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IanOC - September 26, 2007 10:45 PM (GMT)
I thought it might be helpful to start a thread of recent comments by Gore that suggest he may decide to jump in the presidential race.

First, there are his remarks from August that he may "re-enter politics" and that none of the candidates have made the climate crisis a priority in their campaigns.

Second, there was his comment at the Emmy's that we need to "reclaim American democracy."

Third, he told Business Week he would soon be making an "announcement."

Fourth, Gore gave an impassioned speech on Monday to the U.N. calling for immediate action and made this remark today at the Clinton Global Initiative Conference: "This climate crisis is not going to be solved only by personal actions and business actions...We need changes in laws, changes in policies, we need leadership and we need a new treaty." If Gore wins the Nobel, this tells America precisely who that leader should be.

I don't think Gore is being coy anymore. He will endorse someone or make a run for president himself soon.




TNblue - September 27, 2007 01:47 AM (GMT)
IanOC, I think that's a fabulous idea! :good:

A thread only for positive news and clues. May there be many, many posts :D

IanOC - September 27, 2007 02:54 AM (GMT)
Just read on the 90 day Countdown thread that Gore said on CNN with Wolf Blitzer that he may not endorse anyone. Another shift in his remarks.

jharri1992 - September 27, 2007 03:09 AM (GMT)
Ian, did Wolf Blitzer ask gore if Gore inended to run or only about whether he would endorse a candidate? If so, how did Gore answer?

earthmother - September 27, 2007 04:01 AM (GMT)
I didn't see it, so I can't answer your question, jharri.

But to add to IanOC's list . . .“I actually feel that I have failed to reach my principal objective of moving the U.S. and the world past a tipping point on the climate crisis.”

http://www.02138mag.com/magazine/article/1485.html


I believe this is a way of setting things up so he can get in the race by saying he's failed to achieve his objective as a private citizen, so now he has to try to do it as POTUS.

valadon245 - September 27, 2007 04:23 AM (GMT)
it sure would be nice to have some inspiration especially considering the Senate votes today.......thnx

IanOC - September 30, 2007 02:31 AM (GMT)
In Victoria today, Gore said: "The planet has a fever...we have a planetary emergency and we have to act."

He is talking alot about the importance now of immediate political action. This provides the rationale for a presidential run, it seems to me. The presidency is Gore's if he is willing.

Goracle_Fan - September 30, 2007 05:41 PM (GMT)
Great thread Ian, we really need this!

The SFGate interview on Sept. 18th with Al and Joel Hyatt is VERY interesting :good: and Al seems almost giddy teasering about upcoming announcements for current.com, Nobels, and in response to the interviewer's question about a possible announcement if he wins the Nobel ...

Here is the audio:
http://cdn.sfgate.com/blogs/sounds/sfgate/...re-20070917.mp3

dbciii - September 30, 2007 07:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (earthmother @ Sep 26 2007, 10:01 PM)
I didn't see it, so I can't answer your question, jharri.

But to add to IanOC's list . . .“I actually feel that I have failed to reach my principal objective of moving the U.S. and the world past a tipping point on the climate crisis.”

http://www.02138mag.com/magazine/article/1485.html


I believe this is a way of setting things up so he can get in the race by saying he's failed to achieve his objective as a private citizen, so now he has to try to do it as POTUS.

I have tried to avoid parsing every sentence and 'reading the tea leaves' - but this remark really got my attention. With all the care he has taken in the past year-plus to avoid saying anything specific, this really seems like a sea change.

stand by!

Wayne in WA State - October 1, 2007 07:34 AM (GMT)
Hi dbciii :D

I can't seem to find right now a source for the quote I recall -- maybe someone can help us out; However I do remember reading Al Gore being quoted as saying that by November 2007 the Climate Crisis WILL BE a top tier issue among Democratic Presidential Candidates.

I don't think he makes these remarks casually either.

stand by!


whybaby - October 1, 2007 01:51 PM (GMT)
I can't source the exact quote either, Wayne, but I do remember hearing it slightly differently, that AG had said (in early Sept.???) that in 500 days, the climate crisis would be the number 1 priority for America, something like that. Do the numbers, and you can see that that brings us to the end of January 2009.

Gee, I wonder what might be happening in America in late January of 2009? :laugh:

Also, does anyone remember what he said at the Emmies when, at the end of accepting (with his partner Joel Hyatt) - that we should go to Current.com, and stay tuned (for an announcement soon??????)

Am I making up my own convenient memory, or can someone substantiate either of these items?

Thank you, IanOC, for a place for us to dream big and keep going! :good:

Goracle_Fan - October 1, 2007 05:05 PM (GMT)
Hi whybaby,
No, you're not making that up, take a listen to the audio link I posted above.
Al and Joel Hyatt did that interview with the San Francisco Chronicle the day after the Emmy.
They discuss the current.com "announcement" along with some other tantalizing teasers that peaked my interest. :rolleyes:

marla - October 1, 2007 07:57 PM (GMT)
I want it to be that he announces to but it also could be because they are doing a new website for Current. I was curious to see if I could find anything out so I went into the blogs over at currenttv.com and read this one girl who is working there said she is working on what Al talked about during the emmys but she can't say what it is. She is pretty new and hasn't done any high level job there so I am thinking she is working on the new website.

I don't think its like Al though to use everyone thinking he is running just to promote his website. I am kind of confused but hoping against hope he will do new website and announce his candidacy on the site showing there is a new form of media. That would be great!! :clap:

Goracle_Fan - October 1, 2007 09:09 PM (GMT)
That's what I was thinkin' ! :good:

It's clear from the interview that the Current.com announcement has something to do with the upcoming election, maybe some type of an interactive way for "the People" to become more informed citizens AND to somehow interact with candidates in a way to hold them responsible, unlike debates where they can say whatever they want (like "who knows when we'll get out of Iraq?" :mad:).

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he announced on current; I'm sure everything about his "campaign" will be done differently than what we are used to and yet exactly what our founders had in mind. And we can be absolutely, refreshingly, (& and almost shockingly these days) certain that it will finally involve the will of the people.

God, just please give me patience, the suspense is killing me!!! :wacko: :dripple:

TNblue - October 2, 2007 01:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Goracle_Fan @ Oct 1 2007, 03:09 PM)


It wouldn't surprise me at all if he announced on current; I'm sure everything about his "campaign" will be done differently than what we are used to and yet exactly what our founders had in mind. And we can be absolutely, refreshingly, (& and almost shockingly these days) certain that it will finally involve the will of the people.

God, just please give me patience, the suspense is killing me!!! :wacko:  :dripple:


Yeah, well I hope he announces on Current on the steps of the Carthage courthouse, as Blueraider thinks he would do.

And I hope I get a hot tip and can get there in time. I think 3 hours is all I'd need, maybe 4. :good:

IanOC - October 2, 2007 01:22 AM (GMT)
More fodder for speculation: another pro-Gore Vanity Fair piece, this time about his relationship with the Clintons. It's hard to believe that Gore would let Hillary become president after he lost votes in the 2000 election because his unfortunate association with them. Here's what the NY Times says:

There are more catty details than newsy disclosures in the new Vanity Fair piece about the rivalry between the Clintons and the Gores: Hillary apparently came to treat Tipper shabbily, Al apparently was driven around the bend by Billary during the 2000 race, the Clintons were (not apparently — definitely!) obsessed with money, et cetra.

But perhaps the biggest takeaway from it all is a meta-story — that Vanity Fair’s editor, Graydon Carter, apparently seemed to think that Al Gore was going to jump into the ’08 race sometime soon.

Mr. Gore could still enter the race, of course. But this is the second major Vanity Fair piece this fall that attempts to dig deep into Goreworld.; the first piece assessed the media’s coverage of Mr. Gore during the 2000 campaign, reminding readers of the Vice President’s press problems way back when and ruminating on how he would fare with the Fourth Estate if he were to run again.

Mr. Carter’s staff lined up both pieces at least several months ago. Maybe it was the idea of Gore ’08, maybe it was the forthcoming announcement of the Nobel Peace Prize (Mr. Gore is reportedly in the running); maybe it was to advance Mr. Gore’s environmental message or to further burnish the image of the new Gore. Only Mr. Carter knows.

The latest V.F. piece, “White House Civil War,” is an excerpt from Sally Bedell Smith’s new book, “For Love of Politics — Bill and Hillary Clinton: The White House Years.” It plumbs a theme that has received extensive coverage over the years: The political ménage a trios of Bill-Hill-Al during their two terms in office and during Mr. Gore’s and Mrs. Clinton’s races in 2000.

