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bluebutterfly - July 1, 2004 08:18 PM (GMT)
What do you think?*

JamesAquila - July 1, 2004 09:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (bluebutterfly @ Jul 1 2004, 04:18 PM)
What do you think?*

Well if Kerry loses we should start the "Gore in '08" campaign on November 3rd. If Kerry wins we should push for Gore to be appointed to the first vacancy on the Supreme Court. I would also like us to start making a push that Gore be afforded all the rights and priviliges as an ex-President. All of these endevors will take years but I'm up for it.

earthmother - July 2, 2004 11:11 PM (GMT)
I'm beginning to think he's done with running for president, regardless of what happens in November. :(

Having said that, however, I'll be first in line to try to get him to run in 2008 if he doesn't do it voluntarily. But this time, if he says no, he's not running, I'm going to take him at his word!

GSC Admin - July 2, 2004 11:52 PM (GMT)
I can tell you one thing, if Kerry loses this year, god forbid, this will be turned into a Gore '08 site immediatly.

ErinB - July 3, 2004 12:46 AM (GMT)
'08 is such a very long time away.
If a democrat doesn't get in the White House this time, our Constitution will be seriously compromised, we will be a more militarized nation, and live in a near police state. God help us.

LeftistIndependent - July 3, 2004 04:47 PM (GMT)
I also have the feeling Gore is done with pursuing any type of public office. If he really wanted to run again, he would have done so this year. Anyone know the story on why he didn't run again?

He seems to be more content being a voice outside the political system. That is all well and fine, but with his understanding of the constitution, democracy,foreign policy, the environment etc. I rather see him be in a position to have some influence rather then a spokesmen of sorts. :huh:

earthmother - July 3, 2004 07:09 PM (GMT)
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with his understanding of the constitution, democracy,foreign policy, the environment etc. I rather see him be in a position to have some influence rather then a spokesmen of sorts.


You said it, LI. That's why he'd have made such a fine president! :(

FreeBird - August 16, 2004 10:04 PM (GMT)
:) Personally I FEEL lot's of warmth, love and thanks for what Al Gore did for AMERICA thru the 8 years of the Clinton/Gore Administration! In reality HE WON in 2000! It was taken away from HIM and US by "thieves in the nite"! I doubt whether I would even want to see AL GORE put thru any more HUMILIATION! He's a FAR BETTER PERSON than that!



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Gore2008 - August 18, 2004 07:00 PM (GMT)
I agree with GCS administrator and James Aquilla. What happene i 2000 is about much more than any candidates and political parties. It's about our form of government and it's up to we the people to make it right. If Kerry losses with his sweep the stolen 2000 election under the rug republican impersonation strategy, then Al Gore will be able to say "I told you so" and he'll be in a very strong position. I want to be the first one to sigh up for Gore 2008 on November 3rd.

Patriot For Gore - August 18, 2004 07:58 PM (GMT)
Why does Kerry have to "lose" before we would support Al Gore for President in 2008? I don't care if Kerry wins or loses, I will still support Al Gore for a 2008 run. Kerry's winning or losing doesn't change how I feel about who I believe can best lead this nation. I know, I know, if Kerry wins (whatever that really means anymore) he will run for re-election. So what? Is this not America? I don't even know what Mr. Gore has planned for the future, but I do know how I feel about him as a leader, and there is nothing that will stop me from supporting him for President again in 2008 whether Kerry wins or loses (provided we still have a constitution by then), short of him telling us not to do so. He has never told any group, not even our PAC to not go ahead with our support for him, so I have no intention in changing my views concerning his abilities and vision regardless of how this election turns out.
Jan

Gore2008 - August 20, 2004 03:21 PM (GMT)
I think Al Gore is letting Kerry and the repug impersonating, don't fight back DLC wing of the dem party hang themselves with their disasterous campaign strategy. This will put him in the very strong position of being able to say, "I told you so" as Kerry and the DLC will get the blame for their disasterous strategy. It's a tragedy for our country that we have to go through this but when the opposition party refuses to fight back there's not much else that can be done about it right now.

Patriot For Gore - August 20, 2004 03:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Gore2008 @ Aug 20 2004, 11:21 AM)
I think Al Gore is letting Kerry and the repug impersonating, don't fight back DLC wing of the dem party hang themselves with their disasterous campaign strategy. This will put him in the very strong position of being able to say, "I told you so" as Kerry and the DLC will get the blame for their disasterous strategy. It's a tragedy for our country that we have to go through this but when the opposition party refuses to fight back there's not much else that can be done about it right now.

On the one hand Gore2008, I can see your point... However, when I look at it from the standpoint of putting this country first, I don't think it is right for anyone to simply be playing games in allowing these Bush bootlickers on any side to "hang themselves" just to prove you were right. Al Gore has already been vindicated from the events of the last four years. It is now time to FIGHT TO GET BUSH ALL THE WAY OUT. If Bush pulls this out, (which I believe he will, though I truly hope I am wrong,) this country will face the absolute worst period of its history. They are only getting started... The boom hasn't been dropped yet, but if we give them that chance, it will be... I have to believe Al Gore , no, change that, I KNOW Al Gore knows this as well, so to say he is really "allowing" this to happen just to get revenge on the Democratic leadership to me is wrong. To be honest, I don't know what to believe anymore, and as much as I love and respect this man and his vision, I am angry that he didn't stand up to run again. If he wanted to let the party hang themselves, then by God give them a fight! You know as well as I do, that millions would have stood right beside him in that fight. That is a fight I would have loved to have been a part of, and I truly am sad to think that fight may now never happen because the window of opportunity is now closed. Am I wrong?

Jan

Gore2008 - August 20, 2004 03:50 PM (GMT)
I don't think Al Gore is allowing anything for revenge. I think he's being realistic and pragmatic. I also think this is the only way to be able to have the ammunition to point to to show what a disasterous course Kerry and the DLC were so determined to pursue really was. Once they fall flat on their faces which I also believe they will, then things will change. I don't think there's anything else that Al Gore can do right now other than start a civil war and that's not an option. I also think that Al Gore is genuinely concerned about what's happening as well but the reality is that the DLC don't fight back crowd tha's hijacked the democratic party is going to have to fall flat on their faces before they'll be discreditied enough for a change to be made. I also think that the next 4 years will be a disaster beyond anything our country has ever seen but I sadly think that it's going to take that kind of a disaster to wake people up and bring the change that's so desperately needed.

FreeBird - August 20, 2004 04:09 PM (GMT)
I must "humbly" dis-agree" Gore2008.

***THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.......OK?***

John Kerry has MORE SUPPORT from fellow DEMOCRATS then ever before!

A "WIN" FOR JOHN KERRY ..........IS A "WIN" FOR Al Gore, America, Anti-Bush Citizens, and ALL BELIEVERS OF AMERICA'S TRUE DOCTRINE as stated in the "BILL OF RIGHTS" and the "AMERICAN CONSTITUTION"!

I HAVE TO WONDER IF YOU JUST DON'T LIKE...........John Kerry?

Maybe you like George Bush more? That's COOL.......OK?


WE DEMOCRATS NEED TO GET OUR priorties STRAIGHT!!!! :read:


THIS election is about ...........LIVES, FREEDOM, AND LIBERTY!



Just a thought.........................Andrew Pauluser posted image


Post Script: AND, BY THE WAY? APPARENTLLY..........IF YOU CAN NOT IMAGINE HOW WORSE OFF AMERICA WILL BE IF "GEORGE W. BUSH" WINS ANOTHER 4 YEARS :?: :?: :?:

Hmmmm :?: I "KNOW" I am NOT better off NOW then I was 4 YEARS AGO :blink: Are YOU :?:

Just wondering?


FreeBird - August 20, 2004 04:19 PM (GMT)
And FURTHERMORE!



WHY :?: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW :rolleyes:



WOULD AMERICANS WANT TO "RE-ELECT" THE OFFICIALLY RECORDED WORST PRESIDENT***(to date)*** THAT THE "United States of America" HAS EVER HAD :?: :bad: :bad: :bad:

WOULD YOU RATHER SEE "RALPH NADER" :bad:

GEEZ OH WEEZ :bad: :bad: :bad:

PLEASE................I await ALL ANSWERS :)


Have a nice day :) .......................Andrew Pauluser posted image

Patriot For Gore - August 20, 2004 04:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (FreeBird @ Aug 20 2004, 12:09 PM)
I must "humbly" dis-agree" Gore2008.

John Kerry has MORE SUPPORT from fellow DEMOCRATS then ever before!

