Title: Is Gore using political supporters?
AlGoreFan - September 23, 2007 10:01 PM (GMT)
Seriously, is our beloved Al Gore not giving the SHERMAN STATEMENT because all the political supporters assist in the climate change movement?
Maybe if he gave the STATEMENT then all the political supporter's attention would be diverted to other candidates and lessen the spotlight on him, thus lessening the glow on climate change?
Just a thought. What do you think?
ReElectAlGore2008 - September 24, 2007 01:22 AM (GMT)
glad you said it and not me...
(I can imagine if I said it a number of people here would be throwing bricks at me)
:D
If he doesn't run, I will feel like I was being used
(and you indirectly proove my other point these days here, but see separate thread for that) :D
valadon245 - September 24, 2007 05:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Sep 23 2007, 07:22 PM) |
glad you said it and not me... (I can imagine if I said it a number of people here would be throwing bricks at me) :D
If he doesn't run, I will feel like I was being used
(and you indirectly proove my other point these days here, but see separate thread for that) :D |
Why would any decision Al makes on whether to run or not reflect on you or anyone else personally? Not only is the above statement by AlGore fan cynical, but I find comments that indicate that Al would let someone down by his decision a bit self-serving.
AlGoreFan - September 24, 2007 06:30 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (valadon245 @ Sep 23 2007, 11:53 PM) |
| Why would any decision Al makes on whether to run or not reflect on you or anyone else personally? Not only is the above statement by AlGore fan cynical, but I find comments that indicate that Al would let someone down by his decision a bit self-serving. |
"Self-serving?" What do you mean by that?
Cynical, yes, but it was just a thought.
Listen up. I want Gore as my Prez and will work for it as much or maybe more than you will.
Wayne in WA State - September 24, 2007 07:26 AM (GMT)
The cynical part of me has also had that thought..
On one hand doing whatever it takes to slow down global warming and save the earth is both ethical and necessary; I wouldn't feel so bad being "used" for that purpose. :huh:
But, nah, I don't think that's what's going on. He's going to announce.
Here is my prediction: October 2007 Al Gore announces his candidacy :good:
oleblueraider - September 24, 2007 10:23 AM (GMT)
It never ceases to amaze me how much people think he owes them something???
Any statement reported publicly in the press by Bon Jovi for example, has never alluded to the fact that Bon Jovi thought he would run or that he thought he owed it to us or him to do so!
Bon Jovi has put big money where his mouth and heart is and he doesn't hold Gore to any sort of he is teasing me syndrome?
Can't the man just be an independent individual with no real plotting to "USE" his supporters? If you harbor that sentiment at all, then why bother supporting him?
AlGoreFan - September 24, 2007 01:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (oleblueraider @ Sep 24 2007, 04:23 AM) |
It never ceases to amaze me how much people think he owes them something???
Any statement reported publicly in the press by Bon Jovi for example, has never alluded to the fact that Bon Jovi thought he would run or that he thought he owed it to us or him to do so!
Bon Jovi has put big money where his mouth and heart is and he doesn't hold Gore to any sort of he is teasing me syndrome?
Can't the man just be an independent individual with no real plotting to "USE" his supporters? If you harbor that sentiment at all, then why bother supporting him? |
Bon Jovi compared to Al Gore??????????? :wacko:
tkdveg - September 24, 2007 01:50 PM (GMT)
Patience, Grasshoppers! Don't let your frustration with the lack of an answer from Gore cloud your emotions.
We all want him to be our next President, that's not in question. His motivations should not be questioned either. We support him because he is an honorable man.
I, for one, don't feel 'used'. I still feel legitimized by the fact that he hasn't given the dreaded statement. He has not discouraged us, and this I take as a good sign. I truly believe that he would have told us to 'stop with the politics, and to focus our energy elsewhere". Should he choose not to run, it will no doubt be at least as painful for him as it is for us.
I support Gore on the political front, as well as the environmental. One is not dependant on the other though. I want him as my President, but if that is not to happen, my support of his environmental projects will not waiver as a result. Sure, I'll be disappointed, but I will remain committed to the goal of a healthy planet. Our environmental support should not be contingent upon his political stance at a given moment.
Texan for Gore - September 24, 2007 02:02 PM (GMT)
I don't think asking this question implies that anyone feels that Al "owes" us something. I certainly don't feel that way. He has done way more than his share of serving our country, and if he decided to run, it would be his decision (and a blessing to us). I realize that it would mean subjecting himself to all the right wing smear and a part of me says, how can we ask him to do such a thing? I guess it's the fact that our country is in such a mess that I'm hoping and praying that he might decide to run.
Regarding the question on this thread, I think it's the fact that Al won't make the Sherman statement that makes some of us wonder. Maybe he's not making it because he is really thinking long and hard about it. That's understandable and who could fault him for that? Or maybe it's the timing. He wants to announce at the right time. That's okay too. But sometimes, that cynical part comes out in us and we can't help but consider other possibilities. Maybe holding off on that Sherman statement keeps the global warming issue front and center. And I wouldn't even think anything's wrong with that, because it definitely needs to be front and center.
I am a diehard Al Gore fan/supporter, but hey, we're all human, and yes, sometimes we consider those questions. Some of us are probably just getting a little anxious and tired, but I'm willing to deal with that. Al has definitely suffered a whole lot more from the 2000 campaign and election. I'm here for the long haul, no matter what Al decides. :D
valadon245 - September 24, 2007 03:06 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (AlGoreFan @ Sep 24 2007, 12:30 AM) |
| QUOTE (valadon245 @ Sep 23 2007, 11:53 PM) | | Why would any decision Al makes on whether to run or not reflect on you or anyone else personally? Not only is the above statement by AlGore fan cynical, but I find comments that indicate that Al would let someone down by his decision a bit self-serving. |
"Self-serving?" What do you mean by that?
