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Title: SO? Where are the CHURCHES?
Description: Enlighten me?


FreeBird - August 21, 2004 01:40 PM (GMT)
Just wondered? Hurricane Charley has brought out the "RED-CROSS", "FEMA", "LOCAL SUPPORT AGENCIES", "SUPPORT FROM ACROSS THE NATION FROM CARING INDIVIDUALS" :?: (who can least afford it???)


BUT..............where oh where are ALL THE Multi-Million DOLLAR "FAITH-BASED-TAX EXEMPT-ORGANIZATIONS" located in BEAUTIFUL FLORIDA.............. NOW :?:

They(the THOUSANDS of WEALTHY CHURCH DENOMINATIONS) SPEND 50 MILLION DOLLARS++++ to BUILD THEIR "SUNDAY MORNING CHURCH THEATERS" but GEEZ.............when it's CRUNCH TIME ............GOD IS NOT AVAILABLE...... HUH???????????

What a BUNCH of BULLSHIT, LAMEASS, PATHETHIC, LYING, EVIL, CORRUPT, PIECE OF SHIT, LOOSERS THEY ARE!


Have a nice day........................Andrew Pauluser posted image

NOTE:
FLORIDA gets MORE HELP FROM people that can LEAST AFFORD then the ONES WHO SAID they would ALWAYS BE THERE IN THE EVENT!

Well...............come on ***PAT ROBERTSON***, ***GEORGE BUSH***, ***DICK CHENEY***, ***JERRY FALWELL***, ***BILLY"f*ckIN"GRAHAM***..........PUT YOUR MONEY(Trillions.....no doubt now) WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS :tongue:


WHY DON'T YA'ALL****NOW DONATE****A "PORTION" OF THE BILLIONS OF "TAX-FREE"$$$$$$$$$$$MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$ THAT YOU "SATANS" HAVE RECIEVED THRU THE YEARS :?:

Patriot For Gore - August 21, 2004 02:01 PM (GMT)
They can't help in Florida, because they are PHONIES... They are also too busy trying to convert Iraqis in Camp Redemption to Christianity.... Remember, to Bush and his holy rollers a Democracy is not a Democracy unless Christianity is the religion. I will have to look up the reports I read about those who went over there with Bibles and post them here. And, just think of the name of the sprawling camp next to Abu Ghraib... REDEMPTION? What do they need to redeem themselves from? It sounds like the name of a tent revivial to me. Make no mistake about it, this attack on Iraq besides being about oil and profit, was a big gift to Bush's Rw evangelical wacko friends who have sent delegations over there to try to convert Muslims. I'm beginning to wonder if that ties into the abuse at Abu Ghraib. Those who would not denounce Allah get beaten up and tortured, and those who do become Iraqi guards and police with a promise of food and income. I wouldn't be a bit surprised. After Bush said God told him to attack Iraq, we know what wackos we are dealing with here and for the life of me I can't understand why the 25th amendment hasn't been invoked yet!

Jan

FreeBird - August 21, 2004 02:07 PM (GMT)
Thank you......jan.......for your response. It ALL makes me "sick and ill" in my SOUL to see such a travesty!!! I can't even THINK anymore about ALL THIS maddness!

REPUBLICANS new all the RIGHT BUTTONS to push..........didn't they?

THOSE buttons "converted and redeemed" into CASH$$$DOLLARS$$$
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Saturday August 21, 2004 (CNN)
God's WAR?

IS "GOD" ASLEEP? OR, AT A "COUNTRY CLUB" MAYBE?

WOW :dripple:

Peace to ya...................Andrew Pauluser posted image

Patriot For Gore - August 21, 2004 02:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (FreeBird @ Aug 21 2004, 10:07 AM)
Thank you......jan.......for your response. It ALL makes me "sick and ill" in my SOUL to see such a travesty!!! I can't even THINK anymore about ALL THIS maddness!

REPUBLICANS new all the RIGHT BUTTONS to push..........didn't they?

THOSE buttons "converted and redeemed" into CASH$$$DOLLARS$$$

IS "GOD" ASLEEP? OR, AT A "COUNTRY CLUB" MAYBE?