A "WIN" FOR JOHN KERRY ..........IS A "WIN" FOR Al Gore, America, Anti-Bush Citizens, and ALL BELIEVERS OF AMERICA'S TRUE DOCTRINE as stated in the "BILL OF RIGHTS" and the "AMERICAN CONSTITUTION"!

I THINK you just DON'T LIKE ...........John Kerry?

Maybe you like George Bush more?


Get your priorties STRAIGHT!!!! :read:



Just a thought.........................Andrew Pauluser posted image


Post Script: Oh and BY THE WAY? APPARENTLLY..........YOU CAN NOT IMAGINE HOW WORSE OFF AMERICA WILL BE IF "GEORGE W. BUSH" WINS ANOTHER 4 YEARS :?: :?: :?:

Hmmmm :?:

YOU DON'T APPEAR TO HAVE A CLUE (of what is really going on).............UNLESS..........MAYBE..........YOU HAVE PROFITED FROM HIS CRIMES and DECEPTION :) :?: :?: :?:

IS THAT POSSIBLE? :?:



John Kerry doesn't have more support than Al Gore has! ;) I do understand what Gore2008 is talking about, in that for the last four years, the DLC has in reality turned a blind eye to the criminality of this installed administration, and the fact that Bush is still there unscathed is proof of that. Using the excuse that is because they control all branches is also very weak, for the people are the ones who should be hiring those who serve in those branches, and as a result of the vote fraud that also took place in 2002 wtithout our leadership batting an eye, that is no longer true either. You must also realize, Freebird, that there is still much anger over 2000 ( and rightfully so), and frankly, having Kerry on the ballot when many of us know it should be Al Gore does not appease that anger one bit. I am honestly angry at the leadership of the DLC for turning their backs on Al Gore, and essentially turning their backs on all those who were disenfranchised in 2000. What became of this treachery? Harris was elected to the House of Representatives... Jeb Bush was re-elected as Governor of Florida (or not, depending on how many of the machines were rigged)... The suit brought by the civil rights group the NAACP was signed off on "quietly" to avoid any publicity for Harris or Bush so they could "win" their elections...And today as I type, there are still problems in Florida with touchscreen voting machines, felon rolls, and cases that call for receipts of votes to be required on these machines being thrown out of court. Democracy is dying in this country, Freebird, and what Gore2008 and I and many others are trying to say ( if I may speak for them) is that the Democratic leadership which knew full well of these deceits, did not pursue proper justice for this, and that has now allowed it to continue.


BUSH CAN STEAL THIS ELECTION and it won't matter who is on the ballot on the other side... Do you not understand that? Bush has been handed power beyond what ANY President should have, and can even postpone this election if he so desires... he can start another war in his "war on terrah", because he got the green light from Congress... he can call a red alert, he can do just about anything by manipulating the people with fear, and using this war for political advantage. A war he NEVER should have gotten the go ahead to start. It has already started with the orange alert in Northern NJ, NYC, and Washington DC. People cannot even visit THEIR monuments anymore in peace. We are heading towards a Police State, with Democracy just a faint memory if we do not stand up to these people. Can you honestly tell me Kerry and the DLC are REALLY standing up to these people as they should be standing up to them? Kerry will not even call for the full repeal of the Patriot Act. If he has, please show me the quote. He will not even call Bush a DESERTER and that is exactly what the proof shows. Kerry is also only getting "support" because he is the nominee against Bush. I believe most of his support stems from that, not because people really want him. Does that make you feel good about the future?

In 2000, I walked to my polling station with a smile on my face and hope in my heart. I cast my vote for Al Gore and was proud to do so, and happy in the prospect that we would have a President unlike any we have ever had, that would bring us prosperity, vision, and truth... Then all those hopes were dashed and it has been downhill ever since. If you think that now after these last four years in seeing the mediocre response from the Democratic leadership to counter the evil on the other side that ensued will engender anything but sadness, disappointment and anger in me with this vote, forget it. I will do what I must on November 2 to vote against Bush, but I am not happy with the choice, and I will always fight to right that wrong. Al Gore should be our President now, and it should be his name on that ballot again. That has nothing to do with my not liking Kerry, but everything to do with cherishing Democracy.

Jan

FreeBird - August 20, 2004 05:04 PM (GMT)
:clap: Hey Jan :) I AGREE with EVERYTHING you said!*** OK? *** It's NOW time to THINK bout "our future"!

I watched the ELECTIONS in 2000 :angry:
I TOLD my brother that it was a crime and may well be AMERICA'S LAST TRUE ELECTION!

I know all this :huh:

As far as DLC (not fighting back) and Supreme Court, Law Officials , SWAT Teams, Judges(Paid-Off), Backstabbers, and whoever else :?:

Personally? I didn't want to GO TO JAIL(in protest)"""IF""" NO ONE ELSE WAS PREPARED TO?

YOU GOT TO PICK YOUR FIGHTS...........and THE 2004 ELECTION IS A FIGHT WE CAN WIN :clap:
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And..........may I say..........IF GEORGE W. BUSH WINS IN 2004 then "god help america"!
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Just my opinions :Y: ...............Andrew Pauluser posted image

Patriot For Gore - August 20, 2004 08:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (FreeBird @ Aug 20 2004, 01:04 PM)
:clap: Hey Jan :)      I AGREE with EVERYTHING you said!*** OK? ***    It's NOW  time to THINK bout "our future"!

I watched the ELECTIONS in 2000 :angry:
I TOLD my brother that it was a crime and may well be AMERICA'S LAST TRUE ELECTION!

I know all this :huh: 

As far as DLC (not fighting back) and Supreme Court, Law Officials , SWAT Teams, Judges(Paid-Off), Backstabbers, and whoever else :?:   

Personally?    I didn't want to GO TO JAIL(in protest)"""IF""" NO ONE ELSE WAS PREPARED TO?

YOU GOT TO PICK YOUR FIGHTS...........and THE 2004 ELECTION IS A FIGHT WE CAN WIN :clap:
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And..........may I say..........IF GEORGE W. BUSH WINS IN 2004 then "god help america"!
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Just my opinions :Y: ...............Andrew Pauluser posted image

I am thinking about the future, that's why I will still support Al Gore whatever happens in November.

Jan

Gore2008 - August 21, 2004 03:51 PM (GMT)
Freebird, for starters, Bush wasn't elected by the people in 2000. He was instead appointed by 5 republican U.S. Supreme Court judges who were appointed when Bush's father was Vice President or President and who stopped the counting of many thousands of legal votes that Florida election law required be counted. My comments about Kerry are based on the facts. Sorry you can't deal with those facts. Democracy in America will cease to exist until those who stole the 2000 election are brought to justice for their crimes. FYI, the polling of the democratic party base during the primary showed that the party base overwhelmingly supported Al Gore running in 2004 but the party leadership would have none of it. The efforts by the party leadership and Kerry to sweep the theft of our democratic form of government by Bush in 2000 under the rug and pretend that nothing happened in 2000 is beyond shameful and is contrary to the founding of the DNC which took place in the aftermath of John Quincy Adams theft of Andrew Jackson's 1824 victory by deliberately thwarting the will of the people. The party leadership organized the DNC, rallied behind Andrew Jackson and together they beat the crap out of John Quincy Adams in 1828 for stealing the 1824 election. This is what should be happening now. You also need to understand that Nader is nothing but a closet republican and a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush. Nader knew the consequences of his actions in 2000 but he didn't care and it didn't stop him either.

FreeBird - August 21, 2004 04:01 PM (GMT)
So what's your point "Gore2008"? You would RATHER see GEORGE BUSH win another 4 years? What? John Kerry WINNING in 2004 does NOT send a STATEMENT to the REPUBLICANS :read: :?:

Am I in the C O R R E C T "forum board?" YOU KNOW.........I am a DEMOCRAT! And, I am proud of it.........no matter who is running!

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHO WINS in 2004.............. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT GEORGE W. BUSH!!!


Get with the program......................Andrew Pauluser posted image

ErinB - August 21, 2004 05:58 PM (GMT)
Here we go...the Andrew Jackson thing again.



Anyway, I think it is a given here who we ALL really want in the White House right now. But even so we will vote to get that squatter who is there currently out! There aren't any Nader people on this board.


FreeBird - August 21, 2004 06:11 PM (GMT)
Ha Ha :clap: Erin :) Oh well..........Andrew Jackson has my FIRST name so thats cool :lol: Yea, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE what ANDREW JACKSON has to do with GETTING George W. back to TEXAS!

