Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Senator John Kerry (D-MA)
Governor Mark Warner (D-VA)
Senator John Edwards (D-NC)
and maybe VP Al Gore (D-TN)

Like Kerry, it is tough for me to see Gore not wanting to run in 08. I mean c'mon, look how close both men were to taking the highest job in the country. Presidential ambitions don't go away, especially when they were that close.

I agree that presidential ambitions don't go away, but I also think it's possible that, because of the special circumstances surrounding Gore's "loss," he might have had to get himself to a place where he truly accepted that he wouldn't run again.

All kinds of people that I've talked to who didn't vote for Gore in 2000 said they would vote for him if he ran again.

Add Joe Biden to the list too since he's running in '08 and with the exception of gore,the other candidates that are on the list are DLC'ers and some people on several boards i've went to said they're tired and refuse to support anyone who are in the weak kneed democrat corporate category and will vote 3rd party because they want someone who's strong,bold and a fighter to take on the republicans,the rove spin machine and a fair election.

I like all of the above... especially Bayh. That mans record is phenominal and he has an approval rating of between 70-80%. We need to find a candidate that can appeal to just about everyone... so we can win in more states than a handful.

One other thing to remember when people criticize the DLC... Clinton was the leader of the DLC Democrats before he was elected President.

I sure hope that "maybe VP Al Gore" turns into definitely VP AL GORE. Just not too enthused about the others, maybe one of them for AL'S VP.

I like Senator Bayh and Governor Warner. They both have great records and seem to be great men. My views on the issues are pretty close to theirs too. But, it is way important for us to choose someone that is strong... because you know that the GOP is going to pick someone good. Plus, their new candidate is going to be just that... new. He won't have a crappy record to steer away from like Dubya did.

Al Gore got the most votes in 2000 both nationally and in the electoral college. Kerry didn't get the most votes like Al Gore did. For the record, Bush the thief has totally destroyed the federal budget with his tax cuts for the wealthy just like Al Gore warned he would in 2000. Sorry but Bayh and Warner are shills for the don't fight back DLC whose don't fight back strategy has been a disaster for our country.

Bayh would get crushed running for President. The Right Wing Spin would eat him alive because Bayh wouldn't know how to fight back.

I would have trouble supporting Bayh. His support for the war is a major turnoff.

Its Hillary and Gore and no one else.

They may run, but none of the others stand a chance at all.

Hillary practically will have it clinched the day she announces, and she can wait the longest to announce.
I think Kerry is doing a dance to deflect her and all the others are running for VP.

Biden is a joke, he has baggage with the copywrite threat.
Bayh practically made love to John Roberts on stage kissing his rear.

Feingold is a great guy, but he is not Paul Wellstone.

And if Gore wants it, he needs to enter soon. Otherwise, everyone else here can ignore Hillary, but why i don't know.

And the outsider is Barack Obama, but I think he will be the Veep choice, unless Al needs to have Hillary be his.(meaning they strike a deal.) Although why she would do that I have no idea, when she could win on her own.

I beg the differ. Why exactly do you think he wouldn't fight? You probably don't know a thing about him.

By the way, Bayh has a ton of support from everyone. Look at the following remarks by Republicans or family members of Republicans:

"And even my DEVOUT REPUBLICAN BROTHER saying he would vote for a democrat only if it were Senator Evan Bayh from Indiana...."

and...

"The Indianapolis Star did a survey not too long ago, and about 70% of indiana residents said they would vote for Senator Bayh is he ran."

and...

"Hey I am from Indiana and alot of us Republican Hoosiers like Bayh. His dad was a good politican too.

He is the ONLY Democrat we fear."


Not to mention what Bill Clinton had to say about him:

"I hope and expect some day I'll be voting for Evan Bayh for President of the United States."

I know a fair deal about Evan Bayh... I know he thinks (or atleast says) Saddam has a connection to al Queda anyway.

Why do I think he would lose? He's a lightweight. Just because he could deliver Indiana's 11 electoral votes does not mean he could win. No matter who the democrats run, the repugs will attack them relentlessly. If the republicans were able to make an American war hero like John Kerry look like a wuss, they wouldn't have any trouble painting Bayh as an "evil, big spendin' lib'rul."

