Title: A dire prediction based on "IF"
Reverend Wally - August 12, 2007 04:02 PM (GMT)
Because of the result of the Iowa straw poll, I am making a very dire prediction that if Al Gore does not enter the race very soon, we are all in deep deep trouble.
People are making choices on some extremely stupid reasons.
Mitt Romney won the straw poll mainly based on the idiotic premise some have that "It's time to elect a Mormon, a Black, or A Woman", rather than, "Our country needs a true intelligent patriotic leader"
Frankly, I don't see this trend changing. And I hate that.
Why in hell would anyone choose Mitt Romney over Ron Paul. This makes no damned sense at all. Period.
I am starting to think Americans are too damned stupid to do anything at all right. All it takes to confirm this is to strike up a conversation with most anyone at random. I am saying "You will be shocked" not "You might be shocked". Or to look at how young adult people act. really. Go out somewhere and try to explain any point of logic to anyone. Sometimes I am surprised people in America even know how to dress themselves. And in a lot of cases, it is blatantly obvious, sadly, that they really don't know how to dress themselves.
I feel realy bad for those of us who DO want things to be righted, because we are a minority. Most people don't have an inkling in hell about what is actually happening before their very eyes.
We are up a raging creek in a leaky boat with no paddle or anything to use as a paddle in sight .... except Gore or Paul and no one sees this but for a few.
Lately, I keep having the old Art Linkletter theme from "People Are Funny" run through my head with the lyrics changed to People Are Stupid.
"People are stupid ... da dah da dah da da .... People ... are stu-u-pid"
Sad
:unsure:
ReElectAlGore2008 - August 12, 2007 05:34 PM (GMT)
The top 3 republicans did not attend
Mitt in fourth place spent 5 mnillion dollars to get less people to show up than in 1999-2000 race.
And they literally bought the votes at some 35 dollar a piece
This vote is meaningless.
Reverend Wally - August 12, 2007 06:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ReElectAlGore2008 @ Aug 12 2007, 01:34 PM) |
The top 3 republicans did not attend
Mitt in fourth place spent 5 mnillion dollars to get less people to show up than in 1999-2000 race.
And they literally bought the votes at some 35 dollar a piece
This vote is meaningless. |
Then that just goes to prove ...
"People are making choices on some extremely stupid reasons."
:?:
ALGOREismylife - August 12, 2007 06:29 PM (GMT)
Even the thought of a Mormon president scares the hell out of me. I have to admit, I have studied with Mormons in the past to learn about their religion. It's twisted and definitely wasn't for me. No one is going to tell me I'm a sinner because I drink coffee. And this Joseph Smith person they worship???? Mormonism is a corrupt cult. :bad:
A MORMON republican president, no way. :bad:
And another thing, I don't like Mitt Romney's cocky arrogant attitude. :bad:
dbciii - August 12, 2007 08:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Reverend Wally @ Aug 12 2007, 10:02 AM) |
Mitt Romney won the straw poll mainly based on the idiotic premise some have that "It's time to elect a Mormon, a Black, or A Woman", rather than, "Our country needs a true intelligent patriotic leader"
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Do you base this on anything other than wild speculation?
Reverend Wally - August 13, 2007 12:30 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dbciii @ Aug 12 2007, 04:59 PM) |
| QUOTE (Reverend Wally @ Aug 12 2007, 10:02 AM) | Mitt Romney won the straw poll mainly based on the idiotic premise some have that "It's time to elect a Mormon, a Black, or A Woman", rather than, "Our country needs a true intelligent patriotic leader"
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Do you base this on anything other than wild speculation?
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Yes, I do. But I did not think that I would have to bring evidence with me to this post.
I will keep this in mind, and when I visit those writings again, I will bring links, or quotes listing where I read, or heard the things that triggered that statements.
For now, I can say that one of the things that triggered that was a conversation I had with a salesman who came to our door, who turned out to be a Mormon, whom I had, in passing statement, tried to explain why Al Gore was the best hope for a presidential candidate. This prompted him to talk of his support for Mitt Romney based on the reason that they are both Mormon.
I recently had a similar conversation in a grocery market with a woman that flat out told me she was going to vote for Hillary based on the idea that she thought it was time for a "woman president". That conversation ended going nowhere, because she maintained that she would not vote for Gore because she thought that "global warming" was just a scam to get people to spend money on new ideas rather than sticking with gas powered cars and status quo methods of producing electric power.
Another time I was promoting Gore to a teacher, of all people, and she said she was going to vote for Rudy Giuliani based on his 'ahem' "splendid performance on Set 11, 2001".
Somewhere in this forum is a thread that states that either a poll or an article said thyat "women prefer Hillary". I cannot find that post, and it may not be what I just said verbatim, but it is in that vein of thought.
But from now on I will try to bring evidence to show what I base my statements on.
