Just my OPINION ladies :rolleyes: And, understand I don't want to offend anybody BUT does anyone here find the 2004 Summer Olympics rather "bizzare" and "freakish" :?:
I should note that I havn't watched 1 minute of the festivities in GREECE but as I read the USA TODAY, COLUMBUS DISPATCH, MY LOCAL PAPER and IMAGES FROM THE INTERNET the PICTURES I see of "WOMEN OF SPORTS" from around the world reminds of a "Barnum & Bailey" circus FREAK SHOW!

These WOMEN look more like MEN than the MEN DO :( :blink: :dripple: :?: If their NOT on or have been on MALE STEROIDS then I'm the FREAKIN POPE!!!

Hey..........if they want to be "guys" just give em a "penis" and create a whole category........MALE-FEMALE-and WHATEVER?

They SCARE the piss out of me :o :huh: :lol: :?:


Just my opinion.............................Andrew Paul


Is THIS what the OLYMPICS were meant to be :?: A "freak" show?

HERE'S MY SUGGESTION :clap: CANCEL all future OLYMPICS until they can "Re-Structure" and "Re-Format" BACK to the original CONCEPT! OH..............and get the FUTURE atheletes OFF THE DRUGS!

"WINNING AT ANY COST" is NOT what SPORTS should be about! Or........maybe this is another case of "PROGRESS" :?:
I don't think so :(


Have a nice day :) .......................Andrew Paul

I've been watching Beach Volleyball and don't think Misty May (who won the Gold Medal last night) looks like a man. :clap:

You know what they did in Ancient Greece don't you?
Only men participated...no women allowed to even watch. No mothers, no female family members...a reason may have been all games were played totally in the nude! :rolleyes:

:lol: :clap: James.............I'm LOOKIN at the wrong pics by sport! ERRRR! D'OH! :D And, Erin? I HEARD about that JUST this morning while I was at work! Men in the NUDE :?: I'll pass.......ha ha ha! ALSO, they made a referance to the female "russian" weightlifters........ :dripple: Glad I didn't see that pic :lol: :lol: :lol: I'm NOT into the female body builders or weightlifters!



Have a nice day :) .......................Andrew Paul

Freebird--You HAVE been looking at the wrong sports! Not only were the beach volleyball girls (of all nations) babes (to use the vernacular), but some of the gymnasts were stunning. In particular, the main Romanian gymnast (name?) was absolutely beautiful. Female athletes in general have gorgeous bodies--long, lean, muscular. They may not have the biggest boobs you ever saw, but then who'd want to be doing the balance beam or running the 400m with a pair of Ds flopping up and down in her face! :blink:

Body builders, now that's something else. I think male body builders are grotesque. Female body builders are . . . I can't quite think of the word, but freakish certainly comes close. Then again, women can't build those kinds of muscles without hormones, and I don't mean estrogen.

Misty May and Kerri Walsh are examples of beautiful, young, American women. We should all be so lucky . . . :rolleyes:

I personally don't watch it at all, because I don't need to satisfy any urges other than to watch good competition, which I think is tainted by how these Olympics are played. I am really not a fan of the Olympics as presented now, as I really see it only as an outlet for the athletes to use it for a springboard for exactly what the picture posted here proves... It isn't about the human spirit... It isn't about fair competition. It is all about sex, and how they can use it to sell themselves and make tons of money in appearances and endorsements. And it is about corporations buying up air time to brainwash more people into buying their Big Macs and SUVs which these athletes will wind up selling to make themselves money. Sorry, I'll pass.
Jan

Thank you Jan for your thoughts! You know how I FEEL!

I am SO- D A M M - SICK of "marketing people, wealthy people, spoiled rotten children, no-talent, lame-ass, useless, egotistic" A S S H O L E S who "SPAM" the networks, newspapers and media with primitive SEX!

I'm NOT A MORON! I am NOT going to BUY something just cause I see some T & A!


Bonnie Rait WAS talent :good: Just BARE BONES TALENT and NOTHING MORE!



Give me that.............It's called TALENT!


Have a nice day.............................Andrew Paul

POST SCRIPT: Here's a tidbit!

Question: Do you know why SPORTS are the AMERICAN PASTIME :?:

Answer: It HAS NOTHING to do with sports! On the H.S Level, College
Level, Professional Level? It has EVERYTHING to do with JUST
"GAMBLING"! BIG BIG $$$$ MONEY!

Did you know that?

Bonnie Raitt is a legend, Freebird. I love her music. Down to earth, bluesy, and it speaks to the heart. Like Johnny Cash's music did. My dad LOVED Johnny Cash, and I can't tell you how many times I listened to, "A Boy Named Sue", "I walked The Line", and, "Folsom Prison Blues" when I was a young girl. That's because his music touched my father's heart, and it wound up doing the same to mine. With my mother it was Frank Sinatra... The "other" love of her life. :D Raw talent should win out over fluff any day, unfortunately, it seems to be the esoteric that sells to the masses. It really has always been that way, but I guess we just notice it more now because we are aware of it. You might find this weird, but growing up, one of my favorite groups was Peter, Paul and Mary. Their music spoke to a generation, and I still listen to it today, because it made an impression on me. They weren't glamorous either, they were real people. That is what I want in any performer, and that is the talent that in my opinion lives on, even beyond them. Those who thrive on fluff may have instant fame, but it is never the kind of fame that lives forever.
Jan

Uh, did I miss something here? What did any of this have to do with sex? We're talking about athletes who train for years to be the best they can possibly be. If that yields an attractive body, then so be it. We'd all do well to be in better shape. I don't see the Olympics as selling sex. Yes, it sells merchandise because of the commercials, for sure. But sex? Most of the Olympians are examples of people with bodies in tip-top condition, people striving to be their personal best and be the best in the world.

It's about striving for excellence. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I believe Andrew was responding to my post, wherein I gave the opinion that many of these athletes do sell their "sex appeal" to get endorsements and make money. I hardly think the picture posted in this thread was put there to showcase the woman's "athletic" abilities...well, at least not on the volleyball court. I see this Olympics as merely another showcase for advertisers to sell "stuff" to a large audience, and in many instances for athletes to sell themselves. Perhaps for many of these athletes it is about sportsmanship and about fair competition ( which I think if that were the case, our basketball team and other countries wouldn't have professional NBA players on them ) and about the endurance of the human spirit, which I applaud. It is simply a shame that in many ways it is downplayed by the corporate attitude that, "sex sells." Tell me, how many men do you think would actually watch volleyball if the women playing it were dressed from head to toe? Again, sex sells, even at the Olympics. That was what Andrew and I were discussing.

Jan

I have to admit that I was a bit surprised when I saw the small bathing suits the beach volleyball women were wearing. But then I reasoned that that's probably how they dress when they're playing volleyball on the beach, and a bulkier outfit would get in the way of their performance. All the athletes, in all the sports, wore form-fitting clothes because they either aid their speed or at least don't impede their performance. Beyond that, clearly mass sports events of this or any kind have become about marketing, but I don't think most of the Olympians are thinking about the megabuck-deals they're going to make if they win. I still like to think that they wanted to win because it feels good to work so hard for so many years and know you're among the best in the world, as well as the best you can personally be. Maybe that's naive of me, but I don't think it all boils down to marketing. Ha. That comes from me, the daughter of the man who invented direct-mail marketing (among other things, the man who's responsible for those annoying subscription cards that fall out of every magazine you pick up, to mention just one thing--there's plenty more :rolleyes: ). I have an allergy to marketing as a result. Maybe I've just put blinders on?

Perhaps it has blinded you, but that's your opinion. Personally, the women who play volleyball could just as easily dress in the same suits used by the gymnasts, and it wouldn't impede a thing. Matter of fact, they could wear leotards under them and that wouldn't impede anything either. I used play in school in sweats. I think it is selling sex, and again, the picture posted here by a man proves it.
Jan

They all ought to go back to the Greek days when everyone played in the nude... :clap:

Ok..I'll hush...

Actually, I didn't watch the games this year because I am trying to get away from television hype... that is not to say that I don't want them to be successful...

Television has brainwashed so many Americans and it tries to tell us what to think and feel. I noticed it keenly in the hype leading up to the Olympcis. Really I am too worried about the events in Iraq and the erosion of our civil liberties at home to get into the Olympics...