Thanks for the history lesson Gore2008 btw :?: But, it's TIME TO FOCUS on CURRENT EVENTS NOW!

Okie dokie?



Peace and happiness to all.................Andrew Pauluser posted image

JamesAquila - August 21, 2004 08:37 PM (GMT)
There's an old joke, "Mixed emotions is watching your BMW go over a cliff with your mother-in-law in the back seat". I think most of us here can say the same about this election. As much as we want to see Al Gore as President one day, we know that the country can't afford another 4 years of Bush and must do everything to help Kerry to be elected.

FreeBird - August 21, 2004 08:52 PM (GMT)
:clap: Never heard that before........James! :lol: :clap: Thank you!!!!
AND, your "right on target"............America NEEDS a change :good:



Have a good one........................Andrew Pauluser posted image

Patriot For Gore - August 21, 2004 09:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (FreeBird @ Aug 21 2004, 12:01 PM)
So what's your point "Gore2008"?     You would RATHER see GEORGE BUSH win another 4 years?      What?     John Kerry WINNING in 2004 does NOT send a STATEMENT to the REPUBLICANS :read:  :?:

Am I in the C O R R E C T  "forum board?"    YOU KNOW.........I am a DEMOCRAT!      And, I am proud of it.........no matter who is running!

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHO WINS in 2004.............. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT GEORGE W. BUSH!!!


Get with the program......................Andrew Pauluser posted image

I don't want to start anything, but I don't think that was very nice. Again, there is still much anger regarding the last farce of an election that wasn't an election, and many feel the Democratic Party leadership has not addressed those feelings properly, thus alienating many Americans. Pushing Al Gore out from running again to vindicate what was done to him and this nation four years ago and to fight for justice for those who were disenfranchised, is not something many of us can or will get over. Sure, Kerry "winning" in November would be a victory over the Republicans... However, when you look at it from the standpoint of justice, it is hollow to many of us. Try this analogy... You buy a new Mercedes Benz and park it on the street. The next morning you go outside and discover it has been stolen from you. You call the police who you think will do all in their power to help you recover what was stolen from you. However, they don't care and instead, hand you a skateboard as a substitute for your Mercedes Benz. Would you take it? I suppose if you absolutely had no other choice, you would take it... But it isn't right, because a thief got away with your Mercedes Benz, and you got no justice for what was done to you. I know Gore2008 gets under the skin of some, but the analogy to Andrew Jackson (though not one of my favorite historical figures) is done to illustrate the stealing of an election in 1824 that led to the newly established Democratic Party fighting to bring back the man it happened to. Kerry "standing in" for Gore now ( simply because the DLC sees Al Gore as a loser) is not good enough for those of us who see this as more than anyone from the party will do. For us, this is about justice, but more importantly about our future, and seeing this party fight for the man who was wronged as they did all those years ago. Again, Al Gore is an honorable man, and that is one reason why I admire him so much. However, he has never to this day said the words, "I do not want to run" and I have yet to see the quote. I suspect he gave up so much because this party leadership would not really stand up for him, and that Andrew, is not only despicable, it is a great disservice to this nation and those who would have benefitted greatly from his leadership these past four years.
Jan

FreeBird - August 21, 2004 09:44 PM (GMT)
OK.....Jan :) I apologize for "sounding" in a offensive manner! I am sorry...........I really didn't mean to sound that way. I have said before here that "I believe Al Gore to be the BEST man for the job of President". I just DON'T want to think about 4 YEARS from NOW!!! Geez.........who knows what will be if we have 4 MORE YEARS of George W. Bush?

Hell..........I might be dead cause I can't even get HEALTH CARE!
Hell..........Al Gore might be dead!

Who the heck knows what AMERICA may look like in 2008 :dripple:

4 YEARS IS A LONG TIME and A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN 4 YEARS?

NOTE: If the NEXT 4 YEARS are like MY LAST 4 YEARS THEN.......... :bad:

What's NEXT: LOWER the MINIMUM WAGE TO $4.00 Dollars an hour so we can pay for all the MESS we are in NOW?
OH..........and of course that WOULD NOT affect THE RICH PRICKS who are "living in a lap of luxury" allready?


Peace and Love to EVERYONE here..................Andrew Pauluser posted image

Patriot For Gore - August 21, 2004 09:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (FreeBird @ Aug 21 2004, 05:44 PM)
OK.....Jan :) I apologize for "sounding" in a offensive manner! I have said before that "I believe Al Gore to be the BEST man for the job of President". I just DON'T want to think about 4 YEARS from NOW!!! Geez.........who knows what will be if we have 4 MORE YEARS of George W. Bush?

Hell..........I might be dead cause I can't even get HEALTH CARE!
Hell..........Al Gore might be dead!

Who the heck knows what AMERICA may look like in 2008 :dripple:

4 YEARS IS A LONG TIME and A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN 4 YEARS?


Peace and Love to EVERYONE here..................Andrew Pauluser posted image

But the thing is, Andrew, no one in this thread that feels this way has ever even intimated they wanted four more years of Bush, or that they wouldn't place a vote next to Kerry's name to rid us of Bush, or that they supported Nader or anyone else but Al Gore. I think it is a disservice to Democrats who feel this way to automatically be told, "You want four more years of Bush." It makes no sense to me. People search every day for justice regarding so many other matters ( many of them frivolous), yet when you try to discuss justice for this stolen election that went to the very core of what we are as a Democratic Republic, and even suggest restoring the man the people elected, you are turned off by the very people who claim to support him. Again, I just don't get that, and it is that lack of true fighting spirit that disappoints me. I see where you are coming from, and I hope you can see where I am coming from. This war in Iraq will define the next four years no matter who winds up winning (or stealing) this election. To have two major candidates who practically agree regarding all angles of it, doesn't instill hope in many of us who wanted the next President to have a firm hand in ending it. Al Gore would have been that President, and again, I may place a vote next to Kerry's name but my heart won't be in it and I hope I never have to place a vote like that again.
Jan

FreeBird - August 21, 2004 10:02 PM (GMT)
And I UNDERSTAND perfectly!!! I REALLY DO! My HEART WAS broken when I saw what happened on NBC NEWS (as was Tom Brokall and some others) the nite that the CRAP went down in FLORIDA! NOW, though...........this is serious and almost like a war in itself!

NOTE: The people on NBC were ALMOST crying over this unlike FOX(I am sure)! YOU COULD SEE IT IN THEIR EYES AND BODY LANGUAGE!!!

I'm with ya all the way :) TRUST ME................Andrew Pauluser posted image

Gore2008 - August 22, 2004 06:22 AM (GMT)
Freebird your support for the dem party leadership's blatant disenfranchisement of we the people again in 2004 with it's refusal to support Al Gore is shameful to say the least. If the current dem party leadership was really serious about winning in 2004 and serious about defending the people's right to vote that the Bush election stealers took away in 2000, they would now be supporting Al Gore just like the dem leadership did with Andrew Jackson in the aftermath of the stolen 1824 election. The Andrew Jackson story is a crucial piece of the democratic party's history that everyone needs to know and compare to the current dem party leadership's betrayal of this important history with it's betrayal of Al Gore an more importantly our country. I would urge that everyone remember this important history the next time they see Andrew Jackson's picture on the $20 dollar bill. Furthermore Freebird, by failing to hold the Bush eletion stealers accountable for their theft of the 2000 election, the democratic party has sent a loud and clear message to the election stealing republicans that they can get away with stealing an election and the democratic party won't do anthing to stop them or hold them accountable in any way. I think this is a disgusting message for the leasdership of the democratic party to be sending. This is exactly why democracy in America is dead and will remain so util the democratic party fights back and puts a stop to this blatant election stealing by the republicans. The democratic party has once again been completely AWOL in putting a stop to Jeb Bush's latest efforts to once again steal the 2004 election in Florida. Running Kerry instead of Al Gore in 2004 and acting like nothing happened in 2000 and making no mention of the republicans theft of our democracy in 2000 won't restore democracy in America either. The republicans now know that they can steal an election and get away with it. They're going to keep doing it until the democrats stop them. You're very mistaken if you think all of the votes are going to be counted this November. Every previous generation of americans has fought and died for our democratic form of government. In lite of this fact, your flippant attitude toward the democratic paty leadership's continued disenfranchisement of we the people for 2004 and your shrugging off of crucial democratic party history in the case of Andrew Jackson, is shameful. Our country is suffering terribly and needlessly because of the stolen 2000 election. Installing Kerry an pretending like nothing happened in 2000 won't solve this terrible mess.

