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Title: The Man Who Could Stop Hillary . . . Al Gore?


earthmother - May 15, 2006 09:50 PM (GMT)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,195440,00.html

The Man Who Could Stop Hillary....Al Gore?

Sunday , May 14, 2006

By Susan Estrich

LOS ANGELES — There is a new name on Democrats’ lips. Or rather, an old one. He is the one man who could stop Hillary Clinton.

If. If he runs. If the stars are right. But he could.

He is, of course, Al Gore.

He is already polling. No one hates her more. Just kidding, of course. But no love lost. Remember, he could’ve won in 2000 if he’d let Clinton help, and it was almost clear at the time. But he wouldn’t.

Consider the alternatives. Mark Warner, who was the flavor of the month until the New York Times gave him its worst kiss, is trying to challenge Hillary from the center-right. But the skew in Democratic nomination politics is from the left, not the right.

Who goes out to vote in a Democratic caucus or primary? The same kinds of people who go out to vote in Republican caucuses and primaries. Activists.

Democratic activists tend to be left wing, Republicans right-wing. Centrists who run for president as Democrats get no votes; think Lieberman, Bruce Babbitt, Lloyd Bentsen, for example. They often, however, get great press.

John Kerry is going nowhere. His money people are heading for the Hills, or Hillary. John Edwards has one note, and voted the same way as Hillary on the war. Warner is wed to the middle. Were it not for Gore, if Gore goes away, Hillary looks to cruise.

But Gore could change that.

So what if he went to Saudi Arabia and criticized America? That’s for Rush and Bill to worry about next fall.

Swift Boats. Gore deprives Hillary of administration bragging rights. He’s got the same ones, without the baggage. And then he’s got the right position on the war, and the superstar record on the environment to boot.

Add to that some liberal Hollywood money, and he gives her a run for hers.

The problem is: then what? No one fits Hugh Hewitt’s stereotype of the losing angry Democrat better than Al Gore. The place to win elections in this country is not the left but the middle. You want to lose for sure, run to Hillary’s left.

Beware Confident Democrats

Watch out fellow Democrats. You’re starting to sound like winners. This is when we get in trouble. Don’t count the Republicans out. It’s a long way to November.

Remember what the Republicans have going for them.

ONE: The White House. I know, the president’s poll numbers are low. But he still controls the power of the presidency. That means that any Congressman who is in trouble can deliver goodies at the last minute to his district from any department or agency in the government.

I’ll never forget Anne Wexler’s famous comment from the painful days of the Carter-Kennedy battle: "Is this an election or an auction?"

All politics is local? You may not want to be seen with the president, but everybody wants to be seen delivering the pork chops, excuse me, the goodies. And goodies there will be, between now and Election Day, for every Republican who is in trouble.

TWO: Money. I know, Democrats are raising it too. But corporate America has every interest in seeing Republicans maintain their control of Congress. Who is for a higher minimum wage? Who is against it? Do you have to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out?

Do you know that it was Democrats who insisted on preserving PACs in the first campaign finance bill because they thought labor would be able to trump corporate America? Fools R us. Within a year, corporate PACs outnumbered labor PACs by 10-1. And that was just the beginning.

How hard will the business community fight? Read my lips. Hard.

THREE: Organization. They have lists. We don’t. They have infrastructure. We don’t. In this game, they’re at home plate, having already rounded the bases, we’re almost at first base. They know what issues individual voters care about, how to appeal to them, what makes swing voters swing, who they are and how to get them out at the last minute.

You know how Amazon sends you those emails saying that if you liked one book, you’ll probably like two more. Republicans can do the same thing. Democrats can’t.

Harold Ickes, Hillary’s consigliere, has formed an organization outside the party, to try to catch up; the fact that it is outside the party tells you more than you want to know about what the party is doing, see below.

FOUR: Coordination and Focus. According to published reports, it wasn’t pretty at last week’s meeting between Congressional Campaign Chiefs Rahm Emmanuel and Chuck Schumer and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean. Why would it be? They don’t share the same vision.

Dean is embarked on a 50-state party building program which, if nothing else, ensures him the support of the party pooh-bahs in the 50 states who love him. Problem is, if you’re trying to win Congress back, or win the next presidential election, for that matter, you need to focus on states where you can win, which doesn’t include all 50; you need to focus, and you need to be coordinated, which the Democrats aren’t.

So for all intents and purposes, the DNC is out of the game of trying to win elections any time in the near term, but Howard Dean is safe in his job.

FIVE: The Advantages of Triangulation? I’m not sure I buy this one, but I actually know one Republican (a friend of a friend) who is working for a Democratic Congress as the surest way to stop Hillary in ’08. He figures that if the Democrats win Congress, the voters will be determined to provide balance in ’08 by electing a Republican President. Now that’s what I call a Dick Morris stretch...


earthmother - May 15, 2006 09:51 PM (GMT)
Well, it's Fox news. What do you expect.

Interestingly, though, the writer of this piece was campaign manager for Michael Dukakis.

Nicholus Odem - May 15, 2006 10:10 PM (GMT)
EM, this is very interesting. Susan is a bona fide "friend of Hill". I saw her talking a Hillary candidacy up big time not too long ago at some independent bookstore on Booknotes on the SPAN.

The fact that Al is now seen as THE alternative to many people is a definite plus but is also wrought with negative externalities. World and national events could overtake his current re-emergence. We pray they don't.

As far as Susan is concerned, she is a very smart woman whose counsel principles seek. A wise woman of the party. People always talk about her campaign management of Dukakis unfairly. I think the candidate was to blame in the final analysis. His pragmatic message did not ring right at the time. Since that campaign, she has made some good pronouncements when I have heard them.

Only thing is that she had to do this one on FOX. I know that she is a FOX contributor, their weak attempt at the fair and balanced deception. I think though that the Hillary people (Carville and Begala et al) know that there will be a serious challenge to her coronation. Right now, Al represents that possible challenge. It gets serious when folks such as Susan begin to train their guns at Al. I just think they are waiting for the movie buzz to subside and for December, when the folks with Potomac fever will be eating bland pancakes and cold bacon in union halls in Des Moines. Hope Al will be there. I'll bring the Log Cabin.

earthmother - May 15, 2006 10:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nicholus Odem @ May 15 2006, 10:10 PM)
when the folks with Potomac fever will be eating bland pancakes and cold bacon in union halls in Des Moines. Hope Al will be there. I'll bring the Log Cabin.

I like how you write. :lol:

Nicholus Odem - May 15, 2006 10:36 PM (GMT)
A hearty GRACIAS from the senoran desert! :lol:

farooq1 - June 5, 2006 05:25 AM (GMT)
Nice Stuff!!!
I do agree with you.

Guest - June 21, 2006 08:39 PM (GMT)
It was 1987!

At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt. Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator;

"Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience

"Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued.

"Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.







"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.






By the way, that senator was Al Gore!









Also:
Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986.

The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him.

As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands, The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released.



Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.

Uncle Joe - June 21, 2006 09:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
It was 1987!

At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt. Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator;

"Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience

"Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued.

"Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.







"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.






By the way, that senator was Al Gore!



You should get your facts straight guest. To begin with Al Gore did not sit on the committee interrogating Oliver North. Also Oliver North did not mention Osama Bin Laden, he was talking about an entirely different terrorist at the time, I believe his name was Abu Nidal. This is just more lies put out by the Reich Wing because they would not know the truth if it bit them on the ass.




earthmother - June 21, 2006 09:31 PM (GMT)
Correct, Uncle Joe. I just dealt with the same piece of trash from this unregistered guest in another thread.

I have turned off guest-posting in all forums to keep this from happening again.

Thanks for your vigilance! :good:




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