About the beach volleyball...I'd bet if they poll the girls, they would probably say they would rather wear one peice suits..that way they wouldn't have to worry about their tops falling off. :huh:

:lol:

How 'bout a little of sense of humor here, peeps! What's wrong with sex, anyway? So they put a sexy woman next to a Ford to make men drool and think of the car and the babe in the same blurb and next thing you know they're buying the car. Well, to begin with, I doubt there are many men who buy a car because a sexy woman was standing next to it, but it does get men to pay attention to the ad, don't it? :lol: Oh, I know, the old exploitation deal. Personally--and I'd better cover my head, because I'm going to have all the feminists jumping all over me for this one--I don't see what's wrong with appreciating the human body. Show me more! If companies want to use a handsome guy or pretty girl to sell a product, I really can't say I have a problem with that. It's not like they're doing it against their will or because they have no choice (which was the old argument against porno movies and remains an issue to this day in some cases, although many porno stars have become "legit" and have achieved almost Hollywood status). So people are interested in sex. And they like to look at nice-looking bodies. Yawn. Hey, it's been making the world go 'round for centuries. No big deal, IMO.

Would you buy a used car from these girls? I would! :rolleyes:

:clap: LOL..........James A. :D Tell ya what. You can HAVE THE CAR and I'll take the LADIES :clap: I'm sure their both "USED" but that's COOL......D'OH!!!! :lol:

If I could afford it? I'd take this one........which speaks for itself!





Have a FINE evening everyone....................Andrew Paul

It isn't because people are against sex or are uptight about it that they want a modicum of decency on their tv screens, especially surrounding an event that is supposed to be devoid of such "showing off." I also think it is important to teach our children values, and that success doesn't revolve around just flaunting your outside physical "beauty", but being a success by having true character. The Olympics should be one kind of program where they can see that displayed. Looks are fleeting. Integrity, principles, character, and values last a lifetime. (And that isn't something only "ugly" people say. :lol: I have turned many heads myself over the years, but that isn't something I gauge anything important in life on, and I would never use my looks to get ahead in life. :rolleyes: ) And imo, any man who would buy a car simply because a half naked woman is standing next to it is an idiot, plain and simple. I also agree with Erin, that with all that is going on in the world, getting into the Olympics this time is also not something I have been able to do either. But there is no doubt in my mind that some of these athletes are looking for more than just a medal.
Jan

I haven't seen anything in the Olympics that I'd be afraid to let my kids see (son, 17 and daughter, 10). We've enjoyed watching the games as a family, cheering on our teams, feeling the "thrill of victory and the agony of defeat." As I said, it's all about achieving excellence, and watching these hard-working young men and women compete teaches children fine values--that striving to be your best is worthwhile, that you can't always win, that you should be happy for others when they win, and that countries can come together in the spirit of friendly competition, among other things. These athletes aren't flaunting their physical beauty for its own sake. They worked incredibly hard to achieve such a state of fitness, and if they're proud of it, they should be. As for character, any young person who is willing to put in the effort required to not only train but also continue to keep up with their school work gets an A+ in my book. They have to be able to deal with their regular lives PLUS the rigors of training, plus be able to take the hard knocks and disappointments of losing, and if they're lucky, have the opportunity to show grace and generosity upon winning.

Did I say there was anything I was "afraid" of letting my child see? I wouldn't watch the volleyball anyway, because I don't really see it as an Olympic sport. I also believe I stated that I really couldn't get into much of it because of everything else going on in this world, and in particular this country's involvement in a preemptive illegal war that is killing innocents. The pride I feel for seeing my flag raised has been greatly diminished by the current world situation. I wish that weren't so, but it is. My comments to Andrew regarding this topic were originally in context to what we were talking about at the time regarding the "sex selling" aspect of sponsors and how some of the athletes (especially the woman whose "sexy" poster was posted here that obviously wasn't made to make men think of playing volleyball) seem to be selling themselves based on their "sex appeal." Talk about twisting the message. I believe that is a valid opinion. I also didn't state that ALL the athletes were like that. I clearly stated that I did believe however, that SOME might be thinking about more than a medal. I believe that is also a valid opinion, and takes nothing away from the preparation any of them may have gone through to get there.

Jan