ALGOREismylife - August 22, 2004 10:35 PM (GMT)
I hope so, but the thought of four more years of the fraud named Bush, is a terrible thought. Al Gore will always be my President no matter what happens this year. PRESIDENT AL GORE is too damn good for this world. I want AL GORE and no one else. But, yes we must get rid of Bush.

Patriot For Gore - August 23, 2004 12:55 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (FreeBird @ Aug 21 2004, 06:02 PM)
And I UNDERSTAND perfectly!!!    I REALLY DO!      My HEART WAS broken when I saw what happened on NBC NEWS (as was Tom Brokall and some others) the nite that the CRAP went down in FLORIDA!      NOW,     though...........this is serious and almost like a war in itself!

NOTE:      The people on NBC were ALMOST crying over this unlike FOX(I am sure)!     YOU COULD SEE IT IN THEIR EYES AND BODY LANGUAGE!!!

I'm  with ya all the way :)   TRUST ME................Andrew Pauluser posted image

The point is Andrew, that at that point it wasn't enough to just be heartbroken. I have asked this before, and will ask it again: what has to happen in this country before people will get up out of their chairs and take to the streets for this country? I am totally psyched at thinking that close to one million people will converge on NYC next Sunday, and I truly do hope it goes well and the message is relayed loud and clear. We need to keep that up. I really don't think we can count on our representatives on either side in any large numbers to do what will have to be done should Bush steal another election. I don't intend to sit in my chair watching MSNBC feeling heartbroken should that occur. I intend to get up out of it, and get out in the streets and do something to right it.

Do you not think Al Gore might feel just a bit heartbroken himself that he didn't see that mass of people fighting for him that should have been out there? Oh sure, there were people outside the USSC building when it was going on, but after that, nothing. It was treated as if it were just something that meant nothing to our future as a Democratic Republic, people were told to "Get over it" by both sides, and we were SHHHHHed if we dare mention it. That is not how people who live in a truly free Democratic society treat such an act of blatant treason to our country. Again, I look to the future, I will do what I must do in November at the voting booth (such as it is) to rid this White House of the installed Bush, but to think that the millions who voted for Gore would not even come out en masse for him when it truly mattered disappoints me. But then again, our media has been a willing accomplice to covering up the truth about the election as well, so perhaps on a large scale that explains it. But Al Gore didn't have to say he was running for those who support and believe in him to keep supporting him through all of this. His endorsement of Howard Dean was something he felt he had to do, and he kept his word on that. I believe the draft movement should have continued because it was the right thing to do, and whether Kerry wins or loses in November, our PAC will continue to support him for President in 2008.
Jan

deilf - September 7, 2004 08:30 PM (GMT)
I like Al Gore. We all know (we including W) that Gore won the election in 2000. Everything about that outcome, and the deceitful bafoon who stole the presidency, is disgraceful.

Having said that, I would prefer that Governor Dean would run in 2008. But I would expect, as in I'd bet the farm, that should Kerry lose, the nomination in 2008 is Senator Edwards' to lose. Maybe with some help from Senator Clinton.

We Dean supporters share many similar experiences and feelings with you. But among them is the fact that we are out of this race, and Kerry Edwards is in. It is critical that they win in November, and that they take the Congress with them.

I can and will talk to you about the need to reform our primary process. It is ludricrous that both spots on our national ticket were selected by a few voters in one farm state. But that needs to wait. Bush must be brought down this year. Let's not spare any effort in making that happen.

Thanks.

ALGOREismylife - September 7, 2004 09:15 PM (GMT)
If Bush rigs this election in 2004 and it scares me to think it might happen. If we still have a world in 2008, it has to be AL GORE or no one. There is no one more qualified to be President than AL GORE. The rigged election of 2000 still makes me sick and always will.

earthmother - September 8, 2004 04:11 PM (GMT)
I agree with you 100%, AlGOREismylife. Al Gore should be President now, and, if Kerry loses, he should be President in 2008. I'm just afraid, if it comes to pass that Kerry loses this race, that 2008 isn't going to be a friendly playing field for Gore. He'll have stiff competition then from John Edwards, who isn't going away--make no mistake about that--and also from Hillary. I'm sure a bunch of others will flood the field as well. But Gore will at least have the upper hand as far as having been the Democrat to receive the most votes ever in a pres. election as well as the second most votes of any candidate ever in a pres. election. He also, as we all know, WON the election of 2000. I think it'll also help him that people will remember their anger about what happened in 2000. I think that anger will be stronger and better channeled by Gore actually running and being able to vote for him than Kerry running this year. But on the downside, Gore will be that much older. He won't have been in politics for eight years. He'll be fighting the usual spin machine, which did a real number on him four years ago. And he may be viewed by many as a washed-up has-been. We here will never think of him that way, but I'm sure there are many who will. Even in my phone calling for the write-in effort last year, I encountered a lot of people who said, "Gore? Why would I want him to run again?" :(

We'll just have to wait and see.

JamesAquila - September 10, 2004 04:27 AM (GMT)
I don't know if you can count on Edwards in 2008. It is very rare that a party nominates someone that was part of a losing ticket from 4 years before. The last time that happened was Mondale in '84 and we all know how that turned out. Plus Edwards is giving up his Senate seat. That gives him no political base from which to run on.
As far as Hillary, I'm sure that there will be many in the party who will want her to run. But I don't think it is a given that she will. She's never made any statements that indicate that she would. Also, if she has a rough re-election in 2006 she may have to pledge not to run in 2008.
The leading contenders for 2008 are most likely will be Dean, Joe Biden, Bill Richardson and maybe Tom Dashle. There also might be an up and coming Congressman or Governor that might run.
In regard to Gore, there is no guarantee that he will run. The fact that he gave away his remaining campaign fund indicates that he won't. But of course, no one in 1964 would have thought that Richard Nixon would come back in 1968 to win the White House, so who knows.

earthmother - September 10, 2004 01:43 PM (GMT)
I was under the impression that Gore was required to give back the campaign funds at this point if he wasn't running in this election. Could be mistaken about that, though. But if it is true, then it says nothing about whether he plans to run in 2008 or beyond.

As for Edwards, I get your point, but he's so popular with so many people that I figured he wouldn't be going away. Hillary, who knows.

I think what Gore does or doesn't do is going to depend on so many factors, there's just no way for us to guess. But it's hard for me to believe that he doesn't want to try again.

Gore2008 - September 10, 2004 02:26 PM (GMT)
For starters, there's no comparison between Al Gore and Dean. Dean's accomplishments pale in comparison to Al Gore's. I agree with James about Hilary. I also think that should the Kerry/Edwards ticket lose that the repug impersonating, sweep the theft of our democracy in 2000 under the rug dem party leadership will also be finished. The grassroots will want someone who'll fight back as they did for 2004. The person in the best position to do that and to say "I told you so" will be Al Gore.

JamesAquila - September 10, 2004 03:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (earthmother @ Sep 10 2004, 09:43 AM)
I was under the impression that Gore was required to give back the campaign funds at this point if he wasn't running in this election. Could be mistaken about that, though. But if it is true, then it says nothing about whether he plans to run in 2008 or beyond.

If he was required then it's good news. But if he wasn't, why would he give away millions that he would need for a run in 2008? He'll just have to go and raise that money again. That fund would have given him a leg up on any possible contenders in 2008.

earthmother - September 10, 2004 03:17 PM (GMT)
Yeah, that money would've come in very handy if he decides to run again. But I think, once again, that we have to take him at his word. He said he doesn't expect to run again. I'm convinced he's not playing games with himself or us when he says that. And if he really doesn't expect to run again, then it would make sense to get rid of the money now, since it isn't his to keep. I'm sure there are rules about the money that make it so keeping it isn't a good thing if you're not using it soon. I also know that keeping that money was fueling speculation that he'd be running again, and maybe he wanted to be sure he didn't give people false hope. But if he does run again, and god, I hope he does, I don't think he'll have trouble raising money. Look at how successful Kerry's been. I think Gore will have lots of support, especially after another four years of Bush, if that's what happens. AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Gore2008 - September 11, 2004 02:40 PM (GMT)
The money that Al Gore gave to the DNC, Florida and Tennessee democratic parties was from the GELAC fund. This money is used only to pay to make sure that the Gore 2000 campaign was in compliance with federal campaign laws. The restrictions on the use of this money are huge. The chances that Al Gore could've used this money to fund a 2008 campaign are slim to none.




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