There is no time more critical for Al Gore's Voice of Reason than right now. Not '08, TODAY. We need Al Gore's voice to stop this administration from bombing Iran. Recently I came up with an idea that I think would stand both parties on their heads. Gore/Hagel '08. Re-elect Al Gore with Chuck Hagel as his Vice President. America is so divided, we need leaders willing to bring us back together. After watching Chuck Hagel on Real Time with Bill Maher, it hit me, we need to bring in good Democrats and good Republicans to get us back on track. If Gore and Hagel would unite, they would get an instant voice. The campaign was started far too early. It has been used as the 'runaway bride of '07. Taking Americans eyes off the current President, making them believe there is a chance to change things. It's all spin, who will do what? Who cares? The election is so far away, it's all just spin right now. I want real conversation, Gore/Hagel would start a conversation! They could talk and out this Administration from now till November '08. Americans are not happy with either party. The media is spinning Hillary Clinton as the candidate for the Democratic ticket. I for one hope not. I don't care that she is a woman, we don't need her for president. She should be doing the job she was elected to do, she's not. She's running for President. Al Gore could do it all, he could united the country. Bring in leaders from all over the world, talk TRUTH TO POWER NOW! AMERICA CAN'T WAIT, WE NEED HIS VOICE YESTERDAY, TODAY AND TOMORROW.

Yesterday is History
Tomorrow is a Mystery
Today is a Gift, that's why we call it Present

Al Gore today would be a gift to the world!!!!!

One lonely voice in Cleveland,
ConnieInCleveland

I agree with you 110% that we need him right now!!! Bring it on, Al!! We're all waiting for you!!!

Hagel or Bloomberg as VP. That would be an awsome ticket! Gore and a moderate Republican as VP will blow the Republican ticket out of the water no matter who they pick.

Gore / Bloomberg Unity08 fusion ticket

With the very distressing news that Al is going to appear on 30rock in NOVEMBER, which is AFTER the cutoff line for the democratic primaries in some states, we now have to hope 3rd party or VP

Besides, I think IF THE VOTE IS NOT STOLEN AND IS FAIR, Al would sweep Hillary and Rudy

I understand that everyone on the show wears Gore '08 T-shirts.

I'd much rather have Al Gore/Ron Paul than Hagel or Bloomberg, if it has to be a repub----hell even if it doesn't have to be a repub, Paul seems the best choice of ALL the hopefuls, even the dems.

Don't you non-Democrats have a place somewhere else?

Hagel, Bloomberg, Paul?

GAG! :wacko:

Dear Algorefan,
I am truly sorry. I don't want to upset anyone. Especially someone who I respect. I understand why it offends you. I personally will refrain from posting any more suggestions like a new ticket. After reading the posts about Al doing a small part on 30Rock, I'm sooooo blue. I would prefer to keep posting, but the new ticket is the only thing I will refrain from posting. We don't have to think alike. I have a mind of my own. I am new to this site, so I will give you the courtesy. I hope you understand, it didn't really hurt you for me to post something contrary to what you want. And to be asked to leave is rude! May show there really is no difference dem/repub.

No one asked you to leave.

But that statement is the bottom line, "there really is no difference dem/repub."

If you believe that then you are believing the wrong thing in my opinion.

There is a VAST DIFFERENCE between DEMS and REPUGS. No need to go further.

Ask Al if there is a difference. You'll get the answer from the horse's mouth if you don't believe me.

Now wait a minute. Once again this is the Al Gore site. So, he happens to be a Democrat. Not all of us are. Most of us here are for Gore. If he doesn't run, that does NOT mean I'll be voting for Hillary. The "inconvenient truth" is that many other Gore supporters probably feel the same. Maybe a lot of them want Gore because they can't stand the other choices of Democrats. If someone is here as a Republican or Independent for Gore I think they have the right to talk about options other than Hillary, assuming Al doesn't run. I know this is not popular, but I'll be d***ed if I'm going to take an oath to any organization and blindly follow-the-leader over the cliff. If Hillary is the Democratic candidate, then I think they'll lose again...and I'll do my part to see it happen. Who needs more of the same? She's shrill and condescending and I'm already tired of her.

I ;) was just being smug with the last line. Don't get me wrong I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND REPUBLICAN PARTY! I would like Edwards or Biden, NOT CLINTON. But I'm afraid Edward and Biden are victims of mainstream media. Their views are virtually ignored. DEMOCRATS NEED A SCREAM IF THEY PLAN TO BEAT THOSE KOOL-AID DRINKING MORON REPUBLICANS!

FAR WORSE, I FEAR THE REPUBLICANS, THEY ARE DESTROYING AMERICA. THESE NEOCONS IN POWER NOW HAVE EVEN TAKEN AWAY THEIR OWN PARTY. THESE WARMONGERS SHOULD SCARE THE HECK OUT OF ALL AMERICANS. UNLESS YOU HAVE A BOMB SHELTER, OR SOMEWHERE TO HIDE AND SURVIVE, YOU BETTER SING IT OUT, SOMEONE BETTER STEP FORWARD AND STOP WAR WITH IRAN NOW!!!!

I DO READ THINGS OTHER THAN MAINSTREAM MEDIA. THAT'S WHY I'M SCREAMING. CHINA HAS WARNED BUSH, THEY SHOT DOWN A SATELITE. RUSSIA HAS WARNED BUSH, THEY FLEW OVER AMERICAN AIRSPACE UNDETECTED. CHINA, RUSSIA AND IRAN DID WAR GAMES TOGETHER. RUSSIA HAS A MISSILE THAT CAN TAKE OUT OUR AIRCRAFT CARRIER AND OUR CARRIERS HAVE NO DEFENSE FOR IT.

IRAQ STARTING SELLING OIL AWAY FROM PETRO-DOLLAR JUST BEFORE WE STARTED BOMBING. IRAN IS TRADING THEIR OIL IN OTHER CURRENCY, NOT PETRO DOLLAR. AM I AFRAID, YES, I'M VERY AFRAID. NOT STUPID, JUST SCARED, LOOKING FOR A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

Yes I'm absolutely for Gore no matter what party he's in--like I said in my long explanatory post in the 'What Would it Take' thread. I haven't considered myself a dem in years, and there's NO WAY I have ever been or could ever be a repub (YUCK). Like a handful of intelligent freethinkers (Bill Maher, Whoopi Goldberg, Chris Rock) have stated publicly lately, they aren't either dem or repub, and I seem to be in that category also. I've been too disappointed in the dems for years now, and it's just gotten worse since the 11/06 elections. I wanted Kerry so bad in 04 I could taste it, then when it was stolen from him, I just naturally assumed he'd DO something about it to get back what was rightfully his. But he did nothing and here we are so much worse off for it 3 years later.
Apparently AlGoreFan is set in stone and expects everyone else to be--but not everything is either black or white, there's too much gray in this life, ESPECIALLY in politics.

And yes, TNBlue, blindly following leaders over cliffs is the worst thing anyone can do---that's only the neocons' forte, the blindly loyal mindless robots. It should be their slogan :dripple:

I would like you to point out what the heck you're talking about. The only thing I am set in stone about is not voting for a repug and that Gore will not run with one.

The above is what the heck I'm talking about.
Because we're saying people OTHER than democrats are worthy of helping to run this country, you instantly label us with a seemingly derogatory name and strongly suggest we're not wanted here.
Some (very very few) repubs are too good for their party and should switch to either dem or 3rd party, and by the same token, some dems are bad and shouldn't even be in politics.
'Labels' don't/shouldn't matter so much as the individual person. Like I asked in the other thread (and no one answered the question): If AG were in the repub party would everyone here still want him as pres? Do you see the point I'm trying to make? :rolleyes:
(YES I KNOW he would NEVER be in the repuke party)

Frankly

IF ... Al Gore does not run, the best hope this country has is Ron Paul

Sorry if the truth shakes you, but that is the truth.

AND

Technically

A Gore/Paul ticket would be the best thing that has happened to America since the original Declaration of Independence

I'm hearing some Republicans saying they just won't vote at all in the next presidential election, they are so disgusted. But they are not going to vote for a Democrat, they just won't vote.

On the flip side, I don't think Hillary is going to get some Dem votes, either. Those people just won't vote.

Upshot- No current candidate has overwhelming appeal and no candidate seems to get the "I'll vote for any Dem/Rep as long as they're a Dem/Rep."


Split ticket/3rd party candidates- Unless the support is so overwhelming for this, whoever runs on that ticket will probably be called a spoiler and have much the same effect as Ralph Nader did. Or it will be "spun" that way. However, by the time the elections roll around, the country could be so fed up with both current parties that it could happen. That's provided the voting is not controlled and there is strong indication that it happened in 2000 and 2004.

Hillary is the chosen one- Bush as much as said so.

Regarding Hagel on the ticket: He has done some good things lately but it cannot be overlooked that he was, maybe still is, invested in a company that makes voting machines.


I'd like to see a Gore/Paul ticket but that's not going to happen. I think the differences are too great but the desire to right the wrongs is there in both.