WOW :dripple:

Peace to ya...................Andrew Pauluser posted image

This is just one article I found. There are many more, and I think we can safely say this is going on in Iraq. I can hear them now... "Jesus saved you from Saddam Hussein, and freed you, and now wants you to follow him"... Unethical and immoral no doubt to any real Christian who also respects the religions of others, and realizes that Allah did not bring Hussien to them, it was the CIA that did that.
Jan


Jesus in Baghdad
Why we should keep Franklin Graham out of Iraq.
By Steven Waldman
Posted Friday, April 11, 2003, at 3:23 PM PT

http://slate.msn.com/id/2081432

With the exception of his unfortunate post-Sept. 11 call for a "crusade" against terrorism, President George Bush has fashioned his rhetoric about Islam carefully. The administration has scrupulously crafted numerous speeches that make clear that the United States is not making war on Islam, even as it hunts down Osama Bin Laden and invades Iraq.

I believe him: Ever since he was the governor of Texas in the mid-1990s, Bush has been friendly to Muslims and to Islam and has pointedly referred to "churches, synagogues, and mosques" in speeches. But I wouldn't believe Bush if I were a Muslim in the Middle East and saw his attitude toward Franklin Graham.

Franklin Graham is the son of Billy Graham and a far more influential figure in the evangelical Christian community than Jerry Falwell or even Pat Robertson. Graham is viewed as the torch-carrier for his father, who is still among the most beloved figures in American Christianity. Moreover, the Graham family is close to Bush. Billy Graham led Bush to Christianity in the 1980s; Franklin Graham delivered the invocation at his presidential inauguration.

In addition to being publicly allied with the Bush administration, Graham also happens to be stridently anti-Islam. His list of anti-Islam comments is long; his most succinct was that Islam is a "very evil and wicked religion."

Graham is also, he says, "poised and ready" to send representatives of the charity he runs to Iraq as soon as possible. His primary purpose is humanitarian aid—providing food and shelter—but he also admits, "I believe as we work, God will always give us opportunities to tell others about his Son. … We are there to reach out to love them and to save them, and as a Christian, I do this in the name of Jesus Christ."

Graham is not alone in wanting to work in Iraq. A number of other Christian groups—including the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant denomination—are packing their bags and heading to Iraq (if they're not already there), equipped with food, shelter, and Bibles. (These well-wishers are not to be confused with an Army chaplain who forced his troops to get baptized if they wanted a bath.)

There are reasons to have great respect for Graham: He has used his considerable fund-raising prowess to build up a humanitarian organization, Samaritan's Purse, rather than a crystal cathedral or a Bible theme park. Samaritan's Purse has done extraordinary work in many of the most difficult and impoverished places in the world. It spends a more than $100 million a year on aiding the needy. (It should be noted that Muslim radicals have attacked hospitals and projects run by Samaritan's Purse, which may, in some small way, have incited Graham's anti-Islam rhetoric.)

But I'm not sure any of this means that America's foreign-policy objectives are served by having a Bush-loving, Islam-bashing, Muslim-converting Christian icon on the ground in Iraq tending to the bodies and souls of the grateful but deeply suspicious Muslim population. Or, to put it more simply, the idea is absolutely loopy.

The Bush administration has taken a highly principled position of removing itself from discussion of the matter: Ari Fleischer insists that the administration can't block a private group from doing its thing. Ellen Yount, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Agency for International Development, which is coordinating the humanitarian efforts, elaborated: "What private charitable organizations choose to do without U.S. government funding is ultimately their decision. How could the U.S. government control that? We can't just say to an organization, 'You can or cannot do something,' if we don't fund them. Imagine what the United States Congress would say to us."

The idea that the U.S. government is powerless to do anything about Samaritan's Purse seems odd. We can obliterate another nation's army in a few weeks, but when it comes to reining in a disruptive charity, well, our hands our tied? Besides, given the Bush-Graham connection, reining in Franklin Graham need not even be an official government action. I'm pretty sure that if George Bush or Colin Powell called up Graham and asked him to stand down, he probably would, without a single regulatory shot fired.

Some, like the highly respected Michael Cromartie, director of evangelical studies for the conservative Ethics and Public Policy Center, may argue that such interference would endanger a fundamental American principle. "Religious liberty and religious freedom trump other concerns," Cromartie says. "And it is not the job of the Bush administration to tell private relief agencies which countries they can and cannot enter."

In fact, religious liberty does not trump all concerns. Among the concerns it does not trump is the safety of our soldiers and the desire not to have the entire Muslim world wanting to wage war against America. And make no mistake: Franklin Graham's mission to Iraq will help convince the Arab world that America is out to convert Muslims to Christianity. What Graham is doing probably isn't illegal; it's merely immoral.

The administration's sudden fastidiousness about civil liberties has everything to do with who Franklin Graham is: not only a friend of Bush's, but, along with his supporters and the Southern Baptist Convention, arguably the largest and most loyal voting bloc in Bush's re-election strategy. And so Bush refuses to do unto Franklin Graham as was done unto Sister Souljah. This is cowardly. To be fair—or maybe to be generous—Bush may be leaving Graham alone because he thinks that Samaritan's Purse does good humanitarian work and that's what the Iraqis need most desperately. And I do believe that half of Graham's motivation is genuinely to help feed people—the other half being the desire to save the souls of some Muslims by helping them find Jesus before they die of thirst.

There is a way Graham can help Iraqis without hurting America. He could organize a national fund-raising effort to help Iraqi families and pledge that all funds will be distributed by a neutral group like Mercy Corps, Save the Children, or Doctors Without Borders. Better yet, he could give the money to the Red Crescent. Imagine the photo of Franklin Graham—and George Bush—handing over a check, generated by gifts of millions of Christians, standing in front of a great big Islamic crescent. This would not only help the Iraqis in the aftermath of the war, but could improve interfaith tolerance.

Though it frightens me to engage in a battle-of-the-Bible-verses with Franklin Graham, I do have to point out that when Jesus was sending forth his disciples to preach the word, he pointedly told them to stay away from Gentiles and out of Samaria because the Gentiles/Samarians would not welcome the message (Matthew 10:5). There would be a time for that, he seemed to be saying—but not now.


FreeBird - August 21, 2004 02:35 PM (GMT)
Enjoyed your offering.......jan :clap:

MONEY, MONEY, PRAISE JESUS, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, PRAISE JESUS :( MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, PRRRRRRAISE JEEEEESUS :lol: :lol: :lol: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
PRAISE JESUS, PRAISE JESUS, PRAAAAAAAAAAISE JESUS,$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$SHOW ME THE GREEN DEAR JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
user posted image$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You get the point :angry:

Maybe GEORGE W. BUSH and HIS "FOLLOWING" need some more LESSONS :?:


That can be arranged...................Andrew Pauluser posted image

FreeBird - August 21, 2004 02:56 PM (GMT)
"The lord giveth and the lord taketh away"
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P R A I S E+++ J E S U S .......COOL :)

Take it for what it's worth! It can mean anything you want it to mean!
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Have a nice day :) .................Andrew Pauluser posted image

ErinB - August 21, 2004 05:42 PM (GMT)
What IS that? The Shroud of Turin?
No....it looks creepy whatever it is. Doin that number on my spine. Yikes! :blink:

My huband's aunt says the press down there in Fla is talking mostly about rich people who lost property and basically ignoring the poor folks. She says there is a trailer park near her with poor folks she is helping out.

FreeBird - August 21, 2004 05:50 PM (GMT)
God BLESS your husband's aunt :) I am sure she will HELP OUT as much as she can! She sounds like GOOD PEOPLE :good: user posted image That's beautiful!


Does this picture give ya the "creeps"? Yes, it's a "doctored" picture of the "Shroud of Turin".

Hope ya don't mind?


Peace to ya always..............Andrew Pauluser posted image

ErinB - August 21, 2004 06:03 PM (GMT)
No, I don't mind...But is that a phallic symbol or a mushroom cloud or both?
You don't have to answer..I take it we are supposed to use our imaginations.
:lol:

Sometimes I think Bush and co. use religion as an excuse to destroy the earth. Like they want Revelations to come true. :unsure:

FreeBird - August 21, 2004 06:21 PM (GMT)
Ha ha........Erin :lol: Yea, just use your imagination :clap:


As far as George Bush making "revelations" come true :?: :unsure: :(


Well, he's on a "ROLL" isn't he? And one "HELL" of a good start :bad: if I might say!

Lord knows................there are MORE THAN ENOUGH "weapons of mass destruction" out there!!! And, ALSO some "VERY DISTURBED" individuals who are "JUST LOOKIN" for an EXCUSE to use em :dripple: THEY DON'T CARE!!!



Go out and smell the roses :clap: .............Andrew Pauluser posted image




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