And, basically, much of what is posted in many of the political debating, or campaign oriented forums is based on conjecture in many cases, albeit that much of the conjecture might be based on things learned, but not documented, in other public forums such as media, and conversations with peers.
My post was a commentary based on a lot of things I have seen and heard lately.
:?:
Reverend Wally - August 13, 2007 01:26 AM (GMT)
I'm glad this one wasn't hiding to jump on me. It was the post thread above the one I made .... LOL
http://z8.invisionfree.com/Al_Gore_Support...?showtopic=7339 :wacko:
Reverend Wally - August 13, 2007 02:34 AM (GMT)
In retrospect, let me add to the lists of reasons the following, "The price paid for the vote"
:angry:
Patsy - August 13, 2007 03:40 AM (GMT)
Rev. Wally
This shows that most people should not be voting becasue they have no idea what they are doing. Can you even think of voting for Hillary because it it time for a "Woman President?" This is what happened in 2000 when they voted for a man that you like to have a beer with.
Reverend Wally - August 13, 2007 04:13 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Patsy @ Aug 12 2007, 11:40 PM) |
Rev. Wally
This shows that most people should not be voting becasue they have no idea what they are doing. Can you even think of voting for Hillary because it it time for a "Woman President?" This is what happened in 2000 when they voted for a man that you like to have a beer with. |
Sort of my point.
Actually, it would be nice if somehow the American people could be given a shot of IQ.
LOL
:wacko:
AlGoreFan - August 13, 2007 05:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Reverend Wally @ Aug 12 2007, 06:30 PM) |
| QUOTE (Reverend Wally @ Aug 12 2007, 10:02 AM) | | I did not think that I would have to bring evidence with me to this post. |
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Any vote for Paul has to be accompanied with evidence. Enough has been laid out here to show those votes to be wasted and astray.
Reverend Wally - August 13, 2007 06:24 AM (GMT)
I am for Gore.
I just respect Ron Paul.
I would just like to see a miracle and the two of them team up. I can dream .... right ... :rolleyes:
dbciii - August 17, 2007 05:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Reverend Wally @ Aug 12 2007, 06:30 PM) |
| QUOTE (dbciii @ Aug 12 2007, 04:59 PM) | | QUOTE (Reverend Wally @ Aug 12 2007, 10:02 AM) | Mitt Romney won the straw poll mainly based on the idiotic premise some have that "It's time to elect a Mormon, a Black, or A Woman", rather than, "Our country needs a true intelligent patriotic leader"
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Do you base this on anything other than wild speculation?
|
Yes, I do. But I did not think that I would have to bring evidence with me to this post.
I will keep this in mind, and when I visit those writings again, I will bring links, or quotes listing where I read, or heard the things that triggered that statements.
For now, I can say that one of the things that triggered that was a conversation I had with a salesman who came to our door, who turned out to be a Mormon, whom I had, in passing statement, tried to explain why Al Gore was the best hope for a presidential candidate. This prompted him to talk of his support for Mitt Romney based on the reason that they are both Mormon.
I recently had a similar conversation in a grocery market with a woman that flat out told me she was going to vote for Hillary based on the idea that she thought it was time for a "woman president". That conversation ended going nowhere, because she maintained that she would not vote for Gore because she thought that "global warming" was just a scam to get people to spend money on new ideas rather than sticking with gas powered cars and status quo methods of producing electric power.
Another time I was promoting Gore to a teacher, of all people, and she said she was going to vote for Rudy Giuliani based on his 'ahem' "splendid performance on Set 11, 2001".
Somewhere in this forum is a thread that states that either a poll or an article said thyat "women prefer Hillary". I cannot find that post, and it may not be what I just said verbatim, but it is in that vein of thought.
But from now on I will try to bring evidence to show what I base my statements on.
And, basically, much of what is posted in many of the political debating, or campaign oriented forums is based on conjecture in many cases, albeit that much of the conjecture might be based on things learned, but not documented, in other public forums such as media, and conversations with peers.
My post was a commentary based on a lot of things I have seen and heard lately.
:?:
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I guess its a matter of phraseology - that groups of people support someone they feel "a bond" with due to race, gender, or religion is not news. We all know there are plenty like that.
Your use of the expression "It's time to elect a Mormon..." is what I was taken aback by. I really don't think enough non-Mormons in Iowa think that to have made him win the straw poll. He won it because he spent big bucks, loaded people on buses and took them to vote, etc.
As to Black or Woman - yeah, there are people who think that. And the Mormon you met is not so much thinking "it is time to", but "I like him because he is from my (tribe, clan, whatever)" because people are basically tribal animals.
He's going to need a WHOLE LOT MORE than the Mormon voter bloc to get very far! How many electoral votes does Utah have? Two? I'll happily pit the dem nominee against THAT!
dbciii - August 17, 2007 05:12 AM (GMT)
"And in a lot of cases, it is blatantly obvious, sadly, that they really don't know how to dress themselves."
Sometimes, of course, it is not so sad! :D :P