it a the Sherman statement indirect of not running either. He will make it clear, CLEAR I trust! :Y:

There is still a chance, but I have never felt that the draft Gore movement was anywhere close to a deciding factor! :dripple:

This is a high stakes gamble on his reputation for a 100 years! We are already forgotten by history, he will not be and I for one, in that position, juxtaposed against my Fathers legacy and my Mothers would wish to insure that I continued on the correct path! His faith in politics or love for it has been shaken! He truly marches to a different drummer and that is why we wish him so very badly! :good:

Isn't it a fraking shame that Gore won't make that third party run! I swear I may be letting my old dumb youthful hope cloud my judgement of political facts, but I think this just might could be the timing that pulled a third party Teddy off? Imagine the energy it would give youth and the real showing of how democracy could work again! :coolwink:

Of course, Gore seems to feel that it is the still dominant MSM that is in control and that it will change in 10 years, but not now. I have been strung out on Current since I got it and he may have said that it was not going to be a "Liberal" network. It is no doubt about it as liberal as San Fran and I just adore it. I get a real continued education from watching it! :clap:

I look foward to check out the episode.

I fail to see why a cameo on 30Rock is a death-blow to our hopes that Gore will run.

Here's another scenario: If Gore were to announce before that episode is shown to viewers, NBC can simply choose not to broadcast it. If that happens they'll have a "secret" Al Gore episode that people will know about and want to see. I guess we'll have to purchase the DVD. Good publicity all around. :lol:

What has been quoted is that Gore's appearance on the show is "brief."

If needed, a "brief" scene can be pulled and something else taped to put in its place. If it was thought that was possible, that replacement I'd bet is already in the can. Edit out the Gore scene, substitute the replacement.

Even if not planned for, its not impossible to substitute something at the last minute, depending on the script.

I can imagine a replacement about the concerns of equal time, etc..... what it does to the "show" about a show to deal with that....

You won't know until it airs or someone lets the cat out of the bag.

But it is NOT a need for another episode if that scene needs to be cut. If the script is written such that it's possible, it's a little extra work, an extra alternate scene, but its doable.

It might even be possible to sub footage from an Inconvenient Truth event, that I doubt would be cause for equal time.

I have questions about whether such an appearance, especially about the Green issue and not a campaign, would cross the line of the Fairness Doctrine.

If the cast of 30 Rock believed that Gore's appearance on the show signaled that he would not be running, do you think they would have chose to wear Gore 08 shirts? ;)

Now THAT is just about the best argument I've read yet on this subject!!

Surely they wouldn't jeopardize a run with a 30 second spot on a sit-com! They are supporting him and encouraging him by wearing the shirts - why would they risk it? That just makes no sense. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't LET him come on the show if they thought it would conflict.

Put it on a scale:
30 seconds with Al Gore as a guest
vs.
8 years with Al Gore as the President


And, let's be real here, how hard would it be for Tina Fey to rewrite that part of the show to have him "unexpectedly detained by bad weather in Seattle" or called away to an "emergency UN meeting".

This is not a problem.

Stuck in what? Not Gore, that's for sure. :rolleyes:

Maybe the report was wrong. If it's true, maybe they wore them as a joke, or because they want him to change his mind, or maybe because—unlike a bunch of political junkies—they aren’t familiar with the equal time law.

There’s no wiggle room here. If he’s going to be on the show—even for a cameo—all of the other candidates must be as well.

Hopefully we can change his mind and have them pull him from the episode, but if he's going to be on the show, and none of the other candidates are, he's not running.

That he even bothered taping the episode knowing that if he declared they’d have to pull it implies—very strongly—to me that he wasn’t considering becoming a candidate in 2008.

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Anon, I disagree you that. There have been a lot of good points made here. James mentioned the fact that there are 6 other Dems who will be appearing on NBC shows.

I can't help but feel you are trying you're best to be discouraging. Sorry.

I will be here until the end - til the proverbial fat lady sings - and I ain't heard no singing yet, so.... :coolwink:

James was joking.

About what? About the candidates being in these different shows? I didn't know that was the part he was joking about.

Anyway, there have been many explanations here and I fail to see how this will keep him out of the race. Hey, but that's just my opinion. If I'm wrong in the end, I'm not afraid to eat a little crow. Until then, it's Al Gore for President!!

Do they have to have the other candidates on the same show? NBC could offer the same 30 seconds or 1 min to all candidates on a news show.

You guys got me depressed earlier just thinking about him not running because I really don't see anyone else that could beat Hillary and the thought of her being president makes me sick.

I felt like I wanted to cry. Then I thought, what do we know, a bunch of rumors and stuff. All we can do is wait and see for a few more weeks.

I think we are all on edge. Earlier I felt like I did the day Kerry lost when I was afraid for our country. Felt sucker punched. :?:

James was joking about other candidates being on NBC shows.

This will keep Gore out of the race because it is illegal for him to be the only candidate to be on the show. NBC wouldn't allow it because they'd get sued like crazy.

AFAIK, for Gore to run, there are only 3 options:

1). NBC gets all the other candidates on for an equal amount of time (which is what James' joke was based on)
2). Gore declares before Nov. 8th (the day the show airs) and asks NBC to pull his cameo
3). Gore declares after Nov. 8th (which means he wouldn't be on a bunch of primary ballots, including NH)

Anon, please see the post I made on "Gore's recent remarks..." I found the info. from Wikipedia and it gives an example of an equal time conflict situation back in 1967. I highlighted that part. I think Gore is still okay in running because he had not declared his candidancy at the time he went on the show. Because of this, the rule should not apply. That's my take on it and I still think Gore will run. :clap: