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al001 - February 24, 2007 07:56 PM (GMT)
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The New York Times

Christian Right Labors to Find ’08 Candidate

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: February 25, 2007

WASHINGTON, Feb. 24 — A group of influential Christian conservatives and their allies emerged from a private meeting at a Florida resort this month dissatisfied with the Republican presidential field and uncertain where to turn.

The event was a meeting of the Council for National Policy, a secretive club whose few hundred members include Dr. James C. Dobson of Focus on the Family, the Rev. Jerry Falwell of Liberty University and Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform. Although little known outside the conservative movement, the council has become a pivotal stop for Republican presidential primary hopefuls, including then-Gov. George W. Bush on the eve of his 1999 primary campaign.

But in a stark shift from the group’s influence under President Bush, the group risks relegation to the margins. Many of the conservatives who attended the event, held at the beginning of the month at the Ritz Carlton on Amelia Island, Fla., said they were dismayed at the absence of a champion to carry their banner in the next election.

Many conservatives have already declared their hostility to Senator John McCain of Arizona, who once denounced Christian conservative leaders as “agents of intolerance,” and former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani of New York, a liberal on abortion and gay rights issues who has been married three times.

But many were also deeply suspicious of former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts; the council has been distributing to its members a dossier prepared by a Massachusetts conservative group about liberal elements of his record on abortion, stem cell research, gay rights and gun control. Mr. Romney says he has become more conservative.

And some members of the council have raised doubts about lesser known candidates — Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas and Representative Duncan Hunter of California, who were invited to Amelia Island to address an elite audience of about 60 of its members, and Senator Sam Brownback of Kansas, who spoke to the full council at its previous meeting, in October in Grand Rapids, Mich. Although each of the three had supporters, many conservatives expressed concerns about whether any of the candidates could unify their movement and raise enough money to overtake the frontrunners, several participants in the meetings said.

Finally, in a measure of their dissatisfaction, a delegation of prominent conservatives at Amelia Island attempted to enlist Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina to enter the race. A charismatic politician with a clear conservative record, Mr. Sanford is almost unknown outside his home state and has done nothing to prepare for a presidential run. He firmly declined the group’s entreaties, people involved in the recruiting effort said. A spokesman for Mr. Sanford said he would not comment on the matter.

“There is great anxiety,” said Paul Weyrich, chairman of the Free Congress Foundation and an elder statesman of the conservative movement. “There is no outstanding conservative, and they are all looking for that.”

Mr. Weyrich, a longtime member of the council, declined to discuss the group or its meetings. The council’s bylaws forbid members from publicly disclosing its membership or activities, and participants agreed to discuss the Amelia Island meeting only on condition of anonymity.

For eight years and four elections, President Bush forged a singular alliance with Christian conservatives — including dispatching administration officials and even cabinet members to address to secret meetings of the council — that put them at the center of the Republican Party.

But in the aftermath of the stinging defeats in the 2006 midterms, and with discontent over the Iraq war weighing heavily on both the public, some Christian conservatives worry that they may find themselves on the sidelines of the presidential race.

The conservative concern may also be an ominous sign for the Republican Party about the morale of a core element of their political base. Conservatives warn that the 2008 election could shape up like 1996, when conservatives faced a lesser-of-two evils choice between a Republican they distrusted, former Senator Bob Dole, and a Democrat they disdained, President Bill Clinton. Dr. Dobson of Focus on the Family later said in a speech to the Council for National Policy that he voted for a conservative third party that year rather than pull a lever for Mr. Dole.

The Council for National Policy was founded 25 years ago by the Rev. Tim LaHaye as a forum for conservative Christians to strategize about how to turn the country to the right. The secrecy was intended to insulate the group from what its members considered the liberal bias of the news media. Mr. Weyrich said in an interview that he saw conservatives gravitating toward Mr. Huckabee. Several others said most conservative leaders remained uncommitted, . In addition to doubts about their ability to generate enough money and momentum, each candidate also faces initial skepticism from one faction or another other of the right, on issues like immigration, trade, taxes and foreign affairs.