Alot of Democrats voted to go to war in Iraq... Bayh wasn't the lone ranger.

You missed my point about Indiana. If Bayh could deliver Super RED Indiana, then he would most likely deliver states that fall into the South and all over the country. I know this is a Gore support group and all, but Gore didn't win the South... he didn't even win TN. Bayh is a very smart man with an incredible record of accomplishments and he shouldn't be discredited because of ones support for another candidate.... look beyond just one.

Yeah, they would have trouble painting Bayh as a "Evil, big spendin' lib'rul" because he isn't one. Look at his record as Governor:

"Before his election to the Senate, Bayh served two terms as Governor of Indiana, where he established the state as one of the strongest, most financially secure economies in the nation. "Mr. Bayh’s record," reported the Wall Street Journal in 1992, "is one of a genuinely fiscally conservative Democrat." Stressing fiscal responsibility, lower taxes, job creation and lean government, Bayh’s list of achievements are remarkable: eight years without raising taxes; the greatest single tax cut and largest budget surplus in state history; national leadership in moving people from welfare to work; more dollars for schools every year; high academic standards and new college opportunities; over 350,000 new jobs; tougher laws on crime; and improved environmental quality."

Not to mention:

Bayh is a leader of the New Democrat movement. At a time when partisanship is threatening progress on the nation’s most pressing issues, Bayh is spearheading the creation of the Third Way, an organization designed to build consensus around legislation that would otherwise remain bogged down in political turf wars. Bayh also served for more than four years as Chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), a national group that offers support for Democratic elected officials and community leaders with a progressive approach on issues. He helped establish the New Democrat Coalition, a new and growing group of senators who are committed to sensible bipartisan progress. Bayh also serves on the Board of Directors of the National Endowment for Democracy, a non-partisan group that works to promote and strengthen democratic institutions worldwide.

And...

He has had plenty of experience with elections... ranging from his dads against Jimmy Carter, his as Indiana's SOS, his as Governor, and his as a Sentor. Plently of experience.

IN's Secretary of State- 1986-1989
IN's Governor- 1989- 1997
IN's Senator- 1998- Present

That is your opinion which you're perfectly entitled to, but it is not fact. Please stop proclaiming your personal opinion as if it writting in stone fact.

And what Blue states would Evan Bayh win?
He might win Indana and lose every other state to Rudy or McCain

Same with Warner. The repubs with Rudy would beat Warner in every major big blue state. Warner might win some southern ones.

And Condie would kick them all.

James- you think hillary is not running. I think she is. you don't know anymore than me, but there is a greater chance of Hillary running than Al running. There is nothing whatsoever to officially indicate Al is running.
He has repeatedly said he is a recovering politician. He just started a tv station that he would have to bail out of, if he runs (otherwise it is a conflict)...and we are all hoping Al would run.

But the odds are not that high.

Hillary is not denying she is running. She says she is running for Senator and saying that comes first. Bill said, just this morning, that Hillary does not have to make a promise this year, as Bush didn't when he was running for his second term.

So like everything three years ahead of time, it goes without saying we are all talking about what we think. Nobody knows for sure.

We just hope.

But it sure don't look like anybody else but the two will win, assuming things stay the way they are and people are healthy.

You can never tell, but a big superstar is needed in 2008. Not a nobody. And you either believe the polls or you don't. The polls showed Al won in 2000. don't you believe those?

No As I've stated earlier, I don't know if she is or she isn't. I see scant evidence to show that she is planning to run. Everything seems to be just pundit spin.
And both her and Gore have issued non-denial denials '08. Neither has said conclusively that they are running or not running.
Anything else is just opinion and speculation at this point, not fact. Stop proclaiming your personal opinion as if it were solid fact because it's not.

James- the name of this thread is "A few people who I THINK are going to run"

It is speculation. That is the title of the thread. It is not called A few people who I know are going to run.

So it is a given that anything anyone is talking about is opinions. Does the board needed to loaded up on each thread with IMHO?
Everything is opinion, by me, you and anyone.

Unless someone here knows something 100 percent guaranteed, ...and I don't see you asking everyone else to write IMHO on each post.

I am just calling it as I see it. And hear it. And its not right wing spin either.
It's in day to day dealings with other democrats, liberals, New Yorkers, people who actually are just voters, shooting the breeze with them, talking politics.

And there is no one I have talked to, no one that doesn't think she is running.
And there are many I talk to that don't know what to make of her running.

And there are many I talk to, when I mention Al Gore, or they see my button,
they smile fondly.
But unlike Hillary, they follow up question it with "But is he running? I thought he
was not running". But then they quickly say, "But if he does run, aahhh, that would be great, I would vote for him instantly if he would run. I always like Al Gore".....things like that.

So that is one of the reasons IMHO IMHO I think Al Gore would need to announce alot earlier and Hillary can be the last to announce officially.

The so called new democrats are nothing but closet republicans who don't fight back. These are the people who hid in their ivory towers and abandoned Al Gore in 2000 and allowed Bush to steal the 2000 election. These are the same people who have since allowed Bush to wreek his havoc on our country and done absolutely nothing to stop him. Kerry's 2004 campaign was a don't fight back disaster. The so called new democrats are just like the non nazis in the German parliment in the early 1930's who did nothing to stop Hitler when they had a chance to do so.

Feingold is a great guy, but he is not Paul Wellstone

Probably the truest (and yet saddest) thing I have read on the board. Just imagine a populist team of Gore and Wellstone running. The things that could have been...

Gore/Dean is what I'm hoping lately.

Let's just hope AL GORE is running in 2008 before we worry about his VP.

Your post is so true- but why won't Al run? He should have in 04 and he certainly should in 08.
If he doesn't WHY NOT?

The people themselves want him. Who cares if the party doesn't?
So why is it not a sure thing at all?It should be 100 percent certain, don't you think?

I didn't understand last time, if you remember I said back in the deadlines for Iowa and NH-
all he had to do was grass roots, tell one person in Nashville (at the Pancake pantry on a Saturday morning), and have them say Al just said he was running
and so on and so on...

That is what the public wanted in 04 and the public needs to re-fight 2000 again.

Only Al could do it.

It is so obvious, but ...Does it make sense?

The money would come later. The votes would be gotten. If the rest of the party didn't back him, but he won the primaries who gives a spit about the party (besides, this time Dean would be on his side).
So he just has to do it? Right?

The ugly truth is that the don't fight back democratic party leadership who abandoned Al Gore in 2000 and allowed Bush to steal the election and the people with the big campaign money would't support Al Gore in 2004 because they didn't want anyone running who would fight back against Bush the thief. Well they got their wish with Kerry the wimp and it was a disaster that has severly discredited the democratic party leadership which helped the grass roots elect Howard Dean as the new chair of the DNC. What happens from hear, I don't know.

ReelectAlGore2008, we all share your frustration in wondering why. WHY? But obviously none of us is a political insider, so none of us really knows the real reason why Gore didn't run in '04, and may not in '08. But I think that, regardless of public support, any candidate running on a major party ticket has to have the support--both financial and moral--of the party. Gore didn't appear to have that in '04, at least from all we can tell. I think it's possible that that's turned around now. I think maybe they realize what a mistake they made by closing him out, and I think there's been renewed respect and support for him, in the last few months especially. I'd love to know what all the internal struggles are between the Clintons and Dean and all the rest of them. Who knows--maybe they're all on the same page? But if they're not, I'd love to know where Gore fits into the whole scenario. From outside, he appears to be just doing his thing for now--Apple, Google, Current, global-warming expert. But he's continuing to make his political views known and to sharply criticize Bush and the administration, and one can only hope that he will someday become more than just our unofficial voice, but the one who speaks for all of us frustrated souls . . . from the Oval Office itself.

Gore 2008 Commentary

Just found this. Hopefully, you all can get past the registration requirements. It is interesting and heartening reading.