Among the memorable moments in the piece:

Betsey Wright, Mr. Clinton’s chief of staff in Arkansas, says that during Mr. Clinton’s first year as president, “There are a great many people talking very seriously about her succeeding him” — meaning Hillary succeeding Bill as president, rather than Al following with a term of his own.

A friend of the Clintons’ noted in a journal that Mrs. Clinton “once said with some bitterness, ‘Gore gets credit because he’s a Washington insider and can play the game. Gore is not ‘from someplace called Arkansas.’”

Mrs. Clinton’s Senate race, the author contends, was largely for the benefit of the couple and their marriage rather than in the interests of, say, the people of New York. From the story:

Madeleine Albright told a friend she was “impressed that Clinton was eager for Hillary to win the Senate race to recompense her for all she had to put up with and also a way for him to get back into campaigning.” Bill’s friend Tom Siebert, who was to raise money for Hillary, recognized that “the Senate race kept them in public life.… They grabbed the brass ring early in their lives, and running for elective office was in her DNA as much as his.”

White House resources and events were diverted to benefit Mrs. Clinton, not Mr. Gore, during the 2000 race.

Hillary was B.F.F.’s with Tipper in 1992 and in the early years — Mrs. Gore would have Mrs. Clinton over to sympathize over press coverage, Mrs. Gore gave up a fashion designer of hers that Mrs. Clinton came to favor — but then froze her out as the competition with Mr. Gore for attention and donations increased.

Before Hillary officially established her exploratory committee, she began directly competing with the vice president for money, sometimes even at his own fund-raising events. When Tipper’s friend Melinda Blinken and a group of women planned a Gore fund-raiser in Los Angeles, Hillary insisted on being invited—over the objections of the event’s organizers. Hillary then shocked the vice president’s supporters by soliciting donations for herself in front of Tipper.

At a White House reception in late July for the winners of the Women’s World Cup soccer championship, Hillary singled out “my dear friend Tipper Gore” as “a great athlete in her time.” But by then Hillary had privately frozen out Tipper, who had given her steadfast support during the Lewinsky ordeal. Hillary never made clear her reasons for the snub, which became apparent once she started running for the Senate. Tipper was reported to be stunned, believing she had been cast aside because she was no longer useful.

And some Clinton administration staff members referred to Mrs. Clinton as “the Supreme Court” because she was believed to have final say on “big decisions” and policy.

marla - October 2, 2007 01:34 AM (GMT)
what do you guys think Vanity Fair is doing? Does the writer know something we all don't? Or is he trying to pave the way for Gore to run? He's bringing up issues that we all know are big ones and explaining them to everyone, the media, and clintons/gore.

I am going to email the writer and thank him for the articles, know I won't get answer back but want them to know its appreciated.

IanOC - October 2, 2007 03:17 AM (GMT)
I just listened to the Gore speech at the U.N. again. It is remarkable. What is striking, beyond what he actually says, is the way that he says it. The urgency in his voice is, in and of itself, hints at the possibility of a presidential run. Gore is not just trying to raise public awareness, the point of An Inconvenient Truth. He now is trying to persuade the governments of the world to act -- and the best position for him to do so is as the president of the United States. He also is linking the environment to global poverty and to international cooperation -- this gives him a distinctive vision that Edwards, who has made poverty a signature issue and Obama, who opposed the Iraq War, can not match.

In my opinion, the editor of Vanity Fair either knows something or else is making one last attempt to encourage Gore to run -- by printing sympathetic articles. Either way we should find out soon. Gotta send my check to the folks preparing a rally in Des Moines...



AlGoreFan - October 2, 2007 03:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (IanOC @ Oct 1 2007, 09:17 PM)
I just listened to the Gore speech at the U.N. again.

Link?

AlGoreFan - October 2, 2007 03:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 1 2007, 09:23 PM)
QUOTE (IanOC @ Oct 1 2007, 09:17 PM)
I just listened to the Gore speech at the U.N. again.

Link?

TNblue - October 2, 2007 03:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (IanOC @ Oct 1 2007, 09:17 PM)
I just listened to the Gore speech at the U.N. again.  It is remarkable.  What is striking, beyond what he actually says, is the way that he says it.  The urgency in his voice is, in and of itself, hints at the possibility of a presidential run.  Gore is not just trying to raise public awareness, the point of An Inconvenient Truth.  He now is trying to persuade the governments of the world to act -- and the best position for him to do so is as the president of the United States.  He also is linking the environment to global poverty and to international cooperation -- this gives him a distinctive vision that Edwards, who has made poverty a signature issue and Obama, who opposed the Iraq War, can not match.