“Right now there is still a vacuum among conservative Republicans,” said Gary Bauer, a Christian conservative who was a Republican primary candidate in 2000. Conservatives, he said, “want a more provable conservative who also is demonstrating that they can put together the resources necessary to prevail.” He declined to comment on the Amelia Island meeting.

A spokesman for Mr. Brownback said he would not comment on the senator’s presentation to the council, citing its rules about strict confidentiality. Several others who attended his speech said he received heavy applause for his emphasis on restricting abortion and amending the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. But others objected to his support for a temporary worker program for immigrants, and several faulted Mr. Brownback for touching only briefly on the threat of Islamic terrorists, an increasingly central focus of the council and many social conservative groups since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. (People who attended the Amelia Island event said Rick Santorum, the former senator from Pennsylvania, delivered a well-received address to the counsel about what he called the gathering threat of radical Islam.)

In an interview, Mr. Hunter, the ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee and a supporter of Mr. Bush’s plan to send more troops to Iraq, said the need for a strong national defense was the centerpiece of his speech. That defense, he argued, should include cracking down on illegal immigration, building a wall along the Mexican border, and renegotiating foreign trade deals to protect American manufacturing. “We are losing the arsenal of the democracy,” he said in the interview.

Although his views struck a chord with the many opponents of illegal immigration present at the meeting, several people present said, his stance on trade alienates the business wing of the Republican Party, compounding his substantial fund-raising challenges.

Mr. Huckabee, a Southern Baptist minister who was the head of his state Baptist convention before becoming governor of Arkansas, has the advantage of strong personal connections to many counsel members. Many prominent evangelical Christians consider him a friend, and he has appeared several times as a guest on Dr. Dobson’s popular Christian radio program.

In an interview, Mr. Huckabee said he believed his roots in the evangelical world helped set him apart from his rivals. “I am not going to them. I am coming from them,” he said. He said he did not remember speaking about his opposition to abortion or same-sex marriage, “although I am sure that I must have.” He said he emphasized education, among other issues, and talked about an ongoing war “with a radical form of Islamic fascism” which he called “a bastardization of religion.”

But many conservatives, including several participants in the Amelia Island meeting, said Mr. Huckabee faced resistance from the limited-government, antitax wing of their movement. Some antitax activists fault Mr. Huckabee for allowing certain tax increases while he was governor of Arkansas, most notably one that was the subject of a public referendum.

In the interview, though, Mr. Huckabee said he was now leaning toward signing a pledge not to raise income taxes, that is presented to all the candidates by Mr. Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform.

Mr. Norquist, a member of the Council for National Policy, said he remained open to any of the three candidates who spoke to the group or, for that matter, to Mr. Romney. He argued that with the right promises, any of the four could redeem themselves in the eyes of the conservative movement despite their past records, just as some high school students take abstinence pledges even after having had sex.

“It’s called secondary virginity,” he said. “It is a big movement in high school and also available for politicians.”

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al001 - February 24, 2007 08:30 PM (GMT)
Based on earlier membership lists disclosed by CNP and some speculation on an updated list, membership likely includes the following prominent individuals:[2][3][4][5][6]

In October, 1999 George W. Bush addressed the CNP. His campaign refused to release the full text of his remarks

This list is limited due to the secrecy involved but Karl Rove has been seen at many of the functions. Membership is by invitation only and attendance at the meetings is also by invitation only. Past Presidents of the CNP include Howard Bunker Hunt of Texas, Richard DeVos, founder of Amway and Pat Robertson. Due to the level of secrecy a more current listing is not available.

Their openly expressed intent stated in the late 80's was to educate the young to be lawyers and assume the highest roles in Government. Their Tax exempt status has been revoked.

Howard Ahmanson, Jr.
Dick Armey
John Ashcroft
Ted Baehr
David Barton
Gary Bauer
Joel Belz
Ken Blackwell
Morton Blackwell
Richard Bott
Brent Bozell
Bill Bright (deceased)
Ward Connerly
Kenneth Connor
Holland Coors
Jerome Corsi
Kenneth Cribb
Tom DeLay
Rich DeVos
James Dobson
Stuart Epperson
Jerry Falwell
Joseph Farah
Michael Farris
Raymond Flynn
Steve Forbes
Foster Friess
Ed Fuelner
Frank Gaffney
George Gilder
Robert Grant
C. Boyden Gray
Donald Hodel
Nelson Bunker Hunt
Eric M. Jackson
Gary Jarmin
Louis E. "Woody" Jenkins
David Keene
D. James Kennedy
Alan Keyes
Jon Kyl
Richard Land
Tim and Beverly LaHaye
Wayne LaPierre
Trent Lott
Ed Meese
Don Nickles
Grover Norquist
Oliver North
Marvin Olasky
William Owens
Star Parker
Paige Patterson
Tony Perkins
Paul Pressler
Dan Richey
Pat Robertson
Christopher W. Ruddy
Richard Mellon Scaife
Phyllis Schlafly
Alan Sears
Jay Sekulow
John Shadegg
Lou Sheldon
John Singlaub
Mark Souder
Mike Spence
Kenneth Starr
Mathew Staver
John Templeton
Tommy Thompson
Richard Viguerie
Paul Weyrich
Jack Wheeler
Donald Wildmon

Wayne in WA State - February 25, 2007 07:40 AM (GMT)
Greetings al001!

Well, I am just beside myself with sympathy that this secretive clan of neo-fascist theocrats is having a difficult time finding the right candidate for 2008. :(

NOT :D

al001 - February 25, 2007 07:58 PM (GMT)
Hi Wayne,

I think it's great too. Maybe they'll give Falwell a try. Now that would be over quick.

By the way did you notice Kenneth Starr's name on the list of last known members. Could be the reason he kept an investigation going ten years over oral sex. What an ass.

The Goracle - March 21, 2007 08:00 AM (GMT)
The more I read about the Christian right, the less I like them. I actually come from a religious, conservative family (my father is a minister) but I don't believe in God. However, I respect the religious views of others as long as they don't preach intolerance, war-mongering or hatred. But these Christian groups that influence Republican policy are corrupt and shady. I wouldn't trust anything they have to say.

It pleases me greatly to know that there isn't a strong Republican candidate for these nuts to rally behind this time.

janetn - April 12, 2007 05:28 AM (GMT)
Everyone who claims to be a Christian is not. The term "christian" has been hijacked for political purposes. Jesus doesnt know the vast majority [if any ] of those named in that list. I may claim to be a duck, I may even choose ot dress like a duck I may act somewhat like a duck, but as much as I claim to be a duck I am not a duck. The fact that those people formed a group with the express purpose of influancing politics is telling. Jesus lived in an occupied country, yet he was apoliticial. Never did he instruct his followers to join with or become the power brokers of the time. He also called the religous leaders of the day snakes blind guides and hypocrites. Not much has changed in 2000 years apparently. I doubt that Jesus is thrilled with the so called christian right either.

BTW Im from DeVos's hometown, Amway is pretty much a cult that robs people of their hard earned money, it skirts the laws against pyramid schemes. DeVos ran for Govenor of the state in the last election, he got his butt kicked :D People in this state know way too much about him. Any group that he is involved in is scary

Wayne in WA State - April 12, 2007 06:00 AM (GMT)
Welcome janetn :D

It is good to read your comments. It's always great to hear from Al Gore supporters.

As you say, these people can call themselves whatever they like, but I don't see much evidence they are following the teachings of Jesus..

janetn - April 12, 2007 08:20 AM (GMT)
Wayne thank you for the welcome. I hope the folks around here learn that not all christians are neocons, nor do they support the adjenda of the Republician party. The people in the above list are responsible for conciving and executing one of the most diabolical political plans ever. Frankly if GW Bush is a christian pink pigs fly.

Most bible believing christians have more in common with the social adjenda of the Democratic Party rather than the Republican, they have been brainwashed to believe otherwise by the above group [and others]

Al Gore will need to cut through the crap they have been carefully spoon fed, and reach out these christians. For one thing they have been led to believe that the Democratic Party does not welcome them anymore.

As hard as it is for some to believe most christians are not foaming rabid Bush supporters. They are kind well meaning citizens, who are just sickened by where this country has ended up under the present adminastration. Anyone at my church who has seen Als movies is very impressed with him. A wealth of support is Im afraid going untapped.




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