First let me say that Chuck Hagel is one of my favorite Republicans and I would love a Gore/Hagel ticket.

But it is just never going to happen. Gore is too loyal a Democrat to ever run as a 3rd party candidate. It is just not a realistic proposal.

I think the problem most Dems have with Ron Paul is the he stands against many of the core values of the Democratic party.

As far as a Gore/Paul ticket, Paul is an extreme anti-regulation, free market republican. Does anyone really think Gore would run with someone who would oppose all his proposals for carbon caps and other regulations on industry to fight global warming?

I like Ron Paul's voice, but I don't want to see a Gore/Paul ticket. Gore would not and should not pick the most outlandish republican. Ron Paul does not represent Republicans as much as Independents. If a third part Dem/Repub ticket would be offered, it would have to be a respected Dem/Repub. Not Dem/Independent. That's just my opinion.

EXACTLY!
COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF :good:

And it's so discouraging/disheartening that he's such a long shot, near the bottom of the polls :( (which I'll never understand....he should be at the very top! WAY ahead of the liars and con-artists who'll contribute to the present mess left by the present Resident. He's real and honest and possesses a rare commodity in politics nowadays: COMMON SENSE)
As I've said before, he needs to switch to Independent--ANYTHING but repub!

If AL GORE doesn't run, which is something I don't even want to think about, we might as well give up. This screwed up world is in big, big trouble if AL GORE doesn't run. He is the only one who can fix what Bush has made a mess of.

Give up supporting Al Gore?

What's the name of this site?

THE AL GORE SUPPORT CENTER

WOW...... You sure missed my point big time. What I meant was ever seeing this country or the world a great place again. I will NEVER give up on AL GORE. The world might as well give up if he doesn't run.

Next time, please read posts more carefully before responding.

Sir, yes sir! :wacko:

Somebody, please put my mind at ease, perhaps an impossible task. We heard all day people "close" to Gore saying that he will not run. We heard others "close" to Gore saying that he would like to but, for various reasons they set forth, will not. We also heard from people like us who do not know him personally who hope and pray with every fiber in their body that he will run. Do anyone here read statements from those "close" to Gore saying he will run or is leaning toward entering the race? Something to counteract the consensus among his associates that he will not run? PLEASE???

Michael Bloomberg is NOT a republican.

He is as liberal as they get.

And I would never vote for Ron Paul. He wants to ban abortion. He is crazy too.
He did not sign Kucinich's impeach Cheney bill, and Paul has been in office and done nothing for years.
David Duke backs Ron Paul. Enuf said.

Gore/Bloomberg

if Gore don't run and Bloomberg runs, I will vote for him. I will never vote for Hillary(unless Gore is her VP).
Terry McAuliffe can choke on it ...he is a traitor to Al Gore fans everywhere.

Terry McAuliffe goes with the flow. A political spinner for the left. Unless Gore decides to run, Terry McAuliffe is covering his bases where he can stay relevent with a job.

It would have my vote, hands down.

I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but I'm sick and tired of these N.Y. Mayors and ex-mayors thinking they can jump from mayor to president...........enough is enough.

NO............to Bloomberg :bad:
NO............to Giuliani :bad:

Have to admit, I agree. Bloomberg doesn't excite me at all.

During the GOP convention in 2004 Bloomberg ordered his police force to illegally detain anti-war and anti-Bush protestors for days so they wouldn't upset his GOP masters.

He may be an independent now but this is a man who will do anything to gain power.

I'm sure Al Gore is aware of what he has done in the past. I would not want to see him choose Bloomberg. Bloomberg has enough money to buy votes, I just wish people couldn't be bought! Money and the quest for more, more, more is why we are in the situation we are today. Values have gone out the window. No one wants to loose what they have. They just don't realize that when these guys are done they could end up with nothing anyway. The real people in power are protecting themselves and leading the masses to think they are protecting them and in fact they are not. People are being misled, being led off the cliff and they don't even realize it.

I just finished reading what Al Gore said in a speech to Moveon.org, November 9, 2003 regarding Freedom & Security. I think it is well worth reading again. It was published at commondreams.org on November 10, 2003. I read it then and thought, "this is why I cried when the Supreme Court gave George W. Bush my vote".

www.archive/2007/10/12/4488/

This is what Americans need to hear today. Al Gore has spoken to the world about Global Warming and the world is listening. I wish he would talk to Americans about what is going on today to our freedom and the Constitution. We need Al Gore today more than we did in 2000. America is on a collision course and many Americans don't believe it can happen. IT CAN! THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN WRONG BEFORE. IT CAN HAPPEN!

Chuck Hagel got elected the first time surprisingly winning

Did his ownership of the exact corrupt voting machine company lead to his unexpected victory?

NO to Hagel.

At least Bloomberg is a liberal on all social issues.

And the Secret Service ordered the NY Police to do what they did. That was Bush.
Wasn't like there was any choice possible.

And Bloomberg has balanced the budget, something Bush never could do

Yet people here want to vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton Bush? Why?
She is a Barry Goldwater republican through and through.
And Bill Clinton is plain trash. :spikey:

I don't want Hillary that's for sure. Not sure about Bloomberg? I haven't followed him. I live in Cleveland and he is rarely mentioned here, except how much he spent per vote to win. I trust Al Gore to choose someone that will be good for America.

What has Bloomberg said about the war with Iran and Iraq? The war issues are more important to me than anything else being said right now. Except for what is being done to the Constitution and Civil Liberties.

So is Guiliani. So what?

The Secret Service has no authority to order the NYPD to do anything unless Bloomberg approved it.

So what? Koch balanced the budget. Guiliani balanced the budget. So did Bill Clinton. And at least they did so without secret early morning meetings to raise property taxes on middle class homeowners like Bloomberg did.

Don't believe the personal smacker that "people here want to vote for Hillary." That is his own extrapolation. People here want to vote for Gore.

dunno...I voted yes in your poll but only while holding my nose. Have you looked at Hagels voting history? There's some dubious actions in there. Why do we need a conservative to fix what the neo-conservatives have done? Why are people so hesitant to say the name Kucinich?

I have looked at Chuck Hagel's bio, he doesn't look evil. I am a Democrat, but I am not happy with any of the current candidates. I think when the Republican spin machine revs up they will be toast.

We need a winable team. A ticket that speaks to many Americans. The Republicans (neocons) are the ones that have gotten us into this mess, with the help of the go-along, to get-along Democrats. We need a team that speaks to Americans, not parties.

Americans can't get out of this mess with only half of America joining. I want a ticket that will work to Unite us and bring us back to respectability. Chuck Hagel on Real Time with Bill Maher was great. I went to Chuck Hagel's web site and he doesn't look evil. His voting record didn't look bad. Al Gore would be President. Maybe, just maybe, we could avoid war with Iran and stop waging war for the war profiteers. Lives should not be lost for the benefit of a few rich Americans.

As for Kucinich, I like what he has to say, but he can not unite America. The media makes him out to be a joke. I agree with what he is saying, but face it, he's not going to win the vote of the country. He can't even win one party vote, let alone two parties. Kucinich's voice is needed, he just can't win.

Thanks for the info James. I knew there was something else about Bloomberg that I did not like. That clinches it, I wouldn't vote for any candidate that used the police force to control free speech. I'm sure Al Gore wouldn't choose that type of candidate either.

!!!???As for Kucinich, I like what he has to say, but he can not unite America. The media makes him out to be a joke???!!!

The American public is way too easily (malleably) influenced by the (manipulative) media. The media doesn't make Kucinich out to be a joke so much as those who cannot think for themselves (NOT implying YOU) do by being spoon fed. Re: "The Dean Scream". They scrubbed the background noise from the clip re-fed it and the public swallowed it- WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. I was overseas then too. People over here just shook their heads at us and wondered what the h-ll is wrong with us that we can be so shallow.
Meanwhile America can be united just fine by a DEMOCRATIC administration. Running a conservative sends the message that the Democratic party needs help from the Daddy-Republicans.
If Kucinich is saying what we want/need to hear THAT needs to be what we vote for NOT media-manufactured sudo leaders. That's exactly part of the BIG problem with America/cans...we want it all to be too easy, too slick. So what if Kucinich doesn't have perfect hair. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE SHOULD VOTE FOR HIM. This is what I was trying to say in my post about Americans Living Over Seas... the world looks at us behaving this way...voting for "hair" instead if "issues" and they're shaking their collectives heads wondering when the bloody h-ll we're gonna wake up! The mantra all over the world now is "we (Americans) just keep getting the politicians we deserve."
J-
ANOTHER THOUGHT...you want there really should actually be a ONE party system?
Doesn't this just homogenize the system even more, conceding that Democrats and republicans are just interchangeable and that there is no distinction between them? And wouldn't it be a nice world if Ron Paul could at least run as an independent, or better as what he is, a Libertarian... but "no!" (because neither party are acknowledged). Instead he is forced to change his affiliation to a recognized party.