In my opinion, the editor of Vanity Fair either knows something or else is making one last attempt to encourage Gore to run -- by printing sympathetic articles.  Either way we should find out soon.  Gotta send my check to the folks preparing a rally in Des Moines...



Ok, I just listened to the whole thing. I'm not trying to burst any bubbles, but that speech, good as it was, was just a synopsis of his global warming presentation. I wouldn't and didn't read anything new into it.

AlGoreFan - October 2, 2007 04:40 AM (GMT)
me either

Goracle_Fan - October 2, 2007 05:49 AM (GMT)
I'm leaning with Ian on this one... it's very subtle, under the radar, but something is different.
Of course, my wishful thinking skills are a bit overpowering right now, so who knows... :rolleyes:

IanOC - October 3, 2007 03:50 PM (GMT)
This from the Denver Post about Gore's presentation in Colorado:

"Gore stayed away from speaking about politics for the most part, stopping only to fault today's politicians for not doing enough to stave off environmental disaster."

That is his rationale for entering the race: the need for radical change in U.S. environmental policy is too important to leave it to anyone else. The Republicans will not make it a priority because it inferferes with business interests. Clinton will not make it a priority because she is so obsessed with power that she will be more interested in getting elected and staying elected than in doing what is right. Obama and Edwards could be persuaded to make it a priority, but only if they go to school with Gore.

If Gore does not see this rationale, I would be amazed.

earthmother - October 3, 2007 04:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (IanOC @ Oct 3 2007, 03:50 PM)
"Gore stayed away from speaking about politics for the most part, stopping only to fault today's politicians for not doing enough to stave off environmental disaster."

I'm telling you, he's paving the way for entering the race.

Wayne in WA State - October 3, 2007 06:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (earthmother @ Oct 3 2007, 10:09 AM)

I'm telling you, he's paving the way for entering the race.

Yes :good:

Goracle_Fan - October 3, 2007 07:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
I'm telling you, he's paving the way for entering the race.

I just know it, I tell you!!! :clap: :laugh: :dance:

How often does Al Gore act out of character? Why would he all of a sudden act out of character at the crossroads of making the difference he has been working towards for the better part of his life? Not possible, not logical; absolutely no way, no how. He's running, there's no question... :good:

TNblue - October 3, 2007 07:08 PM (GMT)
I want this as badly as any of you. That's why I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I just do NOT hear anything different in tone or language from last winter. I have heard all this before.



ALGOREismylife - October 3, 2007 08:05 PM (GMT)
He has to run, we need him, we all need him, the whole world needs him. AL GORE just has to run and finally get what was stolen from him and what was stolen from us, PRESIDENT AL GORE.

I don't even want to think about him not running. That would be a disaster. :(

tkdveg - October 3, 2007 08:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (TNblue @ Oct 3 2007, 01:08 PM)
I want this as badly as any of you. That's why I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I just do NOT hear anything different in tone or language from last winter. I have heard all this before.

Maybe nothing much different since winter, but keep in mind that he was clear, very early on, that he would not run in 2004. This time he has NOT done that; he has NOT said no! That alone should keep us in this!

He knows how much energy we have focused on this right now, and he would have long ago asked us to turn our attention elsewhere (ie global issues) if he was sure he wasn't going to run. (Of course, to me, this is a global issue!)

Hang on!!! We're too close now!!

IanOC - October 3, 2007 08:43 PM (GMT)
Another important piece of information is Hillary Clinton's widening lead over Obama and Edwards. This week, we have learned that (1) She beat Obama in fundraising by 7 million dollars and (2) Leads now by 33 percent (53 to 20 percent) in a Washington post poll.

Al Gore can not stand by and let Clinton or Giuliani take the presidency. That's another four years of inaction or worse. We will still be in Iraq. We will not have leadership on environmental issues. We will not have statesmanship. We will not reclaim American democracy. We will not have national unity or purpose. Gore's "opening" is almost here. The question is whether he will see it and take it. I think it is at least still a strong possibility.

