I thought all 2500 scientists all agreed on global warming. I think this is a great opportunity for Al Gore to make a stand against someone willing to debate him.

The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley presents his compliments to Vice-President Albert Gore and by these presents challenges the said former Vice-President to a head-to-head, internationally-televised debate upon the question “That our effect on climate is not dangerous,” to be held in the Library of the Oxford University Museum of Natural History at a date of the Vice-President’s choosing.

This is his supposed web-site: http://ff.org/centers/csspp/misc/index.html

There are those scientist who are paid by or receive grants from large companies opposed to the theory of Global Warming. Al Gore needs not debate these dubious individuals. He has clearly spoken concerning the issues along with the vast majority of notable scientist on the subject and the rest of the world unanimously agreeing with his findings. This is only another devious effort to support the continued pollution of our environment by our own emissions for commercial purposes.

Tell us debateglobalwarming, just where do you stand?

I don't see the benefit of debating every crackpot that wants publicity.

I looked at the link provided. It's called "The Center for Science and Public Policy". :dripple: What a crock of fecal matter. It's a site for those in denial to put a very thin veneer of science over their debunked wishful-thinking.

Debate Global Warming is for....debating both sides of global warming and why it is happening. The recent rise in temperature is documented and that is not what needs to be debated. The debate is why the temperature has risen. Is it strictly due to carbon emissions (CO2)? Does it have to do with solar cycles (sun spots and solar particles hitting the earth's oceans which create clouds)? Does it have to do with a multitude of different things, some of which man controls and others man does not?

I think everyone would benefit to be educated on global warming. What could possibly be wrong with listening to both sides of the issue?

Most recently the American public was scared silly by the barrage of "TERROR ALERTS" before the 2004 election. After the GOP won the election, the terror alerts died down and then stopped!! It only makes sense to me that scaring people has been an effective tactic for a long time on many things (AIDS issues, The Church, Politics, etc.).

I am for getting away from the dependency on oil and finding alternative sources of energy. At this time, I haven't made up my mind either way on the present issue and would like to make an informed decision based on the science of global warming, not the politics.

If you really want the scientific proof then look to the vast majority of highly qualified environmental scientist, the most highly regarded in their field I might add, who agree with all Al Gore had to say. After all he got it from them not in one of his dreams. Look to the scientist worldwide who have also agreed. Or you can demand a debate using the paid scientist from Exxon, Mobil, the Coal industry and others seeking to debunk it for financial gain.

The truth is already before you. Just open your eyes.

Great, then have the scientists who are on the side of CO2 warming the planet debate against the scientists who have another viewpoint. I want to make up my own mind on global warming based upon the scientific evidence both sides present.

The best ideas are a result of two opposing viewpoints. The earth was once the center of the universe....and it was flat. People who said otherwise were heretics and many killed for an opposing point of view.

I have some questions of my own...

Then take the time to study. We have and have found answers to our questions. You should be able to do the same.

I'll just close this needless conversation with one very simple question. Why did you come here to waste our time. You seem to think you know all the answers so is it to convince yourself your really smart, or like so many others just to annoy.

Bye now, go back to your sacred where ever it is you came from. You should have more luck on your prized Bushie site.
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Its a shame that there needs to be further debates on this issue. The issue itself needs to shelved in a museum some where.

Global Warming Debate UPDATE:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3229696&page=1

At some point, lacking credible evidence to the contrary, you have to make a call. The debate on whether human caused global warming is real is over. Crackpots, curmudgeons, and cranky conspiracy theorists will continue to debate decided science for years. Let them have at it; I'll take a pass :wacko:

What debate?

http://www.ipcc.ch/

Anything and everything else is merely big business sponsored propaganda.

You're late to the party debateglobalwarming, educate yourself before coming here appearing to be a shill of big business. :rolleyes:

The Brazilian state of Amazonas has just adopted a new law to help protect the rain forest in particular and the earth generally.

Here's one link

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4864386.html

Admin. note: I have deleted certain posts in this thread because they didn't further honest debate about this issue. Reputable articles from reputable scientists will be allowed. Honest debate will be allowed. Dishonest posting of one's personal agenda, as was done here, will not be allowed. Sun spots, end of ice ages, etc. . . . these have all been dismissed by the scientific community regarding the current climate crisis. The earth's temperature is rising rapidly and dangerously. This can't be explained by sun-spot activity and isn't concurrent with what has happened at the end of ice ages (and I suppose I don't need to mention that we're currently not at the end of an ice age, so this is irrelevant anyway).

Please don't post here as if you're looking for honest debate. You're not. Take it somewhere else.

The naysayers really expose themselves as either very ignorant or naive. The facts are there. You need nothing more than the worldwide retreat of glaciers to validate the FACT that something is happening. To deny it is like sitting at a rail crossing with a freight train going by and saying "what train?"


There was a time, not so long ago, when many people thought human activity could not POSSIBLY affect such vast ecosystems as the oceans. People lived in a state of denial. The supply of cod off the coast of New England and Newfoundland was limitless - infinite.

Now that cod population has crashed and the fishery is gone.

This is only one tiny example. Honest discussion of exactly how a given activity influences change, and even how much, is fine. But it seems like everyone who questions Gore's basic premise has to be belligerent, mocking, resort to namecalling.
That only exposes them for what they really are - the bratty kid in the back of the classroom trying to get attention.

Note: Post deleted and member banned. :banned:

And you have the brain of a brick...no a brick is more intelligent.

You've spread your lies now go insult someone else with your stupidity.

I percieve that we are being invaded by neo-con dis-informationalists.

We do seem to have a suddenly large group attacking in numerous places lately?

They're getting scared that Gore will come in a blow everyone, Repugs and Dems, out of the water! They know he can't be beat by any of them!!

Note from Admin.: We don't allow links to articles or posts that contain misinformation, so your last three posts have been deleted. Please see the links in the posts below to educate yourself about the truth and science behind the global warming debate.

More links:

http://www.ipcc.ch/

and more:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20122975/site/newsweek/

Wrong, 2006 was the hottest year ever in the U.S. I know it was definitely one of the hottest summers I ever seen.


http://opinenetwork.typepad.com/opine_blog...on_global_.html

Jul 19, 2006
Hottest Year Ever

It's the hottest year ever according to a new U.S. climate report.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The first six months of 2006 were the warmest, on average, since the United States started keeping records in 1895, and global warming is a contributing factor, a U.S. climate expert said on Wednesday.



http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8...&show_article=1

Warm December Pushes 2006 to Record Year

Jan 9 03:21 PM US/Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) - Last year was the warmest on record for the United States, with readings pushed over higher than normal by the unusual and unseasonably warm weather during the last half of December.

Preliminary data from the National Climatic Data Center listed the average temperature for the 48 contiguous states last year as 55 degrees Fahrenheit. That's 2.2 degrees warmer than average and 0.07 degree warmer than 1998, the previous warmest year on record.

Worldwide, the agency said, it was the sixth warmest year on record.

In December the Center had predicted that 2006 would be the United States' third warmest year, but unusual readings later that month pushed the year into first place.

The Center said it is not clear how much of the warming is a result of greenhouse-gas induced climate change and how much resulted from the current El Nino warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean.

El Nino conditions occur every few years in the Pacific and can affect climate around the world, including producing warmer conditions in the United States.

The average U.S. and global temperature are both about 1 degree warmer than at the start of the 20th century, a change many scientists attribute to gases released into the atmosphere by industrial processes.

The temperature data was collected from a network of more than 1,200 stations across the country.

The climate center said the unusual warmth in early winter reduced residential energy needs by 13.5 percent compared to average conditions for the season.

While December started cold, spring-like conditions reigned in the eastern states during the last half of the month, making it the nation's fourth warmest December. Five states had their warmest December on record—Minnesota, New York, Connecticut, Vermont and New Hampshire. No state was colder than average in December.

Just wait until the numbers are in for 2007. We're SO hot and bone dry here. I've had to fill my doggie pool for the toads, rabbits, and birds in my yard so they don't land on my drink and try to take it away. :!: