I think we should work to find out how many people favor impeaching the present administration. How many think it will be too late by January 2009 to turn this war around, and by then they may have attacked Iran.

Alberto Gonzalez should also be impeached, for lying to Congress repeatedly, for incompetence, for malfeasance, and for decimating the Justice Department.

Different topic, I know.

I do not want to see impeachment frankly. I think Al Gore or any other Democrat are in far better shape if Bush/Cheney serve to the very last day of their terms.

If we impeach Bush, Cheney becomes president. He must "appoint" a Vice President. Just for grins lets say he selects Mitt Romney. Then shortly thereafter Cheney steps down for health reasons, Romney becomes president and appoints say Fred Thompson as Vice President...and the election is still six months away. Would you prefer to run againsta sitting Romney-Thompson team?

A lot of people would cry foul saying that this was a republican plan to win 2008...but all they would have to say was it was a reaction to the democrats impeaching Bush...

I just want two lame ducks in office so we dont have to face a stitting republican presidnet again.

Remember too that Impeachment is just accusation, a "charge". It is not conviction by itself

"Remember too that Impeachment is just accusation, a "charge". It is not conviction by itself "

Hence my user ID "imprisonslimebush" (and vampire cheney)

IMPEACH and IMPRISON is too good for Bush and Cheney. As far as their replacements until the next election, there can't be anyone worse than Bush and Cheney. All republicans are bad news and corrupt, but Bush and Cheney are way ahead of them all.

After all, Bush and Cheney are pure criminals, the worst of the worst.

Impeach Gonzales and Cheney first

:spikey:

"All republicans are bad news and corrupt,"

Except Ron Paul, apparently...
And of course there's some dems that fall into that category---maybe MORE than some: like I said before, they must be getting paid off to not even think about impeachment of the corrupt dictatorship.

I see your points and I agree with them, practically speaking. But as an idealist, I must say, I feel that in order to preserve ideally the constitution and absolute integrity of the rule of law in this great country, shrub should be impeached, because he has not once, not twice, but consistently and flagrantly flouted the Constitution, rule of law, system of checks and balances, ETC. He's a thug. His administration is a junta. If we let that ride, aren't we ignoring our duty to defend and protect the rule of law?

...All that said, I do agree with your points and, again from a purely practical and mercenary standpoint, I have to concur that it is better to let things ride. Besides, Bush has already done such a profound amount of damage to this country and the world, that we might as well just let this awful horror show play out and then come in and clean up behind it. He's already done his worst. The time to stop him would have been to HAVE THE RECOUNT IN 2000. This is basically Katherine Harris' fault. But I digress...

Not so ... !

In the next year and a half the Bush Crime Syndicate may very well overturn all constitutional laws and finalize the neo fascist goal of making the US a dictatorship.

They need to be stopped NOW.

We do NOT have the luxury of sitting and watching their corruption of our nation, so don't let your comfort zone over rule any inclination to logical thought.

I'm gonna have to go with the Rev. on this one too. They are criminals and cannot be let off so easily!! A year and a half is a VERY long time in Bush-years!! Just think of how many more will die during that time, how many laws will be ignored or trampled on.

Oh, no - they must go, and the sooner the better! The precident that is being set is unacceptable. The history books must show that we the people did know where the line in the sand was, and who crossed it! Impeach NOW!

It is extemely selfish of people to care more about the 2008 race than about our constitution being stolen
If there is not an impeachment, there will be no honest 2008 race.
Impeachment is a must.

Actually it is not selfish at all. Impeaching Cheney or Bush now could easily guarantee 8 MORE years of this type of government. To take that chance with the whole country because you want to punish Cheney, punish him right now... is what is selfish.

If you so personally desperately need them to be punished, (as your signature implies) then first make sure Democrats are elected as President/VP and get 60 Senators and a large majority of the House...THEN...and only then...do you go after them with investigations because you can make the punishments stick. But make sure the chairs of the investigating comittees are demorcrats and make sure they have super majorities otherwise you are just pissing into the wind now. Feingold can't even get a mild rebuke, a censure going and you want impeachment? Just silly.

I agree that Cheney is one of the most evil men who have ever lived...but I want us all to be smart about this. Investigate and accuse when you control things, not now when you really don't.

And to do that...you MUST focus on the 2008 elections.

To be open and awake to the needs of the country, we must look at the big picture. To seek change in 08, but not to seek impeachment in 07, is contradicting, in my opinion. I just don't see us getting the change we want if we leave these criminals in office. They have already taken too many liberties, and show no signs of slowing!! At the rate we're spiraling downward, there will be no election in 08!! If we don't make a solidified effort to correct the problem now, they will certainly take the office again, and then we'll have no recourse. Their power will only continue to fester. To do what is right, we must hold them accountable.

I see working for change to be a multi-faceted endeavor. Supporting Gore for President in 08, for me at least, simply goes hand-in-hand with impeachment. It is all part of working for the greater good: repairing what is going on currently and preparing for the future. If we fail to address the problems that got us where we are now, we will only continue to suffer under their oppression. And without Gore, I just don't see any real progress on the horizon.

It may not be popular to say, but I think Nagasakee has some valid points. I favor impeachment and think that it's justified, but I don't expect that it will happen and I understand why many Democratic politicians don't want to go there.

As evil is starting to unravel and destroy itself, we don't need a united and energized Republican Party and people starting to feel sorry for Bush. If we want impeachment then it has to be bi-partisan. Republicans have to get on board or it's not going to really happen. Back in the Watergate days Richard Nixon was told by Barry Goldwater and other principled Republicans that he would have to resign or be impeached. It wasn't the Democrats who forced Nixon to resign.

Is there a single Republican Senator even willing to censure Dick Cheney today? :?:

Why choose between them? We need a move toward impeachment (even if it fails) AND drafting Al Gore and electing a Democratic supermajority in 2008.

If we continue to roll over, many more thousands of American soldiers and Iraqi civilians will die needlessly, the Constitution will be shredded beyond all recognition, and even as early as this summer (before Bush-Cheney are forced to end the surge in the fall) we might even see a staged 9-11 type event to facilitate a national emergency martial law situation. (I'm going to post an article about this in the Bush-Cheney category). They will never leave Iraq of their own volition. They will never allow any of their syndicate to be accountable. They will never give up power willingly. The fact that reality is not going their way is not stopping them from what looks like their plan for a war with Iran (and if we do suffer an "act of terrorism", I have little doubt that we will be living the next neo-con chapter of their PNAC strategy: the attempt to take over the entire middle east and foment a totalitarian regime at home. We ain't seen nuthin' yet; they are halfway there).

Yes, it should be - has to be - bipartisan. The country is open to it. But it has to be sustained by us on the left. If we continue to roll over, the approval for those currently in the majority will reach minus infinity. All the hope we felt after the Nov. election is fading in the sad light of our spineless damn-dumb-dim-democrats who have yet to really stand up for us. I'm so angry at Pelosi for taking impeachment off the table, and if I were in her district, I'd support Cindy Sheehan's run for her House seat. Cindy led a group of a couple hundred protesters to Rep. John Conyers office to ask him to institute the resolution for impeachment today. He said he didn't have the votes; a large number of protesters were arrested today.

CITIZENS FIGHTING FOR THE PRESERVATION, PROTECTION, AND DEFENSE OF THEIR CONSTITUTION ARE ARRESTED; THOSE IN HIGH OFFICE WHO COMMIT WAR CRIMES, TREASON, PERJURY, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, FRAUD, ETC. ARE FREE TO CONTINUE THEIR REIGN OF EVIL - unless we at least try to stop them - before they kill again.

So as you can see, I support impeachment. Cheney. Bush. Gonzales. And let's throw in Scalia too! But I'd settle for Cheney and Bush. 2007: Impeachment. 2008: President Pelosi (if she has the cojones to step up); 2009: President Gore.

I don't have much hope for it. But the last election re-lit the pilot light for reclaiming our country. We should at least fight to keep it alive, until...

Actually, shouldn't the topic of impeachment be in the Bush-Cheney regime category?
:?:

That topic needs to be EVERYWHERE .... period.

Actually, yes and it's been moved to 'Bush-Cheney regime.'