Ian O'Corrain
www.gore-obama2008.blogspot.com


Patsy - October 4, 2007 12:01 AM (GMT)
I am now getting worried with Hillary running away in the polls. I feel that he must announce now or it is going to be too late. I can't support Hillary, and that is the bottom line. I just wish that I knew what to say or do to get him in the race. Surely, he is hearing us.

TNblue - October 4, 2007 12:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (tkdveg @ Oct 3 2007, 02:17 PM)
QUOTE (TNblue @ Oct 3 2007, 01:08 PM)
I want this as badly as any of you. That's why I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I just do NOT hear anything different in tone or language from last winter. I have heard all this before.

Maybe nothing much different since winter, but keep in mind that he was clear, very early on, that he would not run in 2004. This time he has NOT done that; he has NOT said no! That alone should keep us in this!

He knows how much energy we have focused on this right now, and he would have long ago asked us to turn our attention elsewhere (ie global issues) if he was sure he wasn't going to run. (Of course, to me, this is a global issue!)

Hang on!!! We're too close now!!


I know. I'm hanging on until we know for sure. When I talk to my brother about Gore he berates me, and it all boils down to "What part of NO don't you understand?" It sucks the wind out of my already floppy sails. :(

AlGoreFan - October 4, 2007 12:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (TNblue @ Oct 3 2007, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (tkdveg @ Oct 3 2007, 02:17 PM)
QUOTE (TNblue @ Oct 3 2007, 01:08 PM)
I want this as badly as any of you. That's why I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I just do NOT hear anything different in tone or language from last winter. I have heard all this before.

Maybe nothing much different since winter, but keep in mind that he was clear, very early on, that he would not run in 2004. This time he has NOT done that; he has NOT said no! That alone should keep us in this!

He knows how much energy we have focused on this right now, and he would have long ago asked us to turn our attention elsewhere (ie global issues) if he was sure he wasn't going to run. (Of course, to me, this is a global issue!)

Hang on!!! We're too close now!!


I know. I'm hanging on until we know for sure. When I talk to my brother about Gore he berates me, and it all boils down to "What part of NO don't you understand?" It sucks the wind out of my already floppy sails. :(

What part of HE HASN'T SAID NO don't people understand?

TNblue - October 4, 2007 01:17 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Oct 3 2007, 06:45 PM)
QUOTE (TNblue @ Oct 3 2007, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (tkdveg @ Oct 3 2007, 02:17 PM)
QUOTE (TNblue @ Oct 3 2007, 01:08 PM)
I want this as badly as any of you. That's why I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but I just do NOT hear anything different in tone or language from last winter. I have heard all this before.

Maybe nothing much different since winter, but keep in mind that he was clear, very early on, that he would not run in 2004. This time he has NOT done that; he has NOT said no! That alone should keep us in this!

He knows how much energy we have focused on this right now, and he would have long ago asked us to turn our attention elsewhere (ie global issues) if he was sure he wasn't going to run. (Of course, to me, this is a global issue!)

Hang on!!! We're too close now!!


I know. I'm hanging on until we know for sure. When I talk to my brother about Gore he berates me, and it all boils down to "What part of NO don't you understand?" It sucks the wind out of my already floppy sails. :(

What part of HE HASN'T SAID NO don't people understand?


YEAH!!! :clap:

Wayne in WA State - October 4, 2007 07:24 AM (GMT)
For your safety and entertainment patrons are not permitted to exit the ride until it is completed ;)

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If you have the stomach for it, more rides will follow :spikey:

IanOC - October 4, 2007 01:20 PM (GMT)
I read on a Gore-friendly site that a woman had received a reply from Gore's office saying that Gore may "still run" or something to that effect. It' ain't over!

earthmother - October 4, 2007 03:06 PM (GMT)
If that's true, Ian, I wish we could get confirmation of it. To my knowledge, no one has received letters that say anything other than the usual "no plans to run" line. If they really did send a reply that said that, this is HUGE.

NYPopulist - October 4, 2007 04:17 PM (GMT)
Ian --- Please send us a link to the site you read that on!!!!!!!

ReElectAlGore2008 - October 4, 2007 05:15 PM (GMT)
That sounds like something that was on this site last week or two ago

Wonder if Hillary is somehow manipulating the polls (like the Bushie she is), knowing Al is getting itchy to come in, and hoping to make it seem inevitable

The latest poll is NOT good news...because her lead is so big, that it might not be a sure thing she could be beaten

I tell you, wish Al would run 3rd party, done right, he could win
IF the vote is free and accurate




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