Cynical, yes, but it was just a thought.
Listen up. I want Gore as my Prez and will work for it as much or maybe more than you will.
|
self-serving was not for your statement ..cynical was otherwise I would have replied to your post and not the one that I did reply to.....I should have clarified. It just irks me to no end to hear that people support Al, but if he doesn't run he's let THEM down or they feel used. It certainly doesn't allow him the benefit of making a legitimate decision. I want him to run too, but because he feels it's the best thing for him to do not because I personally feel he owes me anything.
marla - September 25, 2007 05:40 PM (GMT)
First message here but have seen some here on other Gore site. The last few days I have struggled with thoughts like this question and I think its because I look at the other candidates and except for Dennis who I don't think can win none of them hold my views.
I want a strong person to lead us in real change in this country, that is the hope in my heart and when I think that Al might not run I feel afraid. Afraid that things will stay the same even if a dem wins. Sure it will be better, anything is better than Bush.
But I long for more than just better. I have longed all my life since I was a little girl and watched John and Bobby Kennedy on my black and white tv, for real leadership to guide us through the tough changes its going to take to help the environment.
I mean, I am riding my scooter at 51 to town for work and errands instead of my car. I started using canvas bags, we recycle, got bubble cover for the pool, have energy appliances and windows but I know its going to take a whole lot more people doing this to make it make a difference.
While I am at the store I watch hundreds of plastic bags in just a few minutes being given out and I think more has to be done.
Can Obama, Edwards, Hillary, Richardson, Biden, Dodd, change that? Do they have the passion to make us listen? I don't think so, that is why when I get afraid I start to get thoughts like this question too. Not out of disrespect because I think Gore is the best running or not. But because I am afraid for my country.
Wayne in WA State - September 25, 2007 06:30 PM (GMT)
Glad to have you here marla :clap: That other board has more guests but not a lot of activity.
My feelings exactly; A Gore entry in October would be a lot like Bobby Kennedy's late entry into the 1968 Democratic nomination contest. But with a different outcome of course. :spikey:
P.S. I hope some of the members here will help get a little something going on Randi Rhodes message board. Please add to "A Shameless Promotion" ;)
marla - September 25, 2007 06:52 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the welcome. I haven't listened to Randi lately. Is she still as hyped up as she was? Probably more knowing her. When Air America left Sirius I lost a lot of people I listened to. Sometimes I listen online like when I want to hear the whole Thom Hartman show and not just the first hour.
TNblue - September 25, 2007 09:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Wayne in WA State @ Sep 25 2007, 12:30 PM) |
Glad to have you here marla :clap: That other board has more guests but not a lot of activity.
|
About that "other board". I agree with you Wayne, however, for the first time ever I just received an email today that indicates things are going into high gear there in the very near future. We may all need to be checking it out at least daily in order to pull the effort together for the Hail Mary pass. I'll bow to it as the leading site if they will just GET IT ON and stir things up.
imprisonslimebush - September 25, 2007 11:24 PM (GMT)
what's the link to the other board???
(thx in advance)
marla - September 26, 2007 12:11 AM (GMT)
They are either talking about www.algore.org or www.americaforgore.org
This board just feels more user friendly but I check almost all the Gore blogs I have saved daily. Its down to the wire now time wise. :read:
TNblue - September 26, 2007 04:31 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (imprisonslimebush @ Sep 25 2007, 05:24 PM) |
what's the link to the other board???
(thx in advance) |
Here's the email. It's not the site I was thinking. I'm getting confused with all the different efforts. This one I believe is where the petition is.
Too many Chiefs, not enough Indians. Someone get the lasso and bull horn and pull it all together. Might as well log on see what's up.
From: DraftGore@aol.com
Subject: New website: Start a Draft Gore chapter today!
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:44:30 EDT
To:
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Dear Friends,
With apologies for getting back to you so late, we would like to take you up on your offers to get involved in your state or communities either by forming or joining a local chapter for Draft Gore. Some of you have previously started such efforts or may be involved in one by now. We found it difficult to sustain these groups nationwide without a means for people to connect easily online.
That's why we just launched a new version of our Draft Gore website, complete with new tools that will allow you to form and join chapters, network, and organize at the local level.
Since you already expressed a strong interest in this, we would like to give you the first opportunity to start chapters in your states. To get started, please visit our new website at
http://www.draftgore.com/. The local organizing tools have just been launched tonight!
It will take you a minute to register, at which time you can either start a chapter, or if one is already in place, join it. You may also post an event if you wish to host or organize one, or start a petition or ballot drive.
In a few days we'll send a message to all our supporters asking them to get involved and hopefully join the chapters you have started on our boards. At that point we expect the local efforts to really take off.
And yes, we know this is very late in the game and wish we had had these tools earlier on. But the door is still open for a Gore candidacy and we have reason to believe that Gore has not made a final decision yet. We're also waiting for the Nobel Peace Prize to be announced on October 12. Who knows? That decision could have an impact as well.
So this is the time to get organized and make a big push to show Al Gore that an army of supporters is ready to go should he throw his hat in at the last minute. And should he decide to run, our groups could become the core organization for the new campaign. I hope you'll take the lead.
Sincerely,
Monica Friedlander
Draft Gore (Draftgore.com)
imprisonslimebush - September 26, 2007 05:51 PM (GMT)
Thanks Marla and TNblue :)
I signed a petition months ago and I'm sure it was on draftgore.com, but they're calling it a new website in the email....? ::::::